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That Taiwan/Nationalist China has shown that it will "absolutely not accept" Ing-wen as the chairwoman of her own political party does not inspire confidence in whether she still holds the credentials to speak for it, nevermind increase confidence in whether a clear consensus on the question of an independent Taiwan will ever emerge in the foreseeable future.

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That Taiwan/Nationalist China has shown that it will "absolutely not accept" Ing-wen as the chairwoman of her own political party does not inspire confidence in whether she still holds the credentials to speak for it, nevermind increase confidence in whether a clear consensus on the question of an independent Taiwan will ever emerge in the foreseeable future.

 

the problem is that the party was founded on the idea to return to mainland china. Hard to let go of that. though the younge generation does not give much about it anymore. Woth them joining politics now and more and more this will shift towards a declaration of independence recognizing the reality they already live in.

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Nice thing is that you are looking at stable and predictable power generation, which is hugely important to running a grid.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-leica-china-tiananmen-idUSKCN1RV0JG

 

'Tank man' video for Leica sparks outcry in China ahead of Tiananmen anniversary

 

BEIJING (Reuters) - Germany’s Leica Camera AG drew criticism on Chinese social media over a video depicting a news photographer covering the crackdown on pro-democracy protests in and around Beijing’s Tiananmen Square three decades ago.

The five-minute dramatization, released this week, touches on a highly sensitive topic in China. The ruling Communist Party has never declared how many people died in the crackdown and discussion of the incident is censored on social media.

The video shows the photographer hiding and running from Chinese-speaking policemen before taking a picture that has come to symbolize the protests - the “tank man” - a protester standing in front of a convoy of tanks to block their path. The video ends with the Leica logo.

The hashtag “Leica insulting China” surfaced on China’s Twitter-like Weibo late on Thursday, before being censored. Users left hundreds of comments on Leica’s official Weibo account criticizing the company for the video.

“Get out of China, you are done,” one user posted.

Others cheered the video as daring ahead of the 30th anniversary of the crackdown on June 4, but the majority of posts were scrubbed from Chinese social media by Friday and the comments section on two of its most recent Weibo posts were disabled.

Users were also prevented from posting messages using Leica’s English or Chinese name with warnings that they were violating laws, regulations or the Weibo community guidelines.

Leica did not respond to several calls and emails from Reuters seeking comment on the video, which included other dramatizations about news photography.

However, Leica spokeswoman Emily Anderson was quoted by Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post as saying the video was not an officially sanctioned marketing film commissioned by the firm.

“Leica Camera AG must therefore distance itself from the content shown in the video and regrets any misunderstandings or false conclusions that may have been drawn,” it quoted her as saying by email, adding that the firm had taken measures to not share the film on Leica’s social media channels.

The video was created by Brazilian ad agency F/Nazca Saatchi & Saatchi and published on its verified Twitter account on April 16 with a tweet in Portuguese that said: “Inspired by the stories of photographers who spare no effort so that everyone can witness reality, Leica pays tribute to these brave professionals.”

Advertising websites such as Ads of the World republished the video saying it was created for Leica.

Some netizens suggested the video could put pressure on Chinese telecoms equipment provider Huawei Technologies Co Ltd, which uses Leica lenses in its flagship high-end phones.

Huawei declined to comment while F/Nazca Saatchi & Saatchi, which has previously produced videos for Leica, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Several foreign companies have been tripped up by touching on certain topics that can provoke strong public reactions in China, including calls for boycotts.

Last year, companies ranging from Delta Air Lines to Muji were criticized by the Chinese government and netizens for the language they used to describe Taiwan, a self-ruled, democratic island that Beijing considers a wayward province.

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really, is there anything that doesn't insult China?

fuck them

Taking into account Weibo has over 445 million monthly active users, "hundreds of comments on Leica’s official Weibo account" is next to no reaction at all (less than some of the threads on This Great Forum). Still, it was obviously mistake by Saatchi & Saatchi (who are supposed to take care of their clients positive image on all markets, including massive market of China). This mistakes happen from time to time and every man in advertising business are aware of them, as images positive in one country are negative in other (like Che Guevara, popular culture icon, is hardly positive for Cuban migrants in USA - while his image misused in questionable adverts may not please Cuban Cubans https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1351869/Che-Guevara-sullied-by-vodka-advert-claims-photographer.html)No reason to think Chinese are more sensitive than others (at least, in this particular case trheir reaction is modest). After all, CNN was using image of tanks shooting on White House in Moscow in 1993 as advert for years, as well as Iraq and Yugoslavia bombings....

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So, how often do we mention Leica in normal business here?

 

Maybe it doesn't work for China, but it certainly worked here.

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Official China Global Television Network video for the October 1st military parade rehearsal with the music playing being "Joy to the World"...

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Just another stepping stone in what is perhaps the single most disturbing trend in our time -- I can't believe the power grab in China isn't one of the most trending issues. This sort of thing, instituting social credit scores, and all but eliminating the ability to privately communicate or discuss thoughts and ideas (including outlawing VPN use) sets an unbelievably dangerous precident, lays the foundation tyranny and is only a matter of time before it starts seeping into the west.


https://www.theepochtimes.com/beijing-launches-new-rule-residents-must-pass-facial-recognition-test-to-surf-internet_3099181.html?fbclid=IwAR0260Su--pPBgMDMI0ekYpJU1ZnIyvJIrrziYwbZAXPkqIjFDRTn6OfU-4

 

Beijing Launches New Rule: Residents Must Pass Facial Recognition Test to Surf Internet
By Nicole Hao
October 1, 2019 Updated: October 2, 2019
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The Chinese regime announced a new rule which requires residents to pass a facial recognition test in order to apply for an internet connection via smartphone or computer.

The rule will be implemented from Dec. 1, 2019. In addition, no cell phone or landline number can be transferred to another person privately.

This is an upgraded restriction after the Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) required all applicants to present a valid ID and personal information to register for a cell phone or a landline number since January 2015.
New Rule

MIIT published the new rule on its official website and distributed it to all telecom carriers on Sept. 27, which includes three main requests.

First, all telecom carriers must use facial recognition to test whether an applicant who applies for internet connection is the owner of the ID that they use since Dec. 1. At the same time, the carriers must test that the ID is genuine and valid.

Second, all telecom carriers must upgrade their service’s terms and conditions and notify all their customers that they are not allowed to transfer or resell their cell phone SIM card to another person by the end of November 2019.

Third, telecom carriers should help their customers to check whether there are cell phone or landline numbers that don’t belong to them but registered under their names since Dec. 1. For unidentified numbers, the telecom carries must investigate and close the lines immediately.

MIIT said in the notice that it will arrange for supervisors to check each telecom carrier’s performance, and will arrange inspections to make sure all carriers will follow the rule strictly.
Purpose

“The reason why the Chinese regime asks people to register their real identities to surf the internet is because it wants to control people’s speech,” U.S.-based commentator Tang Jingyuan told The Epoch Times on Sept. 27.

Authorities arrested hundreds of Chinese people in recent years because they posted a topic that the regime deemed sensitive, including the most recent Hong Kong protests.

“MIIT’s new rule on using facial recognition to identify an internet user means the government can easily track their online activities, including their social media posts and websites they visit,” Tang said.“Then these people become scared of sharing their real opinions online because their comments could anger the authorities and they could get arrested for it.”

Tang concluded: “I think MIIT’s new rule takes away freedom of speech from Chinese people completely.”
Facial Recognition in China

The Chinese regime has used facial recognition systems to monitor people for several years now.

In cities and public spaces such as train stations, airports, government buildings, and entrances of museums, police use smart glasses to check each passerby’s identity and whether they have a criminal record.

On the streets, millions of surveillance cameras capture and track people’s movements.

At crosswalks, facial recognition systems record jaywalkers, who are then fined 20 yuan ($2.81), and docked points on their social credit score. The Chinese regime’s social credit system assigns each citizen a score of social “trustworthiness.” A person with a low social credit score may not be allowed to board a train or airplane, or their child may not be admitted to a reputable school.

Inside classrooms, facial recognition technology monitors each student and reports their actions to the teacher and parents.

Even inside public restrooms, tourists and residents have to use facial recognition system to get toilet paper.

The Chinese regime hopes to install enough surveillance cameras to cover the entire country.

According to the latest report of U.S. based market research firm IDC, China spent $10.6 billion on video surveillance equipment in 2018, and spending will reach $20.1 billion in 2023. 64.3 percent of the spending in 2018 accounted for surveillance cameras.

IDC reported on Jan. 30 that it predicted China would have 2.76 billion surveillance cameras installed in 2022.

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I can't believe the power grab in China isn't one of the most trending issues. This sort of thing, instituting social credit scores, and all but eliminating the ability to privately communicate or discuss thoughts and ideas (including outlawing VPN use) ... lays the foundation tyranny and is only a matter of time before it starts seeping into the west.

 

a. it's not a "power grab" if you already are a tyranny in power

b. it's not the foundation of a coming tyranny in China when they already are one

c. I'm unconvinced about the inevitability of it seeping into the west

 

That's not to say that I would doubt for a second that some are dreaming of this; that's where citizen's rights and liberties meet the demanding duty of a vigilant and informed public.

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Just another stepping stone in what is perhaps the single most disturbing trend in our time -- I can't believe the power grab in China isn't one of the most trending issues. This sort of thing, instituting social credit scores, and all but eliminating the ability to privately communicate or discuss thoughts and ideas (including outlawing VPN use) sets an unbelievably dangerous precident, lays the foundation tyranny and is only a matter of time before it starts seeping into the west.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/beijing-launches-new-rule-residents-must-pass-facial-recognition-test-to-surf-internet_3099181.html?fbclid=IwAR0260Su--pPBgMDMI0ekYpJU1ZnIyvJIrrziYwbZAXPkqIjFDRTn6OfU-4

 

 

 

Beijing Launches New Rule: Residents Must Pass Facial Recognition Test to Surf Internet

By Nicole Hao

October 1, 2019 Updated: October 2, 2019

Share

 

 

 

The Chinese regime announced a new rule which requires residents to pass a facial recognition test in order to apply for an internet connection via smartphone or computer.

The rule will be implemented from Dec. 1, 2019. In addition, no cell phone or landline number can be transferred to another person privately.

This is an upgraded restriction after the Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) required all applicants to present a valid ID and personal information to register for a cell phone or a landline number since January 2015.

New Rule

MIIT published the new rule on its official website and distributed it to all telecom carriers on Sept. 27, which includes three main requests.

First, all telecom carriers must use facial recognition to test whether an applicant who applies for internet connection is the owner of the ID that they use since Dec. 1. At the same time, the carriers must test that the ID is genuine and valid.

Second, all telecom carriers must upgrade their service’s terms and conditions and notify all their customers that they are not allowed to transfer or resell their cell phone SIM card to another person by the end of November 2019.

Third, telecom carriers should help their customers to check whether there are cell phone or landline numbers that don’t belong to them but registered under their names since Dec. 1. For unidentified numbers, the telecom carries must investigate and close the lines immediately.

MIIT said in the notice that it will arrange for supervisors to check each telecom carrier’s performance, and will arrange inspections to make sure all carriers will follow the rule strictly.

Purpose

“The reason why the Chinese regime asks people to register their real identities to surf the internet is because it wants to control people’s speech,” U.S.-based commentator Tang Jingyuan told The Epoch Times on Sept. 27.

Authorities arrested hundreds of Chinese people in recent years because they posted a topic that the regime deemed sensitive, including the most recent Hong Kong protests.

“MIIT’s new rule on using facial recognition to identify an internet user means the government can easily track their online activities, including their social media posts and websites they visit,” Tang said.“Then these people become scared of sharing their real opinions online because their comments could anger the authorities and they could get arrested for it.”

Tang concluded: “I think MIIT’s new rule takes away freedom of speech from Chinese people completely.”

Facial Recognition in China

The Chinese regime has used facial recognition systems to monitor people for several years now.

In cities and public spaces such as train stations, airports, government buildings, and entrances of museums, police use smart glasses to check each passerby’s identity and whether they have a criminal record.

On the streets, millions of surveillance cameras capture and track people’s movements.

At crosswalks, facial recognition systems record jaywalkers, who are then fined 20 yuan ($2.81), and docked points on their social credit score. The Chinese regime’s social credit system assigns each citizen a score of social “trustworthiness.” A person with a low social credit score may not be allowed to board a train or airplane, or their child may not be admitted to a reputable school.

Inside classrooms, facial recognition technology monitors each student and reports their actions to the teacher and parents.

Even inside public restrooms, tourists and residents have to use facial recognition system to get toilet paper.

The Chinese regime hopes to install enough surveillance cameras to cover the entire country.

According to the latest report of U.S. based market research firm IDC, China spent $10.6 billion on video surveillance equipment in 2018, and spending will reach $20.1 billion in 2023. 64.3 percent of the spending in 2018 accounted for surveillance cameras.

IDC reported on Jan. 30 that it predicted China would have 2.76 billion surveillance cameras installed in 2022.

 

Check out the rush of westerners making their thoughts known here.

http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42580&do=findComment&comment=1313685

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I can't believe the power grab in China isn't one of the most trending issues. This sort of thing, instituting social credit scores, and all but eliminating the ability to privately communicate or discuss thoughts and ideas (including outlawing VPN use) ... lays the foundation tyranny and is only a matter of time before it starts seeping into the west.

a. it's not a "power grab" if you already are a tyranny in power

b. it's not the foundation of a coming tyranny in China when they already are one

c. I'm unconvinced about the inevitability of it seeping into the west

 

That's not to say that I would doubt for a second that some are dreaming of this; that's where citizen's rights and liberties meet the demanding duty of a vigilant and informed public.

Participation in the West's credit score system was never as voluntary as it was enabled by default. Private sector ownership is no guarantee of intentions either, unfortunately.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7528217/13-5-tonnes-gold-worth-520-million-corrupt-Chinese-officials-home.html

 

A powerful Communist official in China is suspected to have received 13.5 tonnes of gold and £30 billion cash in bribes.

Thousands of golden bars and bricks were discovered at the leader's home during a raid by corruption inspectors earlier this month.

Their value could be worth up to £520 million, according to international trading prices.

Zhang Qi, 58, who was a top official in the province of Hainan has been sacked.

In addition to the gold, inspectors discovered 268 billion yuan (£30 billion) in suspected bribes on the man's account, according to reports.

He was also thought to have received multiple luxurious villas as perks.

If Mr Zhang's alleged corruption turns out to be true, he would have been richer than Jack Ma, the wealthiest man in China worth $37 billion (£30 billion) according to Forbes.

Mr Zhang was the secretary of the Communist Party Committee of Haikou, the provincial capital city of Hainan with a population around nine million people.

He had equal power as the city's mayor, according to the ranking of Chinese Communist party officials.

He was also a member of the Standing Committee of Hainan Province.

He has been stripped of both titles by the Commission for Discipline Inspection of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China.

Hoffman's were digging in the wrong place. :D

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DreamWorks Animation made a children's movie called "Abominable" as a joint-project with a Shanghai based Chinese movie company called Pearl Studio. It premiered on Vietnamese screens. It has a scene showing the 9 dash line. Vietnam and the Philippines were critical of CCP propaganda going into a kids movie made by an American studio.

9dashkids.jpg

 

 

 

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — The cash-craving executives at DreamWorks have seen fit to include China's fictitious "nine-dash line" in its latest animated film "Abominable," taking great pains to include Taiwan within the fabricated dashes, spurring Vietnam to yank the film from its theaters.

In the latest example of Hollywood censoring itself and bowing to the Chinese Communist Party's (CCP) every command for the sake of a few extra Renminbi, DreamWorks in a joint production with Shanghai-based Pearl Studio bizarrely included a scene showing a map of Asia with an exaggerated version of the nine-dash line. The map comes complete with a depiction of Taiwan enclosed by what is technically the latest "10-dash line" issued by Beijing in 2013.

UN tribunals have on repeated occasions ruled against the territorial claims that China calls the "cow’s tongue" or the nine-dash line, a presumptuous assertion that the entire South China Sea is Chinese territory. As the line covers a vast swath of ocean just off the coast of Vietnam, the Southeast Asian nation, among others, disputes the validity of the boundary.

The film, which tells the tale of a Chinese girl who finds an abominable snowman on her roof, first hit theaters in Vietnam on Oct. 4, and the controversial scene containing the map quickly drew the ire of Vietnamese audiences, who shared screenshots on social media. The Vietnamese government swiftly moved to yank the film from theaters with Ta Quang Dong, deputy minister of Culture, Sports and Tourism, announcing "We will revoke [the film's license]," according to the newspaper Thanh Nien.

Nguyen Thu Ha, the head of Vietnam's Cinema Department, took the blame for missing the controversial scene, saying "I will claim responsibility" and promising that her department would be "more prudent in the future," reported Thanh Nien. Vietnamese moviegoers were incensed, with images of a red "X" scrawled over the nine-dash line map shared extensively on social media.

 

 

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3795980

 

 

 

MANILA, Philippines – Following the appearance of China’s 9-dash line in a DreamWorks children’s film, Philippine Foreign Secretary Teodoro “Teddyboy” Locsin Jr called for a "universal boycott" of the animation studio’s movies in the country.

"For me, call a universal boycott of all Dreamworks productions from here on," Locsin tweeted on Tuesday night, October 15.

The top diplomat issued the remarks after Vietnam revoked the license of children’s film Abominable on Monday, October 14, over objections to the use of China's 9-dash line. Photos of the now-controversial scene in the movie had circulated online with social media users quick to point out the appearance of a map which depicted China’s infamous U-shaped line in the South China Sea.

China uses the 9-dash line on its maps as an attempt to legitimize its claims over vast expanses of the resource-rich South China Sea, now considered to be one of the most volatile maritime areas in the world.

The film was a joint production between DreamWorks and China's Pearl Studio, which told the story of a Chinese teenager helping a yeti return to his home on Mount Everest.

Like Vietnam, the Philippines has claims in the South China Sea which China refused to recognize. This, despite a historic 2016 Hague ruling which asserted the Philippines’ rights in the West Philippine Sea and invalidated China’s 9-dash line. Other claimant states include Taiwan, Malaysia, and Brunei.

Making a statement: In the same tweet, Locsin proposed to cut out the scene entirely while he sought the opinion of experts on grounds to possibly ban the film in the Philippines. Abominable though opened in theatres here on October 2.

Maritime law expert Jay Batongbacal – one of the Philippines’ foremost experts on the West Philippine Sea – said while he agreed banning the film could be a “slippery slope,” the Philippines should still push back against China’s “propaganda tactics.”

"If allowed to be shown without [the] offending portion, [a] call for boycott should still be made as a strong statement against such tactics, also so as to not contribute to CN (China's) coffers by seeing the movie," Batongbacal said.

Doing so, he added, would also send a message to US comapanies partnering with "Chinese propagandists to stop enabling such moves."

Under Presidential Decree 1986, the Movie and Television Review and Classification Board (MTRCB) has the power to require the deletion of film portions for reasons such as being "injurious to the prestige of the...Philippines or its people."

Despite this, Batongbacal said the Department of Foreign Affairs may recommend such action, which can be complemented by public clamor to protest the said portion of the film.

 

https://www.rappler.com/nation/242655-locsin-wants-dreamworks-boycott-abominable-movie

 

Went to look for a trailer for it, one uploaded in May, and its got the 9 dash line map which also includes Taiwan at 0:17.

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The Republic of Chinese/Taiwanese were probably just fine with the depiction of the dashed line in the SCS, however.

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The Republic of Chinese/Taiwanese were probably just fine with the depiction of the dashed line in the SCS, however.

This is one of your troll points, always exaggerating the degree of Pro-Beijing in Taiwan.

 

Not Taiwan's fault that China is one of 5 permanant members on the UNSC or that China was allowed into the WTO.

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The Republic of Chinese/Taiwanese were probably just fine with the depiction of the dashed line in the SCS, however.

This is one of your troll points, always exaggerating the degree of Pro-Beijing in Taiwan.

 

Not Taiwan's fault that China is one of 5 permanant members on the UNSC or that China was allowed into the WTO.

Wasnt Taiwan one of the founding members of the UN, and in fact only lost its status as a nation due to China using their leverage and resources to strong arm nations into declaring it not a country anymore?

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The Republic of Chinese/Taiwanese were probably just fine with the depiction of the dashed line in the SCS, however.

This is one of your troll points, always exaggerating the degree of Pro-Beijing in Taiwan.

Not Taiwan's fault that China is one of 5 permanant members on the UNSC or that China was allowed into the WTO.

Wasnt Taiwan one of the founding members of the UN, and in fact only lost its status as a nation due to China using their leverage and resources to strong arm nations into declaring it not a country anymore?

The weak KMT was unfit for permanant UNSC role to begin with.

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The Republic of Chinese/Taiwanese were probably just fine with the depiction of the dashed line in the SCS, however.

This is one of your troll points, always exaggerating the degree of Pro-Beijing in Taiwan.

 

Not Taiwan's fault that China is one of 5 permanant members on the UNSC or that China was allowed into the WTO.

Wasnt Taiwan one of the founding members of the UN, and in fact only lost its status as a nation due to China using their leverage and resources to strong arm nations into declaring it not a country anymore?

It was indeed, and over the course of its permanent membership on the Security Council, it is interesting that it never got around to renouncing its claim to what the current government of China claims now.

 

Chinese birds of a feather and all that.

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