Nerve Agent Attack In Britain.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Yeah, id vote for cheap beer and a dmz on south Thanet. Clearly considered policies.

[Roman Alymov]

 

Craig Murray asking more questions about photos of "suspects"

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/09/the-impossible-photo/

I see you are parroting the Russian media line that the photos must be fake as they both can't have been going through the same gate at the same time. Has it not occurred to you that there could be more than one gate? Look closely at the pictures and you will see that the camera angles are different. Look at the vertical lines on the wall, they are different in relation to the time stamp. Look at the right hand gate, one is more open than the other.

 

As to them comming through the separate gates at the same time being impossible, well have you ever seen professional soldiers walking together at a reasonable pace. They will always walk in step (it's very hard not to after years of having to) with the same pace length and time. If they started walking together they will end up at the end at the same time together.

As you are probably too busy to read the link before commenting on it, let me quote few lines for your convenience:

"A number of people have pointed out a third logical possibility, that the photographs are not of the same place and they are coming through different though completely identical entry channels. The problem with that is the extreme synchronicity. You can see from the photos that the channel(s) are enclosed and quite long, and they would have had to enter different entrances to the channels. So it is remarkable they were at exactly the same point at the same time. Especially as one of them appears to be holding (wheeled?) luggage and one has only a shoulder bag."

[Stuart Galbraith]

Debate underway in the UN. Everyone seems to agree with us so far.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Russian Ambassador to the UN accuses Western Nations of creating a 'post truth world'. Oh the hilarity. I nearly laughed up my left kidney, I really did.

[Roman Alymov]

They visited Salisbury twice by train in 2 days if I heard correctly. Now they aren't business men because they dress like drunks. So unless there was a really good pub or just maybe from my own experience, a really excellent second hand books shop in Salisbury, this is suspicious behaviour by itself.

Stamps are the choice of GRU

https://www.google.ru/maps/@51.0693862,-1.7999147,3a,75y,69.97h,77.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqsJWFcYyPzD_99k4vpIXqQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.facebook.com/oleg.chistov.1/videos/1664651986978027/

[Stuart Galbraith]

Only 500 feet away from where the Skripals were found poisoned if you didnt notice.

 

Russian ambassador accuses Novichok of being 'mythical', but apparently its also made in Porton Down. I guess thats whats called ticking all the boxes.

[Briganza]

 

 

Craig Murray asking more questions about photos of "suspects"

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/09/the-impossible-photo/

I see you are parroting the Russian media line that the photos must be fake as they both can't have been going through the same gate at the same time. Has it not occurred to you that there could be more than one gate? Look closely at the pictures and you will see that the camera angles are different. Look at the vertical lines on the wall, they are different in relation to the time stamp. Look at the right hand gate, one is more open than the other.

 

As to them comming through the separate gates at the same time being impossible, well have you ever seen professional soldiers walking together at a reasonable pace. They will always walk in step (it's very hard not to after years of having to) with the same pace length and time. If they started walking together they will end up at the end at the same time together.

As you are probably too busy to read the link before commenting on it, let me quote few lines for your convenience:

"A number of people have pointed out a third logical possibility, that the photographs are not of the same place and they are coming through different though completely identical entry channels. The problem with that is the extreme synchronicity. You can see from the photos that the channel(s) are enclosed and quite long, and they would have had to enter different entrances to the channels. So it is remarkable they were at exactly the same point at the same time. Especially as one of them appears to be holding (wheeled?) luggage and one has only a shoulder bag."

 

You are probably too busy to read the second paragraph before commenting. I covered that and as you probably never spent much time in uniform you wouldn't understand. 20 years later I still can't walk over a grass corner.

[glenn239]

Stuart I guess thats whats called ticking all the boxes.

 

 

All the boxes except the one marked, "What are you going to do about it?"

Edited September 6, 2018 by glenn239

[Roman Alymov]

Only 500 feet away from where the Skripals were found poisoned if you didnt notice.

 

So miles away from where they are accused if covering door handle with poison, if we stick to official UK version The distance Skripals were going by car, as far as i remember - so how this "Russian agents" reached there, on foot? What was the need for them to be in central part of the city - creating more CCTV images for UK media to show?

 

By the way are this two "Russian couple 'caught on CCTV in Salisbury moments before Skripal's attacked' as described in 15 March 2018 article?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5503151/Police-probing-Russians-caught-CCTV-Skripal-poisoning.html

 

 

Russian ambassador accuses Novichok of being 'mythical', but apparently its also made in Porton Down. I guess thats whats called ticking all the boxes.

Quite logical - as "Novichok" is Western media name, so it is 'mythical' for Russia as this name means nothing - was discussed here many times. And quite logical to believe poisonous substance was made by specialized UK organisation, as it is promptly found when needed by UK officials in quantity needed to fit their demands.

[Briganza]

 

Stuart I guess thats whats called ticking all the boxes.

 

 

All the boxes except the one marked, "What are you going to do about it?"

 

What would you like them to do?

 

Not being cast from the Russian mould the UK is unlikely to start killing innocent Russians (or even guilty ones for that matter).

 

Probably start identifying money and property that belong to Putin's friends and supporters and putting it beyond reach. Making it difficult for his Friends to travel outside Russia. The second tranche of sanction imposed by the US should be comming online soon and getting the EU to follow in the US's footsteps may also be the next step.

[Roman Alymov]

 

 

 

Craig Murray asking more questions about photos of "suspects"

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/09/the-impossible-photo/

I see you are parroting the Russian media line that the photos must be fake as they both can't have been going through the same gate at the same time. Has it not occurred to you that there could be more than one gate? Look closely at the pictures and you will see that the camera angles are different. Look at the vertical lines on the wall, they are different in relation to the time stamp. Look at the right hand gate, one is more open than the other.

 

As to them comming through the separate gates at the same time being impossible, well have you ever seen professional soldiers walking together at a reasonable pace. They will always walk in step (it's very hard not to after years of having to) with the same pace length and time. If they started walking together they will end up at the end at the same time together.

As you are probably too busy to read the link before commenting on it, let me quote few lines for your convenience:

"A number of people have pointed out a third logical possibility, that the photographs are not of the same place and they are coming through different though completely identical entry channels. The problem with that is the extreme synchronicity. You can see from the photos that the channel(s) are enclosed and quite long, and they would have had to enter different entrances to the channels. So it is remarkable they were at exactly the same point at the same time. Especially as one of them appears to be holding (wheeled?) luggage and one has only a shoulder bag."

 

You are probably too busy to read the second paragraph before commenting. I covered that and as you probably never spent much time in uniform you wouldn't understand. 20 years later I still can't walk over a grass corner.

 

Again, it was addressed in initial link: "The problem with that is the extreme synchronicity. You can see from the photos that the channel(s) are enclosed and quite long, and they would have had to enter different entrances to the channels. So it is remarkable they were at exactly the same point at the same time. Especially as one of them appears to be holding (wheeled?) luggage and one has only a shoulder bag"

"20 years later I still can't walk over a grass corner" - how about walking with your hands in pockets?

Your claim that people who are described as agents under cover march like drill team is very strange, especially taking into account they are not even close to doing it on other images.

[Roman Alymov]

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The gates

[Mistral]

 

 

Stuart I guess thats whats called ticking all the boxes.

 

 

All the boxes except the one marked, "What are you going to do about it?"

 

What would you like them to do?

 

Not being cast from the Russian mould the UK is unlikely to start killing innocent Russians (or even guilty ones for that matter).

 

Probably start identifying money and property that belong to Putin's friends and supporters and putting it beyond reach. Making it difficult for his Friends to travel outside Russia. The second tranche of sanction imposed by the US should be comming online soon and getting the EU to follow in the US's footsteps may also be the next step.

 

 

Well at the next NATO summit the UK should ask for the charter to be changed from an attack on a member to something more quantitative because we have seen that an actual attack with WMDs with dead is not enough to get NATO off its ass. Or the UK for that matter.

They should put a number like after x thousand dead will we take military action, if its less don't bother us.

 

Heck, less than 15 years ago you went to war because Iraq could deploy WMDs in less than half an hour, and now with actual deployment in the UK nada.

[Briganza]

Your own picture disproves your point, the doors are offset from each other and so one must have gone faster than the other to reach the doors at the same time. It is not a long corridor, 5m at most.

[Roman Alymov]

Your own picture disproves your point, the doors are offset from each other and so one must have gone faster than the other to reach the doors at the same time. It is not a long corridor, 5m at most.

Probably you missed my point. There is no need for two people to reach some point in separate corridors at the same time, especially without visual contact. Yes it is possible with some training (like honorary guards or synchronized swimmers do) or by very unlikely coincidence, but it is adding one more question to already mounting list of questions to UK versions (or media speculations). Time mark added later is much easier explanation.

[Briganza]

 

 

 

Stuart I guess thats whats called ticking all the boxes.

 

 

All the boxes except the one marked, "What are you going to do about it?"

 

What would you like them to do?

 

Not being cast from the Russian mould the UK is unlikely to start killing innocent Russians (or even guilty ones for that matter).

 

Probably start identifying money and property that belong to Putin's friends and supporters and putting it beyond reach. Making it difficult for his Friends to travel outside Russia. The second tranche of sanction imposed by the US should be comming online soon and getting the EU to follow in the US's footsteps may also be the next step.

 

 

Well at the next NATO summit the UK should ask for the charter to be changed from an attack on a member to something more quantitative because we have seen that an actual attack with WMDs with dead is not enough to get NATO off its ass. Or the UK for that matter.

They should put a number like after x thousand dead will we take military action, if its less don't bother us.

 

Heck, less than 15 years ago you went to war because Iraq could deploy WMDs in less than half an hour, and now with actual deployment in the UK nada.

 

Making it too rigid also defeats the object, 999 it's no 1000 yes. When they came up with the requirement I think they thought that the USSR would be rolling over the IGB and so fight back. NATO is not in the position to invade. NATO rolling over the border going east would make all Putin's dreams come true. Removing his bangles and those his friends have stolen would do him more harm.

 

It was 45mins to be accurate and I thought that was rubbish. We went because the US wanted us to and Blair saw his moment in history. He got it but not in the way he wanted it.

[Briganza]

 

Your own picture disproves your point, the doors are offset from each other and so one must have gone faster than the other to reach the doors at the same time. It is not a long corridor, 5m at most.

Probably you missed my point. There is no need for two people to reach some point in separate corridors at the same time, especially without visual contact. Yes it is possible with some training (like honorary guards or synchronized swimmers do) or by very unlikely coincidence, but it is adding one more question to already mounting list of questions to UK versions (or media speculations). Time mark added later is much easier explanation.

 

Total bollocks, you have never been a soldier have you.

 

 

You are fixated on one thing and ignoring all the other evidence.

[Roman Alymov]

 

If they dressed like that in my local pub, they would get thrown out. They would have blended in better if they had worn a pointed head hat and tinfoil suits, making 'Beep Beep' noises.

I can't argue with you about your pub (surely you know better), but my personal experience of visiting London in November, as well as photos of London crowd are making me to think your pub must be very special place

 

P.S. Takning into account your “ ive not been in a pub for a good 10 years” (http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=43141&p=1367304) I’m afraid you need to refresh your ideas about pub goers our days (just went there down the thread to see what was official version in the dates when, as now UK officials say, “Novichok” traces were already found in hotel room)

[Roman Alymov]

 

 

Your own picture disproves your point, the doors are offset from each other and so one must have gone faster than the other to reach the doors at the same time. It is not a long corridor, 5m at most.

Probably you missed my point. There is no need for two people to reach some point in separate corridors at the same time, especially without visual contact. Yes it is possible with some training (like honorary guards or synchronized swimmers do) or by very unlikely coincidence, but it is adding one more question to already mounting list of questions to UK versions (or media speculations). Time mark added later is much easier explanation.

 

Total bollocks, you have never been a soldier have you.

 

 

You are fixated on one thing and ignoring all the other evidence.

 

As I have repeatedly told here, my formal military experience is limited to officer courses in my university years (and we were newer subject of too much drills as we were trained as ICBM launch operators). Still your claims that “secret agents” or tourists walk like drill team through airport gates is very strange - as for me it is overstretch, especially as we know from other images they are not even close to military-style walking.

 

And no, I am not “fixated on one thing and ignoring all the other evidence” (as, first, I see no verifiable facts that could be “evidence” at all published and, second, it is just curious fact about one of the photos - and for some reason you decided to make big deal out of it trying to convince me it is military marching etc.)

[JWB]

[Roman Alymov]

 

Looks like combination of this

and inhalation nozle

[glenn239]

 

Your own picture disproves your point, the doors are offset from each other and so one must have gone faster than the other to reach the doors at the same time. It is not a long corridor, 5m at most.

Probably you missed my point. There is no need for two people to reach some point in separate corridors at the same time, especially without visual contact. Yes it is possible with some training (like honorary guards or synchronized swimmers do) or by very unlikely coincidence, but it is adding one more question to already mounting list of questions to UK versions (or media speculations). Time mark added later is much easier explanation.

 

 

Who are these guys then, if not the people the UK claims them to be?

[JWB]

They look the same but are not. Items in upper photos are counterfeit.

[Roman Alymov]

 

 

Who are these guys then, if not the people the UK claims them to be?

 

It is the question for UK officials to answer – as in line with visa process they get more information about each person applying for UK visa than average girlfriend know about her boyfriend (and not only based on their words or form filled in, but with documents from their workplace, bank\income documents, internal passport copy and so on). Probably we will see UK posting this papers one after another until November to support another US sanctions campaign (or prevent Trump not implementing this sanctions).

[Roman Alymov]

They look the same but are not. Items in upper photos are counterfeit.

Better image