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Apparently a bunch of Vatican higher ups are not happy with el papa, and his comments on gay marriage.  Then he is appointing a bunch of liberals as cardinals including that idiot from DC- Wilton who hates Trump.  

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Nothingburger.

Here is a clarification (in Spanish).

Basically, being homosexual is no reason for a family to stop loving a member, like a son or a daughter. That does not mean that two homosexual people living together have the right to adopt a kid, nor does mean that there is such a thing as "homosexual marriage", but marriage is always between man and woman.

 

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35 minutes ago, sunday said:

Nothingburger.

Here is a clarification (in Spanish).

Basically, being homosexual is no reason for a family to stop loving a member, like a son or a daughter. That does not mean that two homosexual people living together have the right to adopt a kid, nor does mean that there is such a thing as "homosexual marriage", but marriage is always between man and woma.

 

Thanks.

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Pope Francis Declares That The Catholic Church Will No Longer Accept Donations Earned Via Capitalism

Pope Francis. "Keep your money earned by oppressing workers and minorities. Only money earned via equitable redistribution of wealth, in model Christian countries like China and North Korea, will be acceptable to the Lord's Church."

 

 

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His Holiness has replied to a report issued this week on a former Cardinal who was molesting kids that he's going to crack down on clerical pedophilia for real this time.  No kidding.  He really means it.

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50 minutes ago, R011 said:

His Holiness has replied to a report issued this week on a former Cardinal who was molesting kids that he's going to crack down on clerical pedophilia for real this time.  No kidding.  He really means it.

 

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13 hours ago, R011 said:

His Holiness has replied to a report issued this week on a former Cardinal who was molesting kids that he's going to crack down on clerical pedophilia for real this time.  No kidding.  He really means it.

I noticed he dumped as much blame as he could on JPII while doing the "I just kept his person in place" dance. Is there anything Godly in this man?

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JPII and his predecessors should have addressed the issue, but it wasn't nearly as much a controversy then as after and they had other issues to deal with.

Benedict tried, but he was too old to  overcome internal resistance.  No wonder he retired.  Francis backed off from Benedict's attempts, and has been foolishly weak ever since.

 

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The Nazis killed a lot of priests for "meddling in politics", according to them. The Communist Party of China is also persecuting Catholics for not wanting to being part of their puppet "Patriotic Church", also for "meddling in politics". Vigano is practically in the same situation because of Vatican politics.

Please, R011, do not justify any martyr-making butchers.

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There's a bit of a difference between martyrdom at the hands of a repressive government and OrangeManBad, Global Warming, Liberation Theology, even Free Market conservatism.

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On 11/13/2020 at 2:27 PM, R011 said:

It's nice when churchmen agree with me.  I still think they should stick to spiritual matters and leave politics alone.

Politics is all about power and who has it.  Simple concept: so why should not churchmen, and women, get involved in one way or another when one group, large or small, has an imbalance in power over another group?

Or are you also saying that those of faith should never vote?  People of faith voting is a form of expressing political will?

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Just now, DougRichards said:

Politics is all about power and who has it.  Simple concept: so why should not churchmen, and women, get involved in one way or another when one group, large or small, has an imbalance in power over another group?

Or are you also saying that those of faith should never vote?  People of faith voting is a form of expressing political will?

I've no problem with individuals, even senior church officials, expressing opinions as private individuals.  It's when they use their religious office to endorse a non-religious position that I disagree. That fellow who said something about rendering unto Caesar that which is Caesar's had a good point.

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