Nerve Agent Attack In Britain.

[Coldsteel]

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See, you have to ask the question how much the assassin knew. Its the worlds newest and most lethal nerve agent, you smuggle it through airport security without a backward glance, and the same person (or an accomplice) squirts it on the door without a benefit of a noddy suit.

 

At this point you wonder if the FSB has a suicide squad.

 

Why would a Russian nerve agent be sent through airport security when it could enter the UK in a diplomatic pouch?

 

Well what if it leaked? Much safer to have it transported by someone as carry on baggage.

[Stuart Galbraith]

I cant think of a reason why they would put it in a perfume bottle if it went in the diplomatic bag. Nobody would see it. And why would you change the bottle when you got to the UK? Its hardly likely they would be stopped by the police for carrying a suspicious looking bottle.

 

If it was in a perfume bottle, the suspicion has to be it was in a woman's make up bag as part of the carry on luggage. I cannot think of another reason for it to be in that configuration. I mean there well be, im just not smart enough to think of one.

[Marek Tucan]

Or in a box as a gift. Diplomatic bag would probably bring more scrutiny and contact with the embassy staff who may be under surveillance... Private citizen bringing in gift-wrapped perfume? No problem at all.

[glenn239]

Or in a box as a gift. Diplomatic bag would probably bring more scrutiny and contact with the embassy staff who may be under surveillance... Private citizen bringing in gift-wrapped perfume? No problem at all.

 

Yes, that makes perfect sense. Why guarantee that the weapon will arrive in the UK in a diplomatic pouch undetected when you can introduce a 1% chance of catastrophe by trying to smuggle it through airport security instead? If you drop a glass perfume bottle on airport concrete - it breaks right?

 

Maybe whoever smuggled this into Britain didn't have access to a diplomatic pouch?

Edited July 18, 2018 by glenn239

[Marek Tucan]

Dunno, carried a lot ofore fragile things on normal luggage without them getting broken. On the other hand... Having British counterintelligence spot your embassy driver giving something to a person unknown before the attack would be pretty risky. Nobody notices tourists.

[Rick]

Personally I wonder why the British don't put a "special" spilt bottle of Beefeater's Gin say, in the Kremlin or Lenin's tomb.

[Simon Tan]

Because they are incompetent.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Or in a box as a gift. Diplomatic bag would probably bring more scrutiny and contact with the embassy staff who may be under surveillance... Private citizen bringing in gift-wrapped perfume? No problem at all.

 

Quite possibly, although I think if you bring in something gift wrapped, it might bring more attention than it would if it was just put in an overnight bag. But yes, thats a possiblity too.

 

If you put it in a diplomatic bag, somebody might see an expensive perfume and try it out.

[DB]

Personally I wonder why the British don't put a "special" spilt bottle of Beefeater's Gin say, in the Kremlin or Lenin's tomb.

Because we don't want to kill foreign tourists?

Spilling an actual bottle of real perfume onto Putin's favourite riding bear would make more sense.

[Briganza]

 

Or in a box as a gift. Diplomatic bag would probably bring more scrutiny and contact with the embassy staff who may be under surveillance... Private citizen bringing in gift-wrapped perfume? No problem at all.

 

Yes, that makes perfect sense. Why guarantee that the weapon will arrive in the UK in a diplomatic pouch undetected when you can introduce a 1% chance of catastrophe by trying to smuggle it through airport security instead? If you drop a glass perfume bottle on airport concrete - it breaks right?

 

Maybe whoever smuggled this into Britain didn't have access to a diplomatic pouch?

 

You can travel through security with a 100ml bottle of perfume with no questions asked. Perfume bottles are robust as the contents of your No5 is very expensive. You are very unlikely to break it when dropped as floors in airports are not normally covered in concrete but some form of cushion coating to reduce noise. Perfume bottle (expensive ones) have very good seals as the contents are expensive.

 

Putting a NA in a perfume bottle to transport it was a stroke of genius, unfortunately it was given to a group of imbeciles.

 

I seem to remember that a lot of Russian trolls put up pictures of the perfume poison at the start which with reflection probably cause heart failure with a number of people who planned this murder. That line disappeared quite quickly. The new line is "how can you atomis a gel". It is beyond these people who pedel this line to understand that the gel could be inert and only used to ensure the NA stayed in place. The gel was then sprayed with NA from the perfume bottle.

 

If would imagine that Dawn either sniffed the contents before putting it on her wrists or sprayed it then took a sniff, taking it directly into her lungs.

[Roman Alymov]

Personally I wonder why the British don't put a "special" spilt bottle of Beefeater's Gin say, in the Kremlin or Lenin's tomb.

You are proposing UK to have nice little war against China after deliberately targeting Chinese tourists, who are 90% of people in this places?

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

 

Or in a box as a gift. Diplomatic bag would probably bring more scrutiny and contact with the embassy staff who may be under surveillance... Private citizen bringing in gift-wrapped perfume? No problem at all.

 

Yes, that makes perfect sense. Why guarantee that the weapon will arrive in the UK in a diplomatic pouch undetected when you can introduce a 1% chance of catastrophe by trying to smuggle it through airport security instead? If you drop a glass perfume bottle on airport concrete - it breaks right?

 

Maybe whoever smuggled this into Britain didn't have access to a diplomatic pouch?

 

You can travel through security with a 100ml bottle of perfume with no questions asked. Perfume bottles are robust as the contents of your No5 is very expensive. You are very unlikely to break it when dropped as floors in airports are not normally covered in concrete but some form of cushion coating to reduce noise. Perfume bottle (expensive ones) have very good seals as the contents are expensive.

 

Putting a NA in a perfume bottle to transport it was a stroke of genius, unfortunately it was given to a group of imbeciles.

 

I seem to remember that a lot of Russian trolls put up pictures of the perfume poison at the start which with reflection probably cause heart failure with a number of people who planned this murder. That line disappeared quite quickly. The new line is "how can you atomis a gel". It is beyond these people who pedel this line to understand that the gel could be inert and only used to ensure the NA stayed in place. The gel was then sprayed with NA from the perfume bottle.

 

If would imagine that Dawn either sniffed the contents before putting it on her wrists or sprayed it then took a sniff, taking it directly into her lungs.

 

 

I can imagine a Russian Q, proudly handing it to a Russian 007, who proceeds to juggle it.

 

The local news suggests the police think she sprayed it on her arm and her neck. Apparently they found some on her face, which may explain how Charlie Rowley got cross contaminated.

[Harold Jones]

Dunno, carried a lot ofore fragile things on normal luggage without them getting broken. On the other hand... Having British counterintelligence spot your embassy driver giving something to a person unknown before the attack would be pretty risky. Nobody notices tourists.

I brought a bottle of whiskey to the French I&I in my checked bag, and it arrived safe and sound. Come to think of it my aftershave bottle had no issues either and it was packed with far less care.

[Roman Alymov]

 

Or in a box as a gift. Diplomatic bag would probably bring more scrutiny and contact with the embassy staff who may be under surveillance... Private citizen bringing in gift-wrapped perfume? No problem at all.

 

Yes, that makes perfect sense. Why guarantee that the weapon will arrive in the UK in a diplomatic pouch undetected when you can introduce a 1% chance of catastrophe by trying to smuggle it through airport security instead? If you drop a glass perfume bottle on airport concrete - it breaks right?

 

Maybe whoever smuggled this into Britain didn't have access to a diplomatic pouch?

The very idea of bringing something out from Russia in perfume bottle is indicating poor knowledge of the situation. In fact one of the most common things Russians bringing home from abroad is perfumes, cosmetic products (including regular shampoo) and sometimes even household chemistry like washing powder etc. It is motivated by poor quality of international brands sold in Russia (produced in Russia or for Russia) while price in Russia is usually higher than in Europe. In addition, up to 1\3 of foreign perfumes sold in Russia are just fake. It is common knowledge for every Russian, and i am sure alarm bell will sound in customs officer head when he see Russian crossing the border into Europe carrying gift of some international perfume brand - not something like traditional vodka or caviar. Also, almost automatic action of every customs official (especially female, and females are overrepresented among them) would be to test\smell the perfume....

 

At this point, it is no way to know if drug addicts couple was really hit by substance from perfume bottle or it is another crazy British officials\media versions like flowers on the grave, car ventilation etc. before , but if we take it as true- it is potentially adding new colors to my version i proposed here http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=43141&p=1358881

 

" My version for you to play with: There was no agent with Yulia. Her father avoided going to airport (where he may be seen by other Russians arriving with this flight) but sent somebody - not to compromise his daughter (interesting behavior for men officially pardoned and already out of his original jail term). She and her father spent the next day together, and somewhere in process they were approached by somebody (for example, his father’s friend, another exiled Russian) who asked Yulia for small favor – take some kind of small gift or parcel to his friends or relatives back in Russia (“medicine for his child whom he\she himself is not able to visit as he is exiled by oppressive Putin’s regime, just like your father”). Then something went wrong – parcel leaked for some reason, releasing tiny amount of agent – enough to seriously harm Skripals and policemen (who may have picked up dropped parcel and put it in some kind of evidence bag or just pocket – note no information about ambulance team suffered serious damage – while they have to be in more close and prolonged contact with victims) but not enough to kill them on the place. Somebody have reacted to the situation very quickly (and it is strange for the case of two collapsed foreigners on the bench), parcel was removed, and that is it –all traces are gone. Organizing all this theater with cities cordoned and cars searched is not difficult – but it is just cover up operation."

 

Perfume is very typical gift to be brought to Russia (for reasons described above) and not subject of any limitations on entry to Russia (unlike medical products) - so it fits perfectly. Also it explains why Skripals were hit simultaneously while sitting on park bench (curious young girl Julia Skripal was unable to resist the temptation, opened and smelled the "perfume") - unlike official version of contact with door handle hours before, and many other strange things in this story. No need to invent magic gels of selective action, poisons taking hours to effect, mysterious ninja agents poisoning door handle and so on. The person who removed the "gift" from the scene was, probably, not instructed to dispose it in safe way, but just threw it away in some trash bin. Why it took 4 month to be found and "tested" again - no idea, my knowledge of UK trash disposal system is very poor.

 

Note content of even smallest perfume bottle is too much for assassination of single person if filled with substance "5-10 times stronger than VX" - so if we take this version for true, this "gift" was intended for some sort of mass killing\terrorist act like above mentioned spraying it in some hall ("in the Kremlin or Lenin's tomb").

 

Also mote "perfume bottle = female" theory is strange, as there are plenty of perfumes for men.

[Rick]

 

Personally I wonder why the British don't put a "special" spilt bottle of Beefeater's Gin say, in the Kremlin or Lenin's tomb.

You are proposing UK to have nice little war against China after deliberately targeting Chinese tourists, who are 90% of people in this places?

 

Not deadly old chap, just messy. For a long time. It appears strong-arm tactics is what Putin understands.

Edited July 18, 2018 by Rick

[Chris Werb]

 

 

 

 

Personally I wonder why the British don't put a "special" spilt bottle of Beefeater's Gin say, in the Kremlin or Lenin's tomb.

You are proposing UK to have nice little war against China after deliberately targeting Chinese tourists, who are 90% of people in this places?

Not deadly old chap, just messy. For a long time. It appears strong-arm tactics is what Putin understands.

So where does randomly poisoning tourists fit in with your version of Christianity Rick? It's been a long time since Sunday school for me, but I don't remember being taught that anything along the lines of "A random tourist for an eye" was OK.

[Briganza]

 

 

Or in a box as a gift. Diplomatic bag would probably bring more scrutiny and contact with the embassy staff who may be under surveillance... Private citizen bringing in gift-wrapped perfume? No problem at all.

Yes, that makes perfect sense. Why guarantee that the weapon will arrive in the UK in a diplomatic pouch undetected when you can introduce a 1% chance of catastrophe by trying to smuggle it through airport security instead? If you drop a glass perfume bottle on airport concrete - it breaks right?

 

Maybe whoever smuggled this into Britain didn't have access to a diplomatic pouch?

The very idea of bringing something out from Russia in perfume bottle is indicating poor knowledge of the situation.

You've never traveled abroad with your wife/girlfriend who takes they own perfume with them then. No dear don't bother taking that you can get some when we get there. That's going to go down like a lead balloon. When does customs search you bad on the way out. Security does that and they have bins for all the items over 100mls. A very nice side line in deodorant.

[Rick]

 

 

 

Personally I wonder why the British don't put a "special" spilt bottle of Beefeater's Gin say, in the Kremlin or Lenin's tomb.

You are proposing UK to have nice little war against China after deliberately targeting Chinese tourists, who are 90% of people in this places?

Not deadly old chap, just messy. For a long time. It appears strong-arm tactics is what Putin understands.

So where does randomly poisoning tourists fit in with your version of Christianity Rick? It's been a long time since Sunday school for me, but I don't remember being taught that anything along the lines of "A random tourist for an eye" was OK.

 

Not even hurtful old chap. No need for the physical harm your thinking. There are chemicals that can stain. There are chemicals that can emit rotten-egg smells. There are paints that rapidly dry, perfect for graffiti. Anti-Putin graffiti pictures, a stain that looks like Putin with a red circle and a line through it. Union Jack decals with aggressive adhesive. Balloons with a map of England on them. Cheap glass vials emitting skunk-like odors with a photo of Putin enclosed.

Moving on up, is there still that Cold War radio station that broadcasts anti-communism information? Expand it to television and social media. CD's, thumb drives, etc. that contain anti-Putin information/facts. Supporting anti-Putin groups seems like a good idea to me. Upping the ante, there are economic sanctions that are possible; such as not buying Russian exports and refusing international events to them.

 

I don't worry about foreign affairs as nearly much as many on this Grate Site do, but Russia is not the real threat to the U.S. Liberalism is the main threat to the U.S. Russia and China are way down the list. If the U.S., the U.K. and the rest of Europe is serious about Russia there are‹actions ‹that can be done if said countries are serious without the brutality Putin likes. From my view, Putin killed at least two British citizens and nothing of consequence is being done that I know of.

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

 

Or in a box as a gift. Diplomatic bag would probably bring more scrutiny and contact with the embassy staff who may be under surveillance... Private citizen bringing in gift-wrapped perfume? No problem at all.

Yes, that makes perfect sense. Why guarantee that the weapon will arrive in the UK in a diplomatic pouch undetected when you can introduce a 1% chance of catastrophe by trying to smuggle it through airport security instead? If you drop a glass perfume bottle on airport concrete - it breaks right?

 

Maybe whoever smuggled this into Britain didn't have access to a diplomatic pouch?

The very idea of bringing something out from Russia in perfume bottle is indicating poor knowledge of the situation. In fact one of the most common things Russians bringing home from abroad is perfumes, cosmetic products (including regular shampoo) and sometimes even household chemistry like washing powder etc. It is motivated by poor quality of international brands sold in Russia (produced in Russia or for Russia) while price in Russia is usually higher than in Europe. In addition, up to 1\3 of foreign perfumes sold in Russia are just fake. It is common knowledge for every Russian, and i am sure alarm bell will sound in customs officer head when he see Russian crossing the border into Europe carrying gift of some international perfume brand - not something like traditional vodka or caviar. Also, almost automatic action of every customs official (especially female, and females are overrepresented among them) would be to test\smell the perfume....

 

At this point, it is no way to know if drug addicts couple was really hit by substance from perfume bottle or it is another crazy British officials\media versions like flowers on the grave, car ventilation etc. before , but if we take it as true- it is potentially adding new colors to my version i proposed here http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=43141&p=1358881

 

" My version for you to play with: There was no agent with Yulia. Her father avoided going to airport (where he may be seen by other Russians arriving with this flight) but sent somebody - not to compromise his daughter (interesting behavior for men officially pardoned and already out of his original jail term). She and her father spent the next day together, and somewhere in process they were approached by somebody (for example, his father’s friend, another exiled Russian) who asked Yulia for small favor – take some kind of small gift or parcel to his friends or relatives back in Russia (“medicine for his child whom he\she himself is not able to visit as he is exiled by oppressive Putin’s regime, just like your father”). Then something went wrong – parcel leaked for some reason, releasing tiny amount of agent – enough to seriously harm Skripals and policemen (who may have picked up dropped parcel and put it in some kind of evidence bag or just pocket – note no information about ambulance team suffered serious damage – while they have to be in more close and prolonged contact with victims) but not enough to kill them on the place. Somebody have reacted to the situation very quickly (and it is strange for the case of two collapsed foreigners on the bench), parcel was removed, and that is it –all traces are gone. Organizing all this theater with cities cordoned and cars searched is not difficult – but it is just cover up operation."

 

Perfume is very typical gift to be brought to Russia (for reasons described above) and not subject of any limitations on entry to Russia (unlike medical products) - so it fits perfectly. Also it explains why Skripals were hit simultaneously while sitting on park bench (curious young girl Julia Skripal was unable to resist the temptation, opened and smelled the "perfume") - unlike official version of contact with door handle hours before, and many other strange things in this story. No need to invent magic gels of selective action, poisons taking hours to effect, mysterious ninja agents poisoning door handle and so on. The person who removed the "gift" from the scene was, probably, not instructed to dispose it in safe way, but just threw it away in some trash bin. Why it took 4 month to be found and "tested" again - no idea, my knowledge of UK trash disposal system is very poor.

 

Note content of even smallest perfume bottle is too much for assassination of single person if filled with substance "5-10 times stronger than VX" - so if we take this version for true, this "gift" was intended for some sort of mass killing\terrorist act like above mentioned spraying it in some hall ("in the Kremlin or Lenin's tomb").

 

Also mote "perfume bottle = female" theory is strange, as there are plenty of perfumes for men.

 

 

You are assuming 'she' came in direct from Russia. For all we know they came from intermediate nations, like the Baltics, or Poland or Ireland, just to make the trail less obvious or harder to follow. Dimitri Kovtun came in via Germany with the polonium IIRC for precisely this reason.

 

We dont call scent for men perfume much here, we usually relate it as aftershave. I mean yes, it may be a male scent, but that Rowley gave it to his girlfriend and didnt keep it for himself tends to indicate otherwise.

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

 

 

 

Personally I wonder why the British don't put a "special" spilt bottle of Beefeater's Gin say, in the Kremlin or Lenin's tomb.

You are proposing UK to have nice little war against China after deliberately targeting Chinese tourists, who are 90% of people in this places?

Not deadly old chap, just messy. For a long time. It appears strong-arm tactics is what Putin understands.

So where does randomly poisoning tourists fit in with your version of Christianity Rick? It's been a long time since Sunday school for me, but I don't remember being taught that anything along the lines of "A random tourist for an eye" was OK.

 

Not even hurtful old chap. No need for the physical harm your thinking. There are chemicals that can stain. There are chemicals that can emit rotten-egg smells. There are paints that rapidly dry, perfect for graffiti. Anti-Putin graffiti pictures, a stain that looks like Putin with a red circle and a line through it. Union Jack decals with aggressive adhesive. Balloons with a map of England on them. Cheap glass vials emitting skunk-like odors with a photo of Putin enclosed.

Moving on up, is there still that Cold War radio station that broadcasts anti-communism information? Expand it to television and social media. CD's, thumb drives, etc. that contain anti-Putin information/facts. Supporting anti-Putin groups seems like a good idea to me. Upping the ante, there are economic sanctions that are possible; such as not buying Russian exports and refusing international events to them.

 

I don't worry about foreign affairs as nearly much as many on this Grate Site do, but Russia is not the real threat to the U.S. Liberalism is the main threat to the U.S. Russia and China are way down the list. If the U.S., the U.K. and the rest of Europe is serious about Russia there are‹actions ‹that can be done if said countries are serious without the brutality Putin likes. From my view, Putin killed at least two British citizens and nothing of consequence is being done that I know of.

 

 

Wait until someone uses this crap in your country in some non contentious place, like Time Square, or Washington for example. You may think otherwise.

If you tolerate this, you will be next. Its that simple. You think the US will get dispensation just because of what it is? Pearl Harbour and WTC would indicate otherwise.

 

As for whats being done, we are implimenting a British Magnitsky act. But you can put down the slow pace of it to British Bureaucracy in action. I wouldnt be surprised if they only just got around to repealing the red flag to be carried in front of Automobiles.

 

 

No, im not in favour of using it on tourists or innocent people. But in my more lurid moments I think how much fun it would be to smear some of this over the saddle of Putins Presidential Harley Trike. To watch the hard man urinate himself and babble like an idiot in front of hard men has something of a poetic justice to it.

Edited July 19, 2018 by Stuart Galbraith

[Stuart Galbraith]

https://www.spirefm.co.uk/news/local-news/2636912/suspects-of-salisbury-nerve-agent-attack--identified/ Police are understood to have identified the suspected perpetrators of the Novichok attack on a former Russian spy and his daughter in our city in March.

According to the Press Association officers believe several Russians were involved in the attempted murder or Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia and say they are looking for more than one suspect.

"Investigators believe they have identified the suspected perpetrators of the Novichok attack through CCTV and have cross-checked this with records of people who entered the country around that time," a source close to the investigation said.

They said investigators were "sure" the suspects were Russian.

Scotland Yard, which is spearheading the investigation, declined to comment.

 

Sky's Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said:

"This would chime with the government's long-held belief that the Russian state was behind the attack on the Skripals, or at least had lost control of the nerve agent Novichok which scientists say is made only in Russia."

He said police had collected 5,000 hours of CCTV from the local area during the course of their enquiries.

"Those images would have been matched with CCTV taken from Heathrow Airport and any other airport within a few days of the attack,"

"That gives you an insight into the kind of meticulous and complex work that has been going on, and it may be that through that work police have come to the conclusion that they have found people who were around the Skripals' home on the 3rd or 4th of March and have been able to identify similar figures, or the same figures, getting on flights and perhaps going back to Russia."

The breakthrough comes as an inquest is due to open today (19th July) for Dawn Sturgess.

She and her partner Charlie Rowley fell victim to Novichok believed to be from the same batch as that used to target the Skripals in Amesbury.

Tests are still being carried out to confirm that.

Mum of three Dawn died earlier this month - eight days after being exposed to 10 times the amount of nerve agent the former spy and his daughter came into contact with.

Investigators believe the substance was in a discarded perfume bottle that the couple found.

Its thought Dawn sprayed the substance directly onto her skin.

Mr Rowley, 45, survived the incident and is still being treated in Salisbury District Hospital.

More than 400 exhibits, samples and items have been recovered by police investigating the poisoning of Mr Rowley and Ms Sturgess.

The government has continued to make clear it believes the Russian state was behind the attack on the Skripals.

Vladimir Putin and other senior Russian politicians have continued to deny any involvement in the poisonings.

 

 

It would all seem to spring from Charlie Rowley identifying the part where the Perfume was found, they watching that location through CCTV over the previous day when the attack was undertaken, et voila, several Russian hoods. The really impressive thing will be if they can trace their car and their mobile phone all the way back to Heathrow.

 

And believe me they can. Ive seen the results of technology that can do it.

[Marek Tucan]

Roman, I take it you never went through Duty Free stores on the way from Russia?

People bring all sorts of trophies, even just looking at colleagues travelling. To claim someone carrying perfume in luggage from Russia would be unusual is really just like saying nobody would carry wine to France (did do several times) or high grade alcohol to Russia etc.

 

Please try to find less absurd lines of defense, right now it looks a bit like "not a step back"

[Roman Alymov]

 

 

 

 

You are assuming 'she' came in direct from Russia. For all we know they came from intermediate nations, like the Baltics, or Poland or Ireland, just to make the trail less obvious or harder to follow. Dimitri Kovtun came in via Germany with the polonium IIRC for precisely this reason.

 

We dont call scent for men perfume much here, we usually relate it as aftershave. I mean yes, it may be a male scent, but that Rowley gave it to his girlfriend and didnt keep it for himself tends to indicate otherwise.

 

In the age of computer-based international databases and CCTV coverage it is only adding extra loops to jump through, without any practical effect. More luggage reloadings (with potential of it being damaged, lost or stolen each time), more security checks, more waiting in airports, more CCTV tapes - and no gains. The very idea of smuggling something in Europe in perfume bottle is faulty for reasons described above, in addition to that now some kind of "mixing with gel" proposed.... If people preparing this story really give themselves few minutes to think before releasing "perfume bottle" story to media, they surely would invent something more convenient - for example this

Tiny (smaller than smallest perfume bottle) , fit any pocket of both males and females, personal (no customs officer or random person would try other man's lipstick or pick it up on the street=easy to get rid of), safe and ready to use (no need to mix it with something, no need for gloves, no vapor) , single use (no need to carry few milliliters of poison - single drop of gel in the middle of lipstick is enough, well separated from outside air). Can't be broken or spilled. No need to create stories why it is needed to transport perfume out from Russia. Note i am not professional - i am sure professionals could invent something even more convenient than this.

Somebody arriving from Russia with bottle of perfume in gift wrap (or even opened one) is like somebody arriving to Russia with bottle of vodka. Yes one could invent story for this, but it is not common = suspicious.

Talks of some terror attacks inside Russia (even "not deadly") indicate our Gov is right when implementing tough security measures. There is strong reason for that. What about "Anti-Putin graffiti pictures" etc. - all this is done regularly by local nuts (like Pussy Riot or Pavlensky https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petr_Pavlensky ) - only adding to public support of our Gov policy.

[Roman Alymov]

Roman, I take it you never went through Duty Free stores on the way from Russia?

People bring all sorts of trophies, even just looking at colleagues travelling. To claim someone carrying perfume in luggage from Russia would be unusual is really just like saying nobody would carry wine to France (did do several times) or high grade alcohol to Russia etc.

 

Please try to find less absurd lines of defense, right now it looks a bit like "not a step back"

See above, "Somebody arriving from Russia with bottle of perfume in gift wrap (or even opened one) is like somebody arriving to Russia with bottle of vodka. Yes one could invent story for this, but it is not common = suspicious." No need to "defense", just showing how absurd is another UK version before they invent new one (like it was done with flowers on the grave, car ventilation system, porridge, something in Yulia Skripal's luggage surely planted by KGB agents in her Moscow flat and so on). We only need to wait until next Trump's visit or Brexit talks to see another "highly likely" version.

[MiloMorai]

So women don't travel with perfume in their luggage?