bojan 0 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 1981/1987/90. 120mm UBM-52 Mortar Battery / Infantry Regiment1987. replaced SAR with AR1990. added 2 x laser range finder in the Recoinasance section and MG gunners have no pistols Bty HQ - 5 men - 4 x AR, 1 x P- Bty Cmd - AR- Bty 2inC - AR- PO - AR- Bty Jr Officer - AR- Medic - P Command Platoon - 22 men - 6 x AR, 16 x SAR, 1 x 5t truck, 1 x 1.5t truck- Plt Cmd - AR- Driver - SAR, 5t truck Reconnaissance Section - 5 men - 3 x AR, 2 x SAR- Section leader - AR- Scout x 2 - AR- Rangefinder x 2 - SAR Signal Section - 10 men - 1 x AR, 9 x SAR- Section leader - AR- Radioman x 5 - SAR- Telephone operator x 4 Plotting Section - 5 men - 1 x AR, 4 x SAR, 1 x 1.5t truck- Section leader/Main battery plotter - AR- Plotter x 3 - SAR- Driver - SAR, 1.5t truck 120mm Mortar Platoon x 2 - 22 men - 3 x 120mm UBM-52 mortar, 3 x MG, 3 x P (absent in F-90), 4 x AR, 15 x SAR, 3 x 1.5t truck- Plt Cmd - AR 120mm Mortar Section x 3 - 7 men - 1 x MG, 1 x AR, 5 x SAR- Section leader - AR- Gunner - SAR- Loader - SAR- Fuse setter - SAR- Ammo bearer 1 - SAR- Ammo bearer 2 - MG- Driver - SAR Total - 71 ( 5 + 22 + 2 x 22 ) men - 6 x 120mm UBM-52 mortar, 6 x MG, 18/64/64 x AR, 46/0/0 x SAR, 7/7/1 x P, 1 x 5t truck, 7 x 1.5t truck In theory Infantry regiment had 3 x Infanry Bn and 3 x 120mm Mortar Bty, in practice Infantry regiments were all R type formations (being replaced by brigades in the A and B qualification units) and had 2 x Infantry Bn and 2 x 120mm Mortar Bty. Edited September 22, 2019 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites

Nikolas93TS 0 Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 And what is with M-74 and M-75 mortars? Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) M75 went to Infantry, Motorized, Mechanized and Armored Bns*. M75 went to the Light/Partisan, Hill and Mountain units to a Brigade level artillery groups. M74 went to TO and some light units (through formations note just M75, but I know for sure that M74 was also widely issued).Infantry regiment kept UBM-52 and so did IIRC Infantry, motorized, mechanized and armored brigade as the greater weight was not relevant there and it enabled higher rate of fire than M74/75. Change to M75 there only started in F-90.Strictly formally, M74 was made for Bn level, M75 to supplement/replace UBM-52 in units where weight was critical at a Bde level, but as always this was never really fully followed. Only thing certain is that there was never UBM-52 at a Bn level. *In Infantry and Motorized Bns 120mm mortar was formally under infantry branch (since 1983. when it was introduced to Infantry/Motorized Bns a Bn level). In Mechanized and Armored Bns that change occurred in 1987 (before that designation was 120mm Mortar Battery, after that 120mm Mortar Company). At Bde level both M74/75 and UBM-52 were under artillery branch. Edited September 21, 2019 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 1977/1985/1987/1990. 120mm M75 Mortar Battery, Light Partisan Brigade1985. only changed model of horse cart from old M46A to a new M841987. mortar gunners got AR instead of SAR1990. replaced all SAR with AR Bty HQ - 4 men - 3 x AR, 1 x P, 1 x Riding Horse (RH)- Bty Cmd - AR, RH- Bty 2inC/PO - AR- Bty Jr Officer - AR- Medic - P Command Platoon - 22 men - 6 x AR, 16 x SAR, 1 x Tractor/trailer (T/T)- Plt Cmd - AR Recoinasance Section - 5 men - 3 x AR, 2 x SAR- Section leader - AR- Scout x 2 - AR- Rangefinder x 2 - SAR Signal Section - 12 men - 1 x AR, 11 x SAR, 1 x T/T- Section leader - AR- Radiomen x 4 - SAR- Telephone operator x 6 - SAR- Driver - SAR, T/T Plotting Section - 4 men - 1 x AR, 3 x SAR- Section leader/Main Bty Plotter - AR- Plotter x 3 - SAR 1st 120mm Mortar Platoon - 20 men - 3 x 120mm M75 mortar, 1 x ATW, 2 x SAW, 4 x AR, 13 x SAR, 1 x P, 1 x T/T, 6 x H/C- Plt Cmd - AR- Driver - SAR, T/T 1st and 3rd 120mm Mortar Section - 6 men - 1 x 120mm M75 mortar, 1 x SAW, 1 x AR, 4 x SAR, 2 x Horse/cart (H/C)- Section leader - AR- Gunner - SAR- Crewmen x 4 - 1 x SAW, 3 x SAR, 2 x H/C - two crewmen are also a horse handlers 2nd 120mm Mortar Section - 6 men - 1 x 120mm M75 mortar, 1 x ATW, 1 x AR, 4 x SAR, 1 x P, 2 x Horse/cart (H/C)- Section leader - AR- Gunner - SAR- Crewmen x 4 - 1 x ATW, 3 x SAR, 1 x P, 2 x H/C - two crewmen are also a horse handlers 2nd 120mm Mortar Platoon - 20 men - 3 x 120mm M75 mortar, 2 x ATW, 1 x SAW, 4 x AR, 13 x SAR, 2 x P, 1 x T/T, 6 x H/C- Plt Cmd - AR- Driver - SAR, T/T 1st and 3rd 120mm Mortar Section - 6 men - 1 x 120mm M75 mortar, 1 x ATW, 1 x AR, 4 x SAR, 1 x P, 2 x Horse/cart (H/C)- Section leader - AR- Gunner - SAR- Crewmen x 4 - 1 x ATW, 3 x SAR, 1 x P, 2 x H/C - two crewmen are also a horse handlers 2nd 120mm Mortar Section - 6 men - 1 x 120mm M75 mortar, 1 x SAW, 1 x AR, 4 x SAR, 2 x Horse/cart (H/C)- Section leader - AR- Gunner - SAR- Crewmen x 4 - 1 x SAW, 3 x SAR, 2 x H/C - two crewmen are also a horse handlers Total - 66 ( 4 + 22 + 2 x 20 ) men - 6 x 120mm M75 mortar, 3 x ATW, 3 x SAW, 17/23/59 x AR, 42/36/0 x SAR, 4 x P, 3 x T/T, 12 x H/C Lighter than both 120mm M75 Mortar Bty from the Infantry Bn and 120mm UBM-52 battery Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 1954. 76mm M48B1 Artillery Battery, Infantry Regiment:*Instead of 76mm M48B1, 76mm M-1-4/50 (A) or 76mm M36/48(n) can be substituted Battery HQ - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 1 x R, 1 x PBty Cmd Section - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 1 x R, 1 x P- Bty Cmd - SMG- Bty 2inC - SMG- Bty Jr Officer - SMG- Medic - P- Driver - R, 1/4t light vehicle Command Plt - 28 men - 2 x ATW, 2 x MG, 11 x SMG, 15 x R (1/RG attachment), 2 x P, 1 x 2.5t truck, 1 x 1/4t light vehicle- Plt Cmd - SMG- Driver - R, 2.5t truck Reconnaissance and observation section - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 2 x R- Section leader - SMG- Observer x 2 - SMG- Rangefinder x 2 - R Signal Section - 6 men - 1 x SMG, 5 x R- Section leader - SMG- Radioman x 2 - R- Telephone operator x 2 - R- Driver - R, 1/4t light vehicle Plotting Section - 4 men - 1 x SMG, 3 x R- Section leader - SMG - also a main Bty plotter- Plotter x 3 - R Security Section - 11 men - 2 x ATW, 2 x MG, 5 x SMG, 4 x R (1/RG attachment), 2 x P- Section leader - SMG- MG gunner x 2 - MG, P- Assistant x 2 - R (1 x RG attachment)- Ammo bearer x 2 - SMG- AT Gunner - ATW, R- Assistant x 2 - SMG 76mm M48B1 Artillery Platoon x 2 - 19 men - 2 x 76mm gun, 7 x SMG, 12 x R (2/RG attachment), 1 x 2.5t truck, 2 x 1.5t truckPlt Cmd Section - 3 men - 1 x SMG, 2 x R- Plt Cmd - SMG- Radioman - R- Driver - R, 2.5t truck 76mm Gun Section - 8 men - 3 x SMG, 5 x R (1/RG attachment)- Section leader - SMG- Gunner - R- Assistant gunner - R- Loader - R- Fuse setter - R/RG attachment- Ammo handler x 2 - SMG- Driver - R, 1.5t truck Total - 71 ( 5 + 28 + 2 x 19 ) men - 4 x 76mm M48B1 light gun, 2 x ATW, 2 x MG, 28 x SMG, 40 x R (5/RG attachment), 3 x P, 4 x 1.5t truck, 3 x 2.5t truck, 2 x 1/4t light vehicleInstead of 1.5t truck, 3/4t vehicles can be used to tow 76mm gun but they can not carry full load of ammo (80 rounds) 1964. 76mm M48B1 Artillery Battery, Infantry Regiment:*Instead of 76mm M48B1, 76mm M-1-4/50 (A) or 76mm M36/48(n) can be substituted Battery HQ - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 1 x R, 1 x PBty Cmd Section - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 1 x R, 1 x P- Bty Cmd - SMG- Bty 2inC - SMG- Bty Jr Officer - SMG- Medic - P- Driver - R, 1/4t light vehicle Command Plt - 28 men - 2 x ATW, 2 x MG, 11 x SMG, 15 x R (1/RG attachment), 2 x P, 1 x 2.5t truck, 1 x 1/4t light vehicle- Plt Cmd - SMG- Driver - R, 2.5t truck Reconnaissance and observation section - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 2 x R- Section leader - SMG- Observer x 2 - SMG- Rangefinder x 2 - R Signal Section - 6 men - 1 x SMG, 5 x R- Section leader - SMG- Radioman x 2 - R- Telephone operator x 2 - R- Driver - R, 1/4t light vehicle Plotting Section - 4 men - 1 x SMG, 3 x R- Section leader - SMG - also a main Bty plotter- Plotter x 3 - R Security Section - 11 men - 2 x ATW, 2 x MG, 5 x SMG, 4 x R (1/RG attachment), 2 x P- Section leader - SMG- MG gunner x 2 - MG, P- Assistant x 2 - R (1 x RG attachment)- Ammo bearer x 2 - SMG- AT Gunner - ATW, R- Assistant x 2 - SMG 76mm M48B1 Artillery Platoon x 2 - 27 men - 3 x 76mm gun, 10 x SMG, 17 x R (3/RG attachment), 1 x 2.5t truck, 3 x 1.5t truckPlt Cmd Section - 3 men - 1 x SMG, 2 x R- Plt Cmd - SMG- Radioman - R- Driver - R, 2.5t truck 76mm Gun Section - 8 men - 3 x SMG, 5 x R (1/RG attachment)- Section leader - SMG- Gunner - R- Assistant gunner - R- Loader - R- Fuse setter - R/RG attachment- Ammo handler x 2 - SMG- Driver - R, 1.5t truck Total - 87 ( 5 + 28 + 2 x 27 ) men - 6 x 76mm M48B1 light gun, 2 x ATW, 2 x MG, 34 x SMG, 49 x R (7/RG attachment), 3 x P, 6 x 1.5t truck, 3 x 2.5t truck, 2 x 1/4t light vehicleInstead of 1.5t truck, 3/4t vehicles can be used to tow 76mm light gun, but they can not carry full load of ammo (80 rounds) 1958. 76mm M48B1 Artillery Battery, Infantry Brigade: Battery HQ - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 1 x R, 1 x PBty Cmd Section - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 1 x R, 1 x P- Bty Cmd - SMG- Bty 2inC - SMG- Bty Jr Officer - SMG- Medic - P- Driver - R, 1/4t light vehicle Command Plt - 42 men - 4 x ATW, 4 x MG, 16 x SMG, 22 x R (2/RG attachment), 4 x P, 2 x 2.5t truck- Plt Cmd - SMG- Driver x 2 - R, 2.5t truck - one truck loads both Security Sections, other loads rest of the Command Plt. Reconnaissance and observation section - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 2 x R- Section leader - SMG- Observer x 2 - SMG- Rangefinder x 2 - R Signal Section - 8 men - 1 x SMG, 7 x R- Section leader - SMG- Radioman x 3 - R- Telephone operator x 4 - R Plotting Section - 4 men - 1 x SMG, 3 x R- Section leader - SMG - also a main Bty plotter- Plotter x 3 - R Security Section x 2 - 11 men - 2 x ATW, 2 x MG, 5 x SMG, 4 x R (1/RG attachment), 2 x P- Section leader - SMG- MG gunner x 2 - MG, P- Assistant x 2 - R (1 x RG attachment)- Ammo bearer x 2 - SMG- AT Gunner - ATW, R- Assistant x 2 - SMG 76mm M48B1 Artillery Platoon x 3 - 27 men - 3 x 76mm gun, 10 x SMG, 17 x R (3/RG attachment), 1 x 2.5t truck, 3 x 1.5t truckPlt Cmd Section - 3 men - 1 x SMG, 2 x R- Plt Cmd - SMG- Radioman - R- Driver - R, 2.5t truck 76mm Gun Section - 8 men - 3 x SMG, 5 x R (1/RG attachment)- Section leader - SMG- Gunner - R- Assistant gunner - R- Loader - R- Fuse setter - R/RG attachment- Ammo handler x 2 - SMG- Driver - R, 1.5t truck Total - 128 ( 5 + 42 + 3 x 27 ) men - 9 x 76mm M48B1 light gun, 4 x ATW, 4 x MG, 49 x SMG, 74 x R (11/RG attachment), 5 x P, 9 x 1.5t truck, 5 x 2.5t truck, 1 x 1/4t light vehicle Edited September 24, 2019 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) 1954. 105mm M2* Howitzer Artillery Battery, Infantry Brigade/Hill/Mountain Brigade: 105mm M18(n), M18/40(n) or M18/43(f) howitzers may be substituted. When a production of the domestic 105mm M56 howitzer started it used same organization. Battery HQ - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 1 x R, 1 x PBty Cmd Section - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 1 x R, 1 x P- Bty Cmd - SMG- Bty 2inC - SMG- Bty Jr Officer - SMG- Medic - P- Driver - R, 1/4t light vehicle Command Plt - 42 men - 4 x ATW, 4 x MG, 16 x SMG, 22 x R (2/RG attachment), 4 x P, 2 x 2.5t truck- Plt Cmd - SMG- Driver x 2 - R, 2.5t truck - one truck loads both Security Sections, other loads rest of the Command Plt. Reconnaissance and observation section - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 2 x R- Section leader - SMG- Observer x 2 - SMG- Rangefinder x 2 - R Signal Section - 8 men - 1 x SMG, 7 x R- Section leader - SMG- Radioman x 3 - R- Telephone operator x 4 - R Plotting Section - 4 men - 1 x SMG, 3 x R- Section leader - SMG - also a main Bty plotter- Plotter x 3 - R Security Section x 2 - 11 men - 2 x ATW, 2 x MG, 5 x SMG, 4 x R (1/RG attachment), 2 x P- Section leader - SMG- MG gunner x 2 - MG, P- Assistant x 2 - R (1 x RG attachment)- Ammo bearer x 2 - SMG- AT Gunner - ATW, R- Assistant x 2 - SMG 105mm M2 Artillery Platoon x 2 - 27 men - 3 x 105mm howitzer, 10 x SMG, 17 x R (3/RG attachment), 1 x 2.5t truck, 3 x 1.5t truckPlt Cmd Section - 3 men - 1 x SMG, 2 x R- Plt Cmd - SMG- Radioman - R- Driver - R, 2.5t truck 105mm Howitzer Section - 8 men - 3 x SMG, 5 x R (1/RG attachment)- Section leader - SMG- Gunner - R- Assistant gunner - R- Loader - R- Fuse setter - R/RG attachment- Ammo handler x 2 - SMG- Driver - R, 2.5t truck Total - 128 ( 5 + 42 + 2 x 27 ) men - 6 x 105mm M2 Howitzer, 4 x ATW, 4 x MG, 39 x SMG, 57 x R (8/RG attachment), 5 x P, 11 x 2.5t truck, 1 x 1/4t light vehicle F-54 Infantry, Hill and Mountain Brigades had Mixed Artillery Support Group with 1 x 105mm HAB (6), 1 x 76mm GAB (4), 1 x 120mm MAB (4 or 6 mortars). Some did not have MAB and had 6-gun GAB instead. In 1958. some Infantry Bdes upgraded GAB to 9 guns (not specified, but I guess those that did not have MAB). In the Infantry brigades all batteries were motorized, in the Hill and Mountain Bdes only 105mm HAB was motorized, 76mm GAB and 120mm MAB used horse transport. Edited September 25, 2019 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) 1969/1977. 105mm M56 or M2* Howitzer Artillery Battery, Infantry Brigade/Hill Brigade:1977. replaced SMGs with ARs*105mm M18(n), M18/40(n) or M18/43(f) howitzers may be substituted in the reserve formations. Battery HQ - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 1 x SAR, 1 x P, 1 x 1/4t light vehicle- Bty Cmd - SMG- Bty 2inC/PO - SMG- Bty Jr Officer - SMG- Medic - P- Driver - SAR, 1/4t light vehicle Command Plt - 24 men - 6 x SMG, 18 x SAR, 2 x 5t truck- Plt Cmd - SMG- Driver - SAR, 5t truck Reconnaissance and observation section - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 2 x SAR- Section leader - SMG- Observer x 2 - SMG- Rangefinder x 2 - SAR Signal Section - 13 men - 1 x SMG, 12 x SAR, 1 x 5t truck- Section leader - SMG- Radioman x 5 - SAR- Telephone operator x 6 - SAR- Driver - SAR, 5t truck Plotting Section - 4 men - 1 x SMG, 3 x SAR- Section leader - SMG - also a main Bty plotter- Plotter x 3 - SAR 105mm Artillery Platoon x 2 - 30 men - 3 x 105mm howitzer, 7 x SMG, 20 x SAR, 3 x MG, 3 x P, 4 x 5t truck- Plt Cmd - SMG- Radioman - SAR- Driver - SAR, 5t truck 105mm Howitzer Section x 3 - 9 men - 2 x SMG, 6 x SAR, 1 x MG, 1 x P- Section leader - SMG- Gunner - SMG- Crew x 6 (duties not specified) - 5 x SAR, 1 x MG, 1 x P- Driver - SAR, 5t truck Total - 89 ( 5 + 24 + 2 x 30 ) men - 6 x 105mm howitzer, 6 x MG, 23 x SMG, 59 x SAR, 7 x P, 10 x 5t truck, 1 x 1/4t light vehicle 1969/1975. 105mm M56 or M2* Howitzer Artillery Battery, Naval Infantry Brigade:Unlike one from Infantry and Hill Bde this one had only 4 guns and also a smaller signal section Battery HQ - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 1 x SAR, 1 x P, 1 x 1/4t light vehicle- Bty Cmd - SMG- Bty 2inC/PO - SMG- Bty Jr Officer - SMG- Medic - P- Driver - SAR, 1/4t light vehicle Command Plt - 21 men - 6 x SMG, 15 x SAR, 2 x 5t truck- Plt Cmd - SMG- Driver - SAR, 5t truck Reconnaissance and observation section - 5 men - 3 x SMG, 2 x SAR- Section leader - SMG- Observer x 2 - SMG- Rangefinder x 2 - SAR Signal Section - 10 men - 1 x SMG, 9 x SAR, 1 x 5t truck- Section leader - SMG- Radioman x 4 - SAR- Telephone operator x 4 - SAR- Driver - SAR, 5t truck Plotting Section - 4 men - 1 x SMG, 3 x SAR- Section leader - SMG - also a main Bty plotter- Plotter x 3 - SAR 105mm Artillery Platoon x 2 - 21 men - 2 x 105mm howitzer, 5 x SMG, 14 x SAR, 2 x MG, 3 x P, 3 x 5t truck- Plt Cmd - SMG- Radioman - SAR- Driver - SAR, 5t truck 105mm Howitzer Section x 2 - 9 men - 2 x SMG, 6 x SAR, 1 x MG, 1 x P- Section leader - SMG- Gunner - SMG- Crew x 6 (duties not specified) - 5 x SAR, 1 x MG, 1 x P- Driver - SAR, 5t truck Total - 68 ( 5 + 21 + 2 x 21 ) men - 4 x 105mm howitzer, 4 x MG, 19 x SMG, 44 x SAR, 5 x P, 8 x 5t truck, 1 x 1/4t light vehicle Edited September 27, 2019 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bd1 0 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 bojan, i remember that you had somewhere the all different yugo weapons lists which i have yet to rediscover in tanknet archives, but was there a artillery thread too or i´m just imagining it? i must admit that i find yugo armed forces most interesting topic, since they and finland and sweden* are 3 completely different paths to a ´´normal´´ post-ww2 army in european conditions. (normal as in sense of preparing for normal, defensive , non-nuclear war with NOT only all-armored/IFV units or preparing for COIN ops ) * but not swiss military , swiss are just a preppers group in extreme Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted September 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) There were multiple tiers for a readiness of equipment, I am pretty sure I am missing some finer details:- 1 - In use - as can be assumed, actively used and people trained for it- 2 - Emergency use - similar to US "substitute standard", IOW in use due the lack of better things- 3 - Active reserve - in reserve, people trained for it are in the active reserve (20-35 y/o that have finished army service IIRC)- 4 - Passive reserve - no people trained for it in the active reserve, only 2nd and 3rd call reserves available for it. This one had 2 subclases, depending if people trained for it were in the 2nd or 3rd call reserve.- 5 - Wartime reserve - only for wartime use, no personal trained for it, only use is with newly trained soldiers during wartime, but there is enough of those weapons for a mass issue.- 6 - Wartime emergency - weapons that were too few to be generally issued even in wartime, only issued in the case of drastic emergency. In the 1990. infantry weapons would be something like this:- 1 - M70 AR, M72 SAW, M76 sniper, M84 MG, M79 ATW, 82mm M69 mortar, 82mm M60A RCL- 2 - M59/66 SAR, M53 MG, M57 ATW, 82mm M60 RCL (older model, had pneumatic tires and was somewhat heavier)- 3 - M70 AR, M59/66 SAR, M72 SAW, M76 and M69 snipers, M53 MG, 82mm M60 and M60A RCL- 4 - M59/66 SAR, M48 rifle, M56 SMG, M48/52 sniper, M53 and MG42 MG, 82mm M60 RCL- 5 - M24/47, M24/52, M98/48 rifles, MG34 MG, PPSh and Thompson SMGs, 82mm M34/49(n) and other WW2 vintage converted mortars, 75mm M20 and 57mm M18 RCL- 6 - unconverted original Mauser rifles in 7.92sx57, ZB-26/30 LMGs, various WW2 9mm SMGs, etc Brigade/Regiment artillery support weapons in 1991 would be:- 1 - 76mm M48B1 mountain gun, 122mm D-30J howitzer, 105mm M56 howitzer, 120mm M52 and M75 mortars- 2 - nothing. Brigade artillery was fully filled in all "A" units and active part of the "B" units- 3 - 76mm M48B1, 122mm D-30J, 105mm M56, 105mm M2, 120mm M52 and M75- 4 - 76mm M48B1, 122mm M38, 105mm M2, 105mm M56, 120mm M52 mortar- 5 - 76mm M1-4/50(a) mountain gun, 105mm M18/61 howitzer, 120mm M38 and M43(s) mortars- 6 - 76mm M38/48(n) mountain gun, 105mm M18(n), M18/43(n) and M18/43(f) howitzer, 105mm M3 howitzer, 120mm M42(n) and M43® mortars Edited October 9, 2019 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites

Perun 0 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 For Captain Hurricane: 1. Many years ago there was a thread on this forum on JNA organisations that ended up with a comprehensive PDF being posted ("the JAMAICA edition"). You can finde acurate oob of YPA/AF/Navy in pdf at http://www.paluba.info/smf/index.php/topic,21080.0.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites

Perun 0 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 For Bojan: how quickly could be achived full mobilization, in how much hours/days? In case of outside crisis Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Depending how long warning to a crisis was. During Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia it was estimated it would take about a week to fully mobilize B class units. Formally, it was possible to do even faster if there was increased state of readiness (Invasion of Czechoslovakia caught Yugoslavia with a surprise). R type units would be a wild guess, but at least two weeks is my estimate, possibly more if those were lower importance units. Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 1958. "A" Infantry regiment, pentomic organization - 1253 men: HQMilitary Police Section - 8 men, 8 x SMG, 8 x PSignal PlatoonNBC PlatoonSMG Platoon Recce Platoon F-54 - posted previously 5 x Rifle Company F-54 - posted previously Light AD Battery - 2 x 20/1mm M38, 6 x 12.7mm AAMG Light Artillery Battery 76mm M48B1 - 4 x 76mm M48B1 Mortar Battery 120mm M52 - 4 x 120mm M52 SP Anti-Armor Battery 76mm M-18 - 4 x M-18 Engineer Company Logistic Company Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 1946. Assault Pioneer company: Co HQ - 14 men - 3 x Flamethrower (FT), 7 x SMG, 6 x R, 1 x P, 2 x 2-horse wagon (2HW), 1 x Riding horse (RH), 1 x FT (reserve)Co Cmd Section - 8 men - 3 x SMG, 4 x R, 1 x P- Co Cmd - SMG, RH- Co 2inC/PO - SMG- Co Jr Officer - SMG- Runner x 2 - R- Wagon driver x 2 - R, 2HW- Medic - P Flamethrower section x 2 - 3 men, 2 x FT, 3 x SMG - attached to the Assault Pioneer Platoons as needed- Section leader - SMG- FT operator x 2 - FT, SMG Assault Pioneer platoon x 3 - 34 men - 2 x ATR, 2 x LMG, 12 x SMG, 20 x R, 1 x 2HWPlt Cmd Section - 4 men - 2 x SMG, 2 x R- Plt Cmd - SMG- Plt 2inC - SMG- Runner - R- Wagon driver - R 1st Pioneer Section - 10 men - 2 x LMG, 2 x ATR, 4 x SMG, 4 x R, 2 x P- Section leader - SMG - also ATR group leader - Sectopm 2inC - SMG - also LMG group leader- LMG gunner x 2 - LMG, P- Assistant x 2 - R- ATR gunner x 2 - ATR, R- Assistant x 2 - SMG 2nd and 3rd Pioneer Section - 10 men - 3 x SMG, 7 x R- Section leader - SMG- Pioneer x 2 - SMG- Pioneer x 7 - R Total - 116 ( 14 + 3 x 34 ) men - 5 x FT (1 reserve), 6 x ATR, 6 x LMG, 43 x SMG, 66 x R, 1 x P, 5 x 2HW, 1 x RH Edited April 24 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 1954. Pioneer Company Co HQ - 16 men - 2 x 57mm RCL, 7 x SMG, 8 x R, 1 x P, 1 x 3/4t vehicle, 1 x 2.5t truckCo Cmd Section - 9 men - 4 x SMG, 4 x R, 1 x P- Co Cmd - SMG- Co 2inC/PO - SMG- Co Jr Officer - SMG- Scout - SMG- Radiomen x 2 - R- Driver x 2 - R - 1 x 3/4t vehicle, 1 x 2.5t truck- Medic - P 57mm RCL Section - 2 x 57mm RCL, 3 x SMG, 4 x R- Section leader - SMG- RCL Gunner x 2 - 57mm RCL, R- Assistant x 2 - R- Ammo bearer x 2 - SMG Pioneer Platoon x 3 - 34 men - 2 x ATW, 1 x LMG, 16 x SMG, 16 x R, 2 x P, 1 x 2.5t truckPlt Cmd Section - 4 men - 2 x SMG, 1 x R, 1 x P- Plt Cmd - SMG- Plt 2inC - SMG- Driver - R, 2.5t truck- Medic - P 1st Pioneer Section - 10 men - 1 x LMG, 4 x SMG, 5 x R (1/RG attachment), 1 x P- Section leader - SMG- LMG gunner - LMG, P- Assistant - R- Pioneer x 3 - SMG - P1 is section 2inC- Pioneer x 4 - 3 x R, 1 x R/RG attachment 2nd and 3rd Pioneer Section - 10 men - 1 x ATW, 5 x SMG, 5 x R (1/RG attachment), 1 x P- Section leader - SMG- AT gunner - ATW, R- Assistant - SMG- Pioneer x 3 - SMG - P1 is section 2inC- Pioneer x 4 - 3 x R, 1 x R/RG attachment Total - 118 ( 16 + 3 x 34 ) men - 2 x 57mm RCL, 6 x ATW, 3 x LMG, 55 x SMG, 56 x R (9/RG attachment), 7 x P, 4 x 2.5t truck, 1 x 3/4t vehicleCompany can be reinforces with a mortar section with 10 men / 3 x 60mm or 9 men / 2 x 82mm mortars.Up the 6 flamethrowers (2 per Pioneer Platoon) are issued if needed. Edited October 6, 2019 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted October 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 1965. Pioneer CompanyIt has reorganized platoons and also added support platoon. Co HQ - 9 men - 3 x SMG, 4 x R, 1 x P, 1 x 5t truck, 1 x 3/4t vehicle- Co Cmd - SMG- Co 2inC/PO - SMG- Co Jr Officer - SMG- Radiomen x 2 - R- Driver x 2 - R - 1 x 3/4t vehicle, 1 x 5t truck- Medic - P Pioneer Platoon x 3 - 34 men - 2 x ATW, 2 x LMG, 14 x SMG, 15 x R, 5 x P, 1 x 5t truckPlt Cmd Section - 4 men - 2 x SMG, 1 x R, 1 x P, 1 x 5t truck- Plt Cmd - SMG- Plt 2inC/Senior demolition specialist - SMG- Driver - R, 5t truck- Medic - P 1st Pioneer Section - 10 men - 2 x ATW, 4 x SMG, 4 x R, 2 x P- Section leader - SMG- AT gunner x 2 - ATW, P- Assistant x 2 - SMG- Pioneer/Demolition specialist - SMG - also Section 2inC- Pioneer x 4 - R 2nd and 3rd Pioneer Section - 10 men - 1 x LMG, 4 x SMG, 5 x R, 1 x P- Section leader - SMG- LMG gunner - LMG, P- Assistant - R- Pioneer x 3 - SMG - one of them Demolition specialist- Pioneer x 4 - R, 1 x R/RG attachment Support Platoon - 33 men - 2 x 82mm mortar, 4 x ATW, 3 x MG, 14 x SMG, 10 x R, 9 x P, 2 x 5t truckPlt Cmd Section - 4 men - 2 x SMG, 2 x R, 1 x 5t truck- Plt Cmd - SMG- Plt 2inC - SMG- Radioman - R- Driver - R, 5t truck MG Section - 10 men - 3 x MG, 4 x SMG, 3 x R, 3 x P- Section leader - SMG- MG gunner x 3 - MG, P- Assistant x 3 - R- Ammo bearer x 3 - SMG Mortar Section - 10 men - 2 x 82mm mortar, 3 x SMG, 5 x R, 2 x P- Section leader - SMG- Mortar gunner x 2 - 82mm mortar, P- Loader x 2 - R- Ammo bearer x 2 - SMG- Ammo handler x 2 - R AT Section - 9 men - 4 x ATW, 5 x SMG, 4 x P- Section leader - SMG- AT Gunner x 4 - ATW- Assistant x 4 - SMG Total - 143 ( 8 + 3 x 34 + 33 ) men - 2 x 82mm mortar, 10 x ATW, 3 x MG, 6 x LMG, 59 x SMG, 59 x R, 25 x P, 6 x 5t truck, 1 x 3/4t vehicleFlamethrowers were declared "limited use" in the early '60s (1961-1962) and soldiers were no longer trained in their use, so there are none in this version.Demolition specialists are issued section explosive obstacle breaching ammunition (bangalore torpedoes etc). Senior Demolition Specialist plans and oversees entire platoon use of the explosive ammunition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites

Captain Hurricane 0 Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 For Captain Hurricane: 1. Many years ago there was a thread on this forum on JNA organisations that ended up with a comprehensive PDF being posted ("the JAMAICA edition"). You can finde acurate oob of YPA/AF/Navy in pdf at http://www.paluba.info/smf/index.php/topic,21080.0.html Thanks for the link Perun, very useful indeed..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted October 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 1981. "B" or "R" Infantry RegimentOnly heavier weapons and motorization listed for some, w/o personal weapons Regiment HQ - 39 men HQ Command - 44 men - 2 x SAW, 5 x MC, 3 x 1/4t light vehicle (LV), 4 x 5t truck Reconnaissance Platoon F-81 - 51 men - 3 x SAW, 48 x AR, 2 x 5t truck, 1 x Motorcycle, 3 x 1/4t vehicle, 2 x GSR Infantry Battalion x 3 - 719 men - 4 x 20/1mm AAG, 3 x SA-7 launcher, 6 x 82mm RCL, 4 x AT-3 ATGM launcher, 14 x 82mm mortar, 9 x MG, 56 x SAW, 56 x ATW, 6 x SR, 1 x MC, 6 x 1.5t truck, 22 x 5t truck, 10 x 1/4t light vehicle (various)Command - 17 men - 10 x AR, 5 x SAR, 2 x P, 1 x MC, 1 x 1.5t truckSignal section - 9 men - 9 men - 1 x AR, 8 x SAR, 1 x 5t truck, 1 x 1/4t radio vehicleTechnical section - 14 men - 14 men - 2 x AR, 12 x SAR, 1 x 1.5t truck, 3 x 5t truckLogistic section - 23 men - 23 men - 1 x AR, 18 x SAR, 2 x SAW, 2 x ATW, 2 x P, 3 x 5t truck, 2 x field kitchen-trailer Medical section - 14 men - 14 x SAR, 1 x 1/4t ambulance, 1 x medical cartInfantry Company F-81 x 3 - 163 men - 2 x 82mm Mortar, 3 x MG, 18 x SAW, 18 x ATW, 2 x SR, 89 x AR, 19 x SAR, 34 x P, 2 x 5t truck, 2 x 1/4t light vehicle/ trailer82mm Mortar platoon F-77 - 46 men - 8 x 82mm mortar, 8 x AR, 30 x SAR, 8 x P, 1 x 1/4t Light vehicle /trailer, 4 x 5t TruckAnti-Armor Company F-81 - Total - 57 men - 6 x 82mm RCL, 4 x ATGM launcher, 7 x AR, 42 x SAR, 8 x P, 5 x M/V 5t Truck.Light AD Artillery-Missile Platoon - 27 men - 4 x 20/1 AAG, 3 x SA-7 launcher, 2 x SAW, 4 x AR, 18 x SAR, 3 x AP, 4 x 1.5t truck Mixed Artillery Group - 402 men - 6 x 76mm mountain gun, 12 x 120mm mortar, 6 x 90mm M-36 SPG or 6 x 76mm M42 ATG, 6 x AT-3 ATGM launcher, 3 x SA-7 launcherCommandCommand PlatoonAD Section - 4 men - 3 x SA-7 launcher, 1 x AR, 3 x SARLight artillery battery 76mm M48B1 F-81 - 77 men - 6 x 76mm M48B1 mountain gun, 6 x MG, 18 x AR, 52 x SAR, 7 x P, 1 x 5t truck, 7 x 1.5t truckMortar battery 120mm M52 F-81 x 2 - 71 men - 6 x 120mm M52 mortar, 6 x MG, 18 x AR, 46 x SAR, 7 x P, 1 x 5t truck, 7 x 1.5t truckSelf-propelled Anti-armor Artillery Battery 90mm M-36 F-81 - 6 x Self-propelled Anti-Armor Gun 90mm M-36, 6 x 12.7mm AAMG, 3 x ATW, 1 x MG, 15 x AR, 9 x SAR, 18 x AP, 5 x P, 1 x 1/4t LV /trailer, 1 x 5t TruckorAnti-armor artillery battery 76mm M42 - 67 men - 6 x 76mm M42 ATG, 1 x MG, 3 x ATW, 11 x AR, 51 x SAR, 5 x P, 1 x 1/4t LV/trailer, 7 x 5t truckMissile Anti-armor battery 9K11 - 38 men - 6 x ATGM launcher, 1 x MG, 3 x ATW, 10 x AR, 2 x SAR, 5 x P, 3 x 5t truck, 1 x 1/4t LV Light Artillery AD Battery - 109 men - 12* x 20/3mm AAG, 3 x ATW, 3 x SAW, 19 x AR, 84 x SAR, 1 x 1/4t LV, 13 x 5t truck* 8-gun battery (2 x AAG platoon insted of 3) was actually more common. Pioneer Company F-81 - 94(?) men - 6 x ATW, 6 x SAW, 12* x AR, 70* x SAR, 9 x P, 4 x 5t truck Signal Company - 96 men - 1 x SAW, 2 x MC, 2 x 1/4t LV, 2 x 1/4t radio vehicle, NBC Platoon - 24 men - 1 x SAR, 1 x ATW, 4 x 1/4t NBC vehicle, 1 x 5t truck Logistic base (company) - 182 men - 3 x SAW, 2 x 1/4t LV, 4 x 1/4t ambulance, 1 x 1.5t truck, 36 x 5t truck (27 transport, 9 specialized), 1 x 5t ambulance, 1 x 6t truck, 8 x 3t trailer, 2 x large kitchen-trailer, 4 x medical cartCommand - 13 menTechnical supply platoon - 39 menTechnical maintenance platoon - 43 menSupply platoon - 39 menHigiene platoon - 48 men Edited October 14, 2019 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Pioneer Company, F-69, F-75/F-81, F-83/F-87/F-90. Since they are all pretty similar I will put them in one post: 1969. Pioneer CompanyCompany HQ - 7 men - 3 x SMG, 3 x SAR, 1 x P - Co Cmd - SMG - Co 2inC/PO - SMG - Co Jr. Officer - SMG - Radioman x 2 - SAR - Medic - P - Driver - SAR, 5t truck Pioneer Platoon x 3 - 30 men - 2 x ATW, 1 x LMG, 13 x SMG, 13 x SAR, 4 x P- Plt Cmd - SMG- Driver - SAR, 5t truck- Medic - P 1st Pioneer Section - 9 men - 1 x LMG, 4 x SMG, 4 x SAR, 1 x P- Section leader - SMG- LMG gunner - LMG, P- Assistant - SAR- Pioneer x 6 - 3 x SMG, 3 x SAR 2nd and 3rd Pioneer Section - 9 men - 1 x ATW, 4 x SMG, 4 x SAR, 1 x P- Section leader - SMG- AT gunner - ATW, P- Assistant - SAR- Pioneer x 6 - 3 x SMG, 3 x SAR Total - 97 ( 7 + 3 x 30) men - 6 x ATW, 3 x LMG, 42 x SMG, 42 x SAR, 13 x P 1975/81. Pioneer CompanyNo formal difference between two, not sure why designation changedCompany HQ - 7 men - 3 x AR, 3 x SAR, 1 x P - Co Cmd - AR - Co 2inC/PO - AR - Co Jr. Officer - AR - Radioman x 2 - SAR - Medic - P - Driver - SAR, 5t truck Pioneer Platoon x 3 - 30 men - 2 x ATW, 2 x SAW, 12 x AR, 13 x SAR, 3 x P- Plt Cmd - AR- Driver - SAR, 5t truck- Medic - P 1st Pioneer Section - 9 men - 2 x SAW, 3 x AR, 4 x SAR- Section leader - SMG- SAW gunner x 2 - SAW- Pioneer x 6 - 2 x AR, 4 x SAR 2nd and 3rd Pioneer Section - 9 men - 1 x ATW, 4 x AR, 4 x SAR, 1 x P- Section leader - AR- AT gunner - ATW, P- Assistant - SAR- Pioneer x 6 - 3 x AR, 3 x SAR Total - 97 ( 7 + 3 x 30) men - 6 x ATW, 6 x SAW, 39 x AR, 42 x SAR, 10 x P 1983/1987/1990. Pioneer CompanyF-83 Reduced sections to 8 men, added another vehicle in HQ, added NBC scoutF-87 replaced all SAR with ARF-90 removed NBC scout Company HQ - 9 men - 3 x AR, 5 x SAR, 1 x P- Co Cmd - AR- Co 2inC/PO - AR- Co Jr. Officer - AR- Radioman x 2 - SAR- Medic - P- NBC Scout - SAR - not present in F-90- Driver x 2 - SAR, 5t truck, 1/4t LV or LV/6S Pioneer Platoon x 3 - 27 men - 2 x ATW, 2 x SAW, 12 x AR, 10 x SAR, 3 x P- Plt Cmd - AR- Driver - SAR, 5t truck- Medic - P 1st Pioneer Platoon - 8 men - 2 x SAW, 3 x AR, 3 x SAR- Section leader - SMG- SAW gunner x 2 - SAW- Pioneer x 5 - 2 x AR, 3 x SAR 2nd and 3rd Pioneer Section - 8 men - 1 x ATW, 4 x AR, 3 x SAR, 1 x P- Section leader - AR- AT gunner - ATW, P- Assistant - SAR- Pioneer x 5 - 3 x AR, 2 x SAR Total - 90/90/89 ( 9/9/8 + 3 x 27 ) men - 6 x ATW, 6 x SAW, 39/74/73 x AR, 35/0/0 x SAR, 10 x P Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 1981./1987./1990. 105mm M56/M2 Howitzer Artillery BatteryIt was used in some of the Infantry and Naval Infantry brigades (3 batteries in the Howitzer artillery group), in some Infantry regiments since 1987 (same as in Inf Bdes), some Hill brigades (same as in Inf Bdes).F-87 replaced SAR with ARF-90 removed pistols from MG gunnersNo data for those, but 122mm D-30J, 122mm D-30 and 122mm M38 battery should have same organization. Those were used in some of the Infantry and all Motorized Brigades. Some of the Mechanized brigades also had towed 122mm D-30J Battery instead of 2S1 Battery. Battery HQ - 5 men - 3 x AR, 1 x SAR, 1 x P, 1 x LV/6S- Bty Cmd - AR- Bty 2inC/PO - AR- Bty Jr Officer - AR- Medic - P- Driver - SAR, LV/6S Battery Command Platoon - 2 men - 28 men - 6 x AR, 22 x SAR, 1 x 5t truck, 1 x 1.5t truck- Plt Cmd - AR- Driver - SAR, 1.5t truck Reconnaissance Section - 5 men - 3 x AR, 2 x SAR- Section leader - AR- Spotter x 2 - AR- Rangefinder - AR, Laser range finder M80 Signal Section - 17 men - 1 x AR, 16 x SAR, 1 x 5t truck- Section leader - AR- Radiomen x 9 - SAR- Telephone operator x 6 - AR- Driver - SAR, 5t truck Plotting Section - 4 men - 1 x AR, 3 x SAR- Section leader/Main Battery Plotter - AR- Plotter x 3 - SAR 105mm Artillery Platoon x 2 - 28 men - 3 x 105mm howitzer, 3 x MG, 4 x AR, 21 x SAR, 3 x P, 3 x 3t truck- Plt Cmd - AR 105mm Howitzer Section x 3 - 9 men - 1 x 105mm howitzer M56 or M2, 1 x MG, 1 x AR, 7 x SAR, 1 x P, 1 x 3t truck- Section leader - AR - 1st Section leader is also Plt 2inC- Gunner - SAR- Assistant gunner - SAR- Loader - SAR- Fuse setter - SAR- Ammo handler 1 & 2 - SAR- Ammo handler 3 - MG, P- Driver - SAR Total - 89 ( 5 + 28 + 2 x 28 ) men - 6 x 105mm howitzer M56 or M2*, 6 x MG, 17/82/82 x AR, 65/0/0 x SAR, 7/7/1 x P, 1 x LV/6S, 1 x 1.5t truck, 6 x 3t truck, 1 x 5t truck * 105mm M18/61 can be substituted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites

Perun 0 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Do you have data for light selfpropeled artillery batery Praga 30/2 mm). (Da li ima formaciju lakih samohodnih artiljerijskih baterija PVO 30/2 mm na Pragama?)Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted October 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 I should have it somewhere, but that will have to wait until Monday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted October 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) Actually had it on the computer, so did not have to dig in the papers:1987. version, but early '80s should be similar. Before that there would be P instead of AP, some SAR instead of AR, and probably different Command section, but I have no data for it. Generally I have very few data for an AD... Battery HQ - 5 men - 3 x AR, 1 x AP, 1 x P, 1 x LV/6S- Bty Cmd - AP- Bty 2inC/PO - AR- Bty Jr Officer - AR- Medic - P- Driver - AR, LV/6S Command Section - 12 men - 12 x AR, 1 x 5t truck- Section leader - AR- Radiomen x 4 - AR- Spotter x 3 - AR- Telephone operator x 3 - AR- Driver - AR.SPAAG Platoon x 2 - 17 men - 3 x 30/2mm SPAAG, 13 x AR, 4 x AP- Plt Cmd - AP- Driver - AR, 5t truck SPAAG Section x 3 - 5 men - 1 x 30/2mm SPAAG, 4 x AR, 1 x AP- Section leader - AR- Gunner - AP- Loader x 2 (left and right gun) - AR- Driver - AR Total - 51 ( 5 + 12 + 2 x 17 ) men - 6 x 30/2mm M-53/59 SPAAG*, 41 x AR, 9 x AP, 3 x 5t truck, 1 x LV/6S Edited October 19, 2019 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bd1 0 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 i must admit that looking at M60 APC and seeing how it was supposed to fit squad, equipment, ammunition, on some recoilless rifles, then thinking about average yugoslavian height, first thought was that the machine must be a lot bigger than it appears on pictures. or they were just standing up like in city bus, holding on to some rails on the ceiling Quote Link to post Share on other sites

bojan 0 Posted October 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) Well, it was called "Peglica" (Little Flatiron, also nickname for Polski Fiat 126) for a reason. Armored units had a limit on a max height, IIRC 180cm (but it was ignored often). OTOH it is not "that" small - it is actually slightry longer (~20cm) than M113 (but is lower about 20cm and armored hull is narrower).M-60/60P originally had a crew of 3, with 10 dismounts. When ATGMs were introduced one seat was removed and instead storage for two launchers (and 8 missiles in their transport boxes) was made.M-60PB had crew of 4 (added RCL gunner). Loader was AAMG gunner. It had 8 dismounts - one seat was lost due the RCL gunner, other seat was adopted to fit storage for 10 RCL rounds (yes, ammo load was 10 rounds total). Additionally carriage for one RCL (and tripod for M2HB AAMG) was supposed to be carried externally, but I am not sure if I have ever seen carriage for RCL being carried. AAMG ammo was carried externally. M-60 was not really a fortunate vehicle, it almost resulted in a "ban" on developing domestic AFVs, only need to replace it lead to M-80 development getting a go. Production of M-60 stopped in 1976-77. Edited October 19, 2019 by bojan Quote Link to post Share on other sites

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