Nobu Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 There was a crack in the top of the lead coffin, unfortunately.
cjpaul Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 The reproductive rate R0 is estimated between 3.3 and 5.4. It may actually be higher due to the inherent underestimation caused by small sample sizes. For reference, influenza has an R0 of about 3. Coronavirus is going to spread fast and wide. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.23.916395v1
Leo Niehorster Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I think you missed a decimal point. 56 out of 2000 is 2.8%.--Leo
Panzermann Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 IIRC they dug up the body of Mark Sykes (of Sykes Picot fame) in recent years trying to find an intact sample of the Spanish Flu strain. The body was not as well preserved as they had hoped. There was a crack in the top of the lead coffin, unfortunately. Too bad. Iirc samples of teh spanish flu have been found in graves in Alaska. Preserved by the cold soil.
BansheeOne Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 The problem about a proper pandemic is that numbers are usually outdated at the time you post them. Coronavirus: Death toll rises to 81 as China extends holiday 27 January 2020 The number of people killed in China by the coronavirus has risen to 81, with almost 3,000 confirmed ill. The national new year holiday has been extended by three days to Sunday, in an attempt to contain the spread. On Monday, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang visited Wuhan, the capital of Hubei province and centre of the outbreak. The number of deaths in Hubei province has climbed from 56 to 76, with five deaths elsewhere. Wuhan is in lockdown and several other cities have imposed travel bans. [...] At least 44 cases have been confirmed abroad, including in Thailand, the United States, and Australia. There have been no deaths outside China. [...]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51259649
RETAC21 Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I was thinking that this virus would make a nifty bioweapon to take over Taiwan. The PRC may deploy it at D-15 at Taiwan Army bases, get it going for 10 days without symptoms and then shut down the military when they are needed. Even a low lethality rate would help as all it needs to do is disrupt a defensive deployment.
R011 Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 I think you missed a decimal point. 56 out of 2000 is 2.8%.--Leo Well, give it a bit more time and maybe it will get there.
BansheeOne Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Got one in Bavaria, reportedly an employee of a convertible car roof maker with several dependencies in China, including Wuhan. Apparently he got infected by a Chinese colleague who visited the Stockdorf HQ two weeks ago. Authorities say he's in isolation but doing well, and while his co-workers are being checked out, general public risk is low. For scale they noted that the current bog standard flu season has so far caused more than 13,000 infections and 30 deaths in Germany, and the particularly bad 2017/18 season claimed 25,000 lives (ETA: globally, that is; I find that the number for Germany was about 1,700). Edited January 28, 2020 by BansheeOne
Jeff Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Xi Jinping Vows To Combat Coronavirus By Making It Illegal To Mention Within A Week
JasonJ Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 ... China said on Tuesday that 106 people had died from the virus, which is believed to have originated in the central city of Wuhan and is spreading across the country. The previous death toll, on Monday, was 81. The number of confirmed cases increased to 4,515 on Tuesday, from 2,835 on Monday, according to the National Health Commission. The youngest confirmed case is a 9-month-old girl in Beijing. Most of the confirmed cases have been in the central Chinese province of Hubei, where several cities, including Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak, have been placed under what amounts to a lockdown. Of the total cases, 2,714 are in Hubei. Thailand has reported 14 cases of infection; Hong Kong has eight; the United States, Taiwan, Australia and Macau have five each; Singapore, South Korea and Malaysia each have reported four; Japan has seven; France has four; Canada have three; Vietnam has two; and Nepal, Cambodia and Germany each have one. There have been no deaths outside China. ...https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=china+virus&tbm=nws&prmd=nvi&sxsrf=ACYBGNTgEufIQivEtPRd4oEqsoBYnZrMIA:1580252153965&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:d&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibnKuCsqfnAhWx3mEKHQfhB9sQpwUIIA&biw=592&bih=336&dpr=3
Mikel2 Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Mortality seems far lower outside of China. Maybe the PRC's healthcare is not as good as Michael Moore thinks?
JasonJ Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) Mortality seems far lower outside of China. Maybe the PRC's healthcare is not as good as Michael Moore thinks?Or at least, not in the interior parts. Coastal region may be would have faired better. Up to 132 dead.BEIJING (AP) -- Countries on Wednesday began evacuating their citizens from the Chinese city hardest-hit by an outbreak of a new virus that has killed 132 people and infected more than 6,000 on the mainland and abroad. China's latest figures cover the previous 24 hours and add 26 to the number of deaths, 25 of which were in the Hubei province and its capital, Wuhan. The 5,974 cases on the mainland were a rise of 1,459 from the previous day. Dozens of infections of the new type of coronavirus have been confirmed outside mainland China as well. ... http://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200129000068 Edited January 29, 2020 by JasonJ
Roman Alymov Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Mortality seems far lower outside of China. Maybe the PRC's healthcare is not as good as Michael Moore thinks?As far as i understand, people infected outside China are mostly international travelers, so it is quite logical to expect percentage of old, unhealthy or young children among them to be lower than in China mainland where all population is exposed to danger - and, as result, mortality outside China will be lower at least untill virus broke free to wider population.
DougRichards Posted January 29, 2020 Author Posted January 29, 2020 You won't be able to access the link but here is some text, Australian media about Sydney: Children in Sydney’s northwest donned protective masks for the first day of school on Wednesday while one parent claimed families in the area were lying about where they travelled during the break, amid the outbreak of coronavirus.The NSW Government made a plea to parents on Tuesday to keep their children home if they had recently been in China but Ryde Public School mother-of-two Natasha Haugh said some families were defying the request.“I know of people in the local community who travelled to China and back, then lied about it and said they’d been to Bali,” Ms Haugh said outside the school on Wednesday morning. “They could be infected with the virus and spread it. It made me really angry, they’re putting other people’s lives potentially at risk.”Ms Haugh said that her eldest Holly, 8, was “worried” about returning to school amid the outbreak, and that she had “considered” buying her daughter a mask.“She’s been worried, but we haven’t hidden it from her because she needs to be aware,” Ms Haugh said.“It’s quite a worry, especially when you’ve got small children. We thought about buying masks but it’s hard to find them at the moment, everywhere is sold out.”
DougRichards Posted January 29, 2020 Author Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) Australia has just announced that the Christmas Island refugee centre will be re opened to house evacuated people from the bat eating zone. So, the lesson is: don't eat bats. Don't go to where people eat bats or other strange foods and if you do, expect to spend time in a concentration camp so that the land that you say you call home (but obviously isn't) won't cop as many cases of the virus from where you truly call home. Your people, your customs, your associations. Enjoy quarantine. Edited January 29, 2020 by DougRichards
BansheeOne Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Got one in Bavaria, reportedly an employee of a convertible car roof maker with several dependencies in China, including Wuhan. Apparently he got infected by a Chinese colleague who visited the Stockdorf HQ two weeks ago. Authorities say he's in isolation but doing well, and while his co-workers are being checked out, general public risk is low. For scale they noted that the current bog standard flu season has so far caused more than 13,000 infections and 30 deaths in Germany, and the particularly bad 2017/18 season claimed 25,000 lives (ETA: globally, that is; I find that the number for Germany was about 1,700).Three more from that company put into isolation. Looks a little like the usual Bavarian show-off hardassery, given that the first case reportedly hasn't even any fever and respiratory problems anymore. Or else it's for the benefit of a controlled case study. The Chinese lady who brought it here apparently contracted it from her parents from Wuhan, was asymptomatic while holding a class for about 40 colleagues, and only fell ill on the way home. The childcare of the first case's three-year-old kid is also being monitored.
JasonJ Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 BEIJING (AP) — The death toll rose to 170 in the new virus outbreak in China on Thursday as foreign evacuees from the worst-hit region begin returning home under close observation and world health officials expressed “great concern” that the disease is starting to spread between people outside of China. Thursday’s figures cover the previous 24 hours and represent an increase of 38 deaths and 1,737 cases for a total of 7,711. Of the new deaths, 37 were in the epicenter of the outbreak in Hubei province and one in the southwestern province of Sichuan. ... https://wtmj.com/national/2020/01/29/china-virus-death-toll-rises-to-170-transmission-a-concern/amp/
Mikel2 Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 It appears that the Chinese government has declined an offer of help by the CDC.
BansheeOne Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Apparently the Chinese government didn't take kindly to this carricature in a Danish newspaper.
DougRichards Posted January 30, 2020 Author Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) It does not help when selfish pricks put the rest of us at risk by spreading the damn contagion: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-30/coronavirus-fears-queensland-four-tested/11912148 Queensland authorities are testing four more people for coronavirus who were in the same tour group with a man who tested positive yesterday.Key points:The man who tested positive travelled to the Gold Coast on Tiger Airways flight TT566 on January 27Eight others in the man's tour group have been isolatedTwo Australian citizens in China have also been infected with coronavirus They are all in isolation at the Gold Coast University Hospital.The test results are due later today.The man who tested positive travelled from Melbourne to the Gold Coast on Tigerair Australia flight TT566 on January 27 in seats 11A and 11B. "Queensland Health is trying to get contact details for all passengers on that flight," he said.He urged anyone that was on the flight to call 13HEALTH.Tigerair confirmed 172 people were on the flight.The plane was taken out of service this afternoon as a 'precautionary measure' for cleaning. Edited January 30, 2020 by DougRichards
JasonJ Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Russia closes Far East border. Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin has ordered the closure of the country's Far East border to prevent the spread of the deadly coronavirus, the state-run TASS news agency reported Thursday.“The order was signed today and has taken effect,” Mishustin said as quoted by TASS.“We’ll inform everyone today about the border-closure measures in the Far East region and other activities taken by the Russian government [on coronavirus prevention],” he said.Russia has also suspended the issuing of electronic visas to Chinese nationals, the Foreign Ministry said Thursday.Russia hasn’t registered any cases, despite numerous scares, of the rapidly spreading epidemic that has killed 170 people.Earlier this week, Russia blocked tourist groups from China from entering the country.Countries began isolating hundreds of citizens evacuated from the Chinese city of Wuhan on Thursday to stop the epidemic’s spread. Moscow has been in talks with Beijing about evacuating its nationals from Wuhan and Hubei province.Infections have been reported in at least 16 other countries, but no deaths have occurred outside China.Some airlines have suspended flights to China, including British Airways, Lufthansa, Air Canada and American Airlines.https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/01/30/russia-closes-far-east-border-over-coronavirus-a69100
Murph Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Rumors are the virus came from a bio-warfare lab, and got loose.
BansheeOne Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 As in every pandemic. Remember, HIV was designed by the US Army or something.
Ssnake Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Spread by water melons, sold by Israeli stripper assassins.
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