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If you have not seen it yet, I really think you should give it a try - Titans (DC).

 

I started looking with no high expectations at all, but first episode got me hooked. This is like Daredevil/Punisher tv-series, but the first hero we meet is Dick Grayson.

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If you have not seen it yet, I really think you should give it a try - Titans (DC).

 

I started looking with no high expectations at all, but first episode got me hooked. This is like Daredevil/Punisher tv-series, but the first hero we meet is Dick Grayson.

 

Something good from DC? I am surprised. :blink:

 


 

Inhave watvhed totday nearly completely Sex Education on Netflix. Damn autoplay. No, not a how to cohabitate, but a series about the teenage son of a sex therapist and his woes navigating growing up. Getting into a cyrano de bergerac situation etc. Also he starts a business at his secondary school giving sex advice in the abandoned asbestos ridden outhouse. Still being a virgin. Of course he is all kinds of damaged by his divorced sex therapist parents. Did I mention his mother is played by Gillian Anderson?

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Guessing Titans. It has 8,3 on Imdb at the moment.

Though I can't say yet if it really is *that* good, or if people are so relieved that something good is coming out of DC(Netflix).

 

I remember growing up, and Batman (and Superman) did not kill people. As far as I can tell, those DC-days are over.

"Fuck Batman." :)

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If you have not seen it yet, I really think you should give it a try - Titans (DC).

I started looking with no high expectations at all, but first episode got me hooked. This is like Daredevil/Punisher tv-series, but the first hero we meet is Dick Grayson.

*thumbsup"* They are no strangers to killing and maiming and they are the good guys, relative to the others. If you come from stuff like Daredevil, it's refreshingly violent.

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If you have not seen it yet, I really think you should give it a try - Titans (DC).

I started looking with no high expectations at all, but first episode got me hooked. This is like Daredevil/Punisher tv-series, but the first hero we meet is Dick Grayson.

*thumbsup"* They are no strangers to killing and maiming and they are the good guys, relative to the others. If you come from stuff like Daredevil, it's refreshingly violent.

 

 

IIRC, there's no way to know if Batman (original comics) killed or not. You see him beating the crap out of people, but none of the usual moralizing. So its possible he passed his red test.

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Has anybody watched Star Trek Discovery yet? I just finished binge watching series 1 on Netflix and found it surprisingly good.

 

I dropped out after the first couple episodes. It had too many worn out tropes, the captain keeping secrets from the rest of the crew, that weird mushroom drive? I did not like it. Huuh all so dark and edgy and cameras are never straight.

 

 

I prefer the more positive outlook of The Orville.

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Batman isn't a central character in this show. The Dick is and he and his replacement are pretty badass violent. So is everyone else. Killing inculcated.

I am a bit more than mid-way through Titans as of now and find it generally a solid show. It's really the Netflix Marvel filter applied to DC. I very much like how they are not afraid to pull in other DC characters and basing episodes around them (the Marvel shows utilize a few cameos by other characters, but kept it fairly minimal). I very much enjoyed seeing The Doom Patrol appear out of the blue (Grant Morrison's run on Doom Patrol was some of the most fun and absurd comic books I have ever encountered, so those characters have a special resonance with me).

 

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Has anybody watched Star Trek Discovery yet? I just finished binge watching series 1 on Netflix and found it surprisingly good.

 

I dropped out after the first couple episodes. It had too many worn out tropes, the captain keeping secrets from the rest of the crew, that weird mushroom drive? I did not like it. Huuh all so dark and edgy and cameras are never straight.

 

 

I prefer the more positive outlook of The Orville.

 

 

 

Yeah, they tried to make it all dark and edgy. It's not worth keeping it spoiler-free, they had a captain from a mirror universe command the ship to defeat the Klingons. And she's, like, "let's nuke them and salt the earth" type dark, and "i wanna have a threesome with that alien male and female" to make her really edgy. :rolleyes:

 

Basically they tried being like The Expanse but failed spectacularly.

 

It's a stupid stupid show and should not have been made. Awful. Destroys the entire Star Trek franchise IMO.

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You forgot the greek name and well looking chinese because Michelle Yeoh. For bonus diversity. (isn't she from Malaysia like Simon?) I heard somewhere that she is to play in a spin-off.

 

 

Another take on STD I read was to ignore that it was named Star Trek and compared it to Farscape. ERhm well no. -farscape touched on some pretty dark themes, but had a tongue in cheek tone while doing so.

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Has anybody watched Star Trek Discovery yet? I just finished binge watching series 1 on Netflix and found it surprisingly good.

 

Awful. Stupid and awful.

 

 

Well then.

 

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I'll grant you, there was no need for the Klingons to look like Uruk Hai and the mushroom drive was... different. Who doesn't like an alien threesome though?

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The third season of "Babylon Berlin" is currently filming, said to be based largely upon the second book of Volker Kutscher's Gereon Rath series - "The Silent Death", about a string of murders of actresses against the background of the change from silent to talking movies. I say largely because after binge-reading the books since Christmas, I realized that the plot overload of the first two seasons first noted by Harold stems from the makers cramming in elements from all of the books, not just the initial "The Wet Fish"; I think they were afraid they would get only those two seasons of the costly production, and stole everything they could.

 

Additionally, they overdramatized the backgrounds of the characters quite a bit to get the lush depiction and social commentary on late Weimar conditions spread out over all the series. Spoilers follow.

 

You have been warned.

 

This means you.

 

Yes, you with the innocent look on your face.

 

Whatever.

 

In the TV series, Gereon Rath is a traumatized WW I veteran, fighting his shakes with morphine after having abandoned his older brother to the enemy at the front, the likely ulterior motive being that he is in love with the latter's wife, and her son might be his. Of course at the end of Season 2, it turns out that Berlin crime lord "Dr. M." is actually that brother, who survived with a disfigured face. In the books, Gereon was drafted at the end of the war, but never sent to the frontline anymore; his brother died early in the war already, and it is mentioned his mother only believed it when she saw the body, so there is no doubt about his fate.

 

There is also a middle brother who went to the US before the war, and is dead to his parents because he didn't return to die for the fatherland like a proper German; Gereon sought him out after the war, and they regularly write each other, the brother sending jazz records which Gereon likes. There is no adulterous relationship like in the series. Back home in Cologne, Gereon was engaged, but his fiancée dropped him like a hot potato after he killed a spree shooter who happened to be the son of a local media tycoon in what may have been excessive use of force.

 

He was sent to Berlin to escape the following media campaign against him, not to fix a porn blackmail attempt supposedly directed at Cologne mayor Konrad Adenauer. That blackmail plot is actually from the second book, and not over compromising sex pictures. Neither is Gereon a drug addict, though he compromises himself by doing some cocaine in the first book, and later develops a bit of a drinking habit. The whole trope of traumatized, disfigured and left-for-dead war veterans is an element from the fifth book, "The Fallen of March".

 

As for Charlotte Ritter, in the TV series she lives in period-typical Berlin underclass backyard squalor with her family, including a mother dieing from syphillis, hiring herself out for day-to-day stenotypist work at police HQ by day, and as a prostitute in the dungeons of the "Moka Efti" club by night. In the books, she is a regularly-employed stenotypist with the homicide division, studying law to become a police officer herself; she is sharing a flat with her friend Greta, who also isn't the poor hard-done-by girl from the series, but the well-to-do daughter of a German engineer and a Swedish actress.

 

Charly's mother moved back to her hometown in the East after her husband died, and later turns out to be a Nazi sympathizer her daughter would probably have been glad to see die before she messed up her wedding with politics. The "Moka Efti" is mentioned just a single time in the books, Charly having danced there when she got called out to a murder scene in the first book. It's certainly not part of Dr. M.'s crime empire. The whole street-wise rogue girl thing is probably informed by Charly's later tendency to take on and take in petty criminal minors from Berlin's streets.

 

The Black Reichswehr coup attempt plot is a premature take on the fourth book, "The Fatherland File", which is set against the background of the 1932 "Prussian Coup" in which the Reich government under Chancellor Franz von Papen deposed the State of Prussia's minority government to further their aims of a centralized authoritarian German government - a step crucially enabling later takeover by the Nazis.This entailed replacement of Berlin Police leadership, including Jewish vice commissioner Bernhard Weiß; unlike his stand-in named August Benda in the series, he didn't die in a bomb plot, but did in fact escape the Nazis. And so on; I hope they will not overload future seasons the same way, having already fleeced the books for all they're worth.

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I read the first Babylon Berlin with an open mind, and it really was a good piece of work. It kind of reminded me of Martin Cruz Smith's Gorky Park actually.

 

Ive yet to see the TV series, but I note from wiki they included elements like the lead actress, whilst working as a police stenographer was also doing overtime as a prostitute. Which is completely contrary to the character as in the book whom is morally principled yet not strait laced. Ill probably watch it regardless, but if they have taken that far leave of the books, im not quite sure if its going to be worth the effort.

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I read the first Babylon Berlin with an open mind, and it really was a good piece of work. It kind of reminded me of Martin Cruz Smith's Gorky Park actually.

 

Ive yet to see the TV series, but I note from wiki they included elements like the lead actress, whilst working as a police stenographer was also doing overtime as a prostitute. Which is completely contrary to the character as in the book whom is morally principled yet not strait laced. Ill probably watch it regardless, but if they have taken that far leave of the books, im not quite sure if its going to be worth the effort.

I watched a few episodes, but it seemed over crowded with things happeneing to me. As Banshee1 has pointed out, it took a lot from all across the books and crammed it into the first season. I don't know if I am going back to it.

 

 


 

Punisher. S2, E1.

Frank dials bar-fights up to 12.

Starts off right after S1 ending, and delivers. :)

Have seen the first few episodes so far. I think there is a gap of several months between the seasons,

 

 

 

especially as Jigsaw seems to recover. For certain values of recover in his case

 

Damsel in distress plot in the beginning wiht the bar fight to draw the punisher in. Culminating in a classic wild west siege of the sheriff's building by whom? some crazy church congregation? although the leader seems to have faded/removed nazi tattoos? And what has the girl done that they want her?

 

after the shootout The Punisher goes back to New York. Obviously to meet Jigsaw. And the congregation is left behind by the writers? So far it has the potential to stumble and get entangled in loose ends. But let's see how the writers put that together and resolve it.

 

 

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