Tank Net And The Eu's Article 13

[Nobu]

The fact that it is not just any entity but the EU that is laying the difficult foundational groundwork for this type of internet regulation both will legitimize it internationally and make it difficult to roll back the longer it survives implementation.

 

There should be a theoretical censorship line that the EU is unwilling to cross. It will be interesting to find out what it is when that happens.

[TTK Ciar]

There should be a theoretical censorship line that the EU is unwilling to cross. It will be interesting to find out what it is when that happens.

I posit that there are two lines: One which EU politicians will not cross, and one that EU citizens will not cross.

 

If the EU citizens reach their line before EU politicians reach theirs, expect to see new regulation-resistant technologies emerge.

[Soren Ras]

That will be when they start talking about banning/restricting VPNs.

 

 

Soren

[Nobu]

If the EU citizens reach their line before EU politicians reach theirs, expect to see new regulation-resistant technologies emerge.

 

The eternal battle continues, between the Bureaucracy of Anything and those who seek to remain one step ahead of it.

 

I don't think the results for small sites like us will be noticeable, but I suspect companies with deep pockets are going to get hit pretty hard

 

I am hopeful this turns out to be the case, but it could turn into a situation in which the most powerful and wealthy of companies end up being the entities most able to afford the cost of defending themselves. The victory of Scientology over the IRS may be a cautionary example of this possibility in various ways.

Edited April 7, 2019 by Nobu

[Markus Becker]

https://winfuture.de/news,108622.html

 

Fuck the EU!

[TTK Ciar]

 

https://winfuture.de/news,108622.html

 

Fuck the EU!

 

 

Translated to English by Google:

 

Zippyshare: The popular Filehoster now blocks German users

 

Users of relevant file-sharing forums, the host Zippyshare is certainly a household name, this is also very popular in the scene. But from Germany Zippyshare is no longer available. What lies behind this country-specific blockade is currently not clear.

 

On Sunday, the next episode of Game of Thrones will be in the United States, and for many who do not have a Sky subscription or the like, they'll be looking for "other sources" (tags) to download the latest episode. For some fans of the fantasy series, the path will lead to filehosters, where they download the appropriate video. But they may soon have a problem, because the currently most popular service of this kind is currently not available from Germany.

 

Forbidden

 

As the blog Tarnkappe reported, you are currently getting an error with the number 403 when trying to open a Zippyshare download link (the page itself is still reachable). This error is feared and also quite clear, because briefly or in other words says number 403 "Forbidden", ie prohibited.

 

Zippyshare has not commented on this so far, there are also numerous speculations about what's going on. For example, there are reports that UK users have been similarly locked out in March, but it is unknown.

 

The lock exists since several days and concerns only users with German IP address. This can be overcome with a VPN access, but this option is usually chargeable. That might be an exclusion criterion for some Zippyshare users, because the main advantage of the Filehoster is that you get fast downloads at no extra cost.

 

If you do not have a VPN and still want to download Zippyshare files, you can also access the Tor browser, so that you can still access the downloads without failing on the Error 403 (at least if you do not catch a German exit node). ,

 

If you want to see the eagerly anticipated third episode of the final season of Game of Thrones without any problems, then this is probably best served with a legal option, which can be found at the following sources:

 

* Sky Atlantic HD every Monday from 3:00 clock

* Sky Go, Sky Ticket or Sky Q every Monday from 4:00

* Amazon Prime Video & Apple iTunes every Tuesday

 

[Harold Jones]

Not sure I can get worked up about a site used to share pirated tv shows being blocked.

[Markus Becker]

They are a fileshoster like all the others with a good free service like some of the others. They are not Piratebay or EZTV, both of which can still be accessed from Germany.

[Nobu]

Yet another box checked off the list of what is dear to the Bureaucracy of Anything: baby steps to set precedent and the stage for regulation of bigger and better game.

 

If an argument can be made for the public good as the low-hanging fruit are plucked in the process, so much the better.

[TTK Ciar]

Not sure I can get worked up about a site used to share pirated tv shows being blocked.

That's only one of the things the site is used for, and it's not even the most common use-case.

 

Blocking it is akin to outlawing knife ownership because some people have used some knives to stab people, despite the most common use-case being kitchen utility.

[Harold Jones]

More like a liquor store being shutdown for selling to minors.

[Markus Becker]

The warez sites are the misbehaving liquor stores, not the filehoster.

 

And users uploading copyrighted material problem all file hosters have and so far the policy was to take down that content once they became aware of it. I think Zippy is shutting us out because they can't afford the upload filters. Hm, I wonder how they make any money. Their free service is super fast and they don't even have tons of adds like the others.

 

 

BTW, the FFZ is shutting me out recently. The other forums are easy to get into but this place takes ages to load if it loads at all.

[rmgill]

It's a fair bet that established politicians will get a different level of handling for "censorship" than will folks challenging them by way of elections or anyone critical of the established politicians or incumbent governments.

You can already see this with Carl Benjamin's campaign for MEP and how twitter suspended his election account. I think his points on the Westminster bubble vis a vis the press is spot on and it maps over to everything we've seen of Trump and treatment by the press of unconventional conservative politicians.

The reason you don't allow government to restrict speech is that it cannot be expected to do so in an even handed way. The power corrupts. Best thing to do is to keep an even playing field, everyone gets to say what evert they want and you don't go down the rabbit hole in the first place.

Edited April 28, 2019 by rmgill

[Panzermann]

It's a fair bet that established politicians will get a different level of handling for "censorship" than will folks challenging them by way of elections or anyone critical of the established politicians or incumbent governments.

 

You can already see this with Carl Benjamin's campaign for MEP and how twitter suspended his election account. I think his points on the Westminster bubble vis a vis the press is spot on and it maps over to everything we've seen of Trump and treatment by the press of unconventional conservative politicians.

 

The reason you don't allow government to restrict speech is that it cannot be expected to do so in an even handed way. The power corrupts. Best thing to do is to keep an even playing field, everyone gets to say what evert they want and you don't go down the rabbit hole in the first place.

 

Not only free speech. Recently the EU Parliament has adopted mandatory finger prints in passports and other ID documents. And an all ESchengen-area wide database for all the police relevant data like registers, biometry etc. In Article 10 they put an addendum, that the data may be used for not as yet closer defined purposes. Am I the only one that thinks this means selling the big data corps like alphabet, facebook or baidu?

 

 

I feel so much safer now, when the special experts for computer things of our governments handle the sensitive personal data.

[Panzermann]

 

 

BTW, the FFZ is shutting me out recently. The other forums are easy to get into but this place takes ages to load if it loads at all.

 

I have this problem sometimes as well. This may have more to do with teh number of threads in the FFZ. All the regular birthday threads make the number of threads explode in the ffz subforum. Which then the databse has all to juggle and parse to present us the newest threads.

[Markus Becker]

https://www.achgut.com/artikel/italien_facebook_sperrt_populistische_seiten

 

Facebook closed 23 Italian pages supporting the Legalese and Five Stars for populism and hate speech. The decision was based on research by a leftist NGO.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avaaz

Edited May 15, 2019 by Markus Becker