shep854 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Except for the perennial blame game, the '18 midterms are over; looking ahead...Ranging shot--OUT: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Huh, I guess the Democrats have over played their hand with the unions. Edited November 23, 2018 by rmgill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzermann Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Isn't a "Demolition Derby" one of the favourite pasttimes of those "deplorables"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 Isn't a "Demolition Derby" one of the favourite pasttimes of those "deplorables"?This one could well be an All Comers party. The Dems are doing a fair job of own-goaling themselves. Moderates won elections, but the wack-left is pulling hard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzermann Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Isn't a "Demolition Derby" one of the favourite pasttimes of those "deplorables"?This one could well be an All Comers party. The Dems are doing a fair job of own-goaling themselves. Moderates won elections, but the wack-left is pulling hard... yes it very much looks like it. Instead of strategically dumping Clinton after the election and looking for a candidate that could pull people in like Sanders did in his primaries run. But that would have been reasonable and strategically sound. Instead they are still looking for russian phantoms and double down. Really Trumps reelection campaign only needs a few ISO connexes full of fresh MAGA hats to give away and the rest does the Dem campaign for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 I have no doubt there will be plenty of antics on the right as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzermann Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I have no doubt there will be plenty of antics on the right as well. Which will only help Trump as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The electoral map is changing right now. Ohio is now a red state instead of purple. Colorado is now blue. If Beto runs and wins the primary he'll make Texas a battleground state in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim the Tank Nut Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 After HRC kneecaps Beto he'll be lucky if he gets a Cabinet Post above ground... He isn't winning the Primary, she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) HRC needs to watch Kamala Harris. She has a lot of the right boxes checked... On the Right, I heard a whisper about Flake trying to pull the Never-Trumpers together. Edited November 24, 2018 by shep854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 After HRC kneecaps Beto he'll be lucky if he gets a Cabinet Post above ground... He isn't winning the Primary, she is. It is definitely possible she will attempt to run, but there's no way she'd win a primary. She barely scraped it out when it was Bernie. No one would vote for her now. She was only popular with women over 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Muh Russian bots... This was on my Crackbook feed ​ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzermann Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Muh Russian bots... This was on my Crackbook feed ​ I would actually like to see the survey questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Muh Russian bots... This was on my Crackbook feed ​I would actually like to see the survey questions. And maybe get registered to vote D... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 ​ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Technically speaking, she already beat him in the popular vote by a couple percentage points, so it would hardly be surprising if she could beat him now. The midterms point to centerists and moderates running to the exists. That said I don't know of a single democrat leaning voter who go with her in a primary. Or Pelosi as House Speaker for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 The loss of Ohio to the Republicans IS likely seen as a major problem for the Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 That said I don't know of a single democrat leaning voter who go with her in a primary. Or Pelosi as House Speaker for that matter. A little thing like a primary voters didn't stand in her way last time, just ask Bernie. You will vote for who the party tells you to vote for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 The loss of Ohio to the Republicans IS likely seen as a major problem for the Democrats. It is non trivial for the Dems if that is a permanent change the electoral map. But in 2020 it seems the fact that Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania swung away from the GOP in their elections is more immediate problem for the GOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim the Tank Nut Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 well Speaker Pelosi is comingWe certainly do live in interesting times.The 97.8% media tilt against the President and his party is definitely having an effect.I couldn't help but notice GM's announcement about the "D" return to power... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Unfortunately Pelosi will be speaker. I had hoped she would be prevented from returning to that role, but she seems to have deftly bought off her opposition and there isn't a clear successor for anyone to rally around. That will cost the Dems in future elections. GMs announcement probably has little to do with Dems taking the house and everything to do with their sales slumping, particularly for non SUV vehicles. Ford made similar cuts well before the election I believe; certainly they were expected going back to September. Most companies don't react to one party or the other winning an election until that change actually tangibly affects their business (which in the case of major corporation rarely happens). As for the 97.8 percent of the media, Fox News I believe still has the highest viewership, so I suspect the conservative media voice is a little larger than 2.3%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingCanOpener Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Spent this Thanksgiving at my uncle-in-law's in Chicago, and his father was there, a former CIA field analyst and current behind-the-scenes bigwig for the Montana Democratic Party. He's a Bernie bot (He stands firmly in the general Social Democrat side of European parties) and we had a really interesting conversation about government, Trump, and the Democratic party. He was bemoaning the shifts to the extremes for both parties, and how the Democrats don't have party discipline like the GOP, as seen in the attempted coup of Pelosi last week. He doesn't like how the Democrats appeal to their interest groups and in Montana, he's always pushed for more grassroots/broad-based support for issues because as he sees it, it's the only real way to get things done. We also talked about why people vote for certain candidates, and he bemoaned how people vote for speaking skills over ability to govern. I brought up Obama and he laughed and said that he was just the DNC's Trump--good for a soundbite for the base or a feel-good legislation that looked like he did something, but in the end he wasn't very good at leading or governing. He also said how he didn't like how Obama was campaigning for candidates because he thinks that ex-Presidents should hide on a ranch out West and write memoirs until they die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toysoldier Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Oh yeah, that brings back images of Obama wearing a Stetson hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Interesting, the concepts of party discipline; I would not have called the Republicans disciplined, given the bitterness of the last two years. Maybe they were just able to keep it to a less-critical time, like before the mid-terms got serious, when they were not quite as UN-disciplined as the Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Trump basically overshadowed the RNC. Ryan in particualr is weak sauce. Mitch actually benefitted greatly from the Kavanaugh battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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