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No, they'll just deny any Russian government involvement and spin any number of conspiracy theories.

Meanwhile, the game of geopolitical hardball seems like it is going to intensify, and the pattern of targeting political dissidents and puppets will, if anything, increase.   

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"Truth" has become a malleable concept. But that works both ways. Nawalny's comment is certainly protected free speech, and that the one time that BILD actually reports truthfully (and gets sued over it by, of all people, Schröder) is just icing on the cake.

I, for one, hope for a drawn-out high profile mud slinging contest. It's not going to happen, but one can dream, right?

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Well Schröder's contention is that he wasn't given the chance to reply to Navalny's accusations in the interest of fair and balanced reporting. My general reaction is that's not how interviews work of course. Though I saw a commentary in the "Süddeutsche Zeitung" that he's well within his rights to sue, it just shows he has lost his political instincts in addition to his moral compass. That may just mean that anybody can sue over any perceived personal injury; I'm frankly not versed enough in the intricacies of German media law for an authoritative opinion. 


MON OCT 12, 2020 / 11:36 AM EDT

EU to sanction Russians over Navalny poisoning, diplomats say

(Reuters) - European Union foreign ministers backed a Franco-German plan on Monday to impose sanctions on Russians suspected of poisoning Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny with a nerve agent, diplomats said.

Berlin and Paris made their proposal at a meeting of EU foreign ministers in Luxembourg. They say they have not had a credible explanation from Moscow for what the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) said was the presence of the banned Soviet-era nerve agent Novichok in Navalny's body.

The speed with which the EU's two main powers have agreed to push ahead with sanctions suggests a hardening of the bloc's stance towards Moscow. It took almost a year for the EU to agree sanctions against Russians after a nerve agent attack in 2018 on a former Russian spy in Britain.


EU diplomats told Reuters there was broad support among the 27 foreign ministers for asset freezes and travel bans on several Russian GRU military intelligence officials.

Moscow denies any involvement in Navalny's poisoning.

Senior Russian lawmaker Vladimir Dzhabarov said on Monday that Russia may respond to the EU sanctions symmetrically and repeated Moscow's line that there was no concrete evidence behind the accusations, Interfax news agency reported.

The sanctions are not expected to be approved immediately as legal texts must be prepared and cleared by experts from the 27 EU states.

Navalny fell ill on a flight in Siberia on Aug. 20 and was subsequently airlifted to Berlin for treatment. Blood samples taken from him confirmed the presence of a nerve agent from the banned Novichok family, the OPCW said last week.

Western governments and the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation have said that Russia must help in investigations or face consequences.

Austria's foreign minister, Alexander Schallenberg, whose country has tended to favour closer ties with Russia, said there could not be a "return to business as usual" and that Moscow had failed to help clear up doubts about the poisoning.


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1 hour ago, glenn239 said:

Why is that a scoop?  I thought it was a done deal that Russian intel was behind the attack.


Who cares, just another headline bukweet on cematory from Cyprus story :) 

  Probably we here in Russia must welcome that, as every new tour of this fake investigations and following sanctions are leaving less and less space for pro-Western liberals who were in charge of Russia for last 30 years to trade our national interests for houses in London and villas in Florida

"O'BRIEN: MARGARET, there's almost nothing we can sanction left of the Russians. ....... There's not a lot left we can do with the Russians." (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-robert-obrien-on-face-the-nation-august-9-2020/ )

Within few years, we will see final separation, and probably it is good as there is hardly anything useful we can get from so called West.

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Some at least think they know who was behind it.


EU imposes sanctions on Kremlin chiefs over Alexei Navalny poisoning

FSB chief among six Russians targeted over ‘assassination attempt’ on opposition figure


Theo Merz in Moscow

Thu 15 Oct 2020 11.43 BST Last modified on Fri 16 Oct 2020 04.37 BST

The EU has announced sanctions against members of Vladimir Putin’s inner circle, including the head of Russia’s domestic spy agency, over the poisoning of the opposition figure Alexei Navalny.

The EU said it had agreed sanctions against six people believed to have been involved in the “assassination attempt” against Putin’s most vocal critic.

The assets of Alexander Bortnikov, the head of the Federal Security Service (FSB), the successor intelligence agency to the Soviet KGB, will be frozen, and he will face a travel ban, along with Sergei Kiriyenko, the first deputy chief of staff in Putin’s administration. Andrei Yarin, another Kremlin official, Alexei Krivoruchko and Pavel Popov, both deputy ministers of defence, and Sergei Menyaylo, a presidential envoy to the Siberian Federal District, will also be targeted.


The EU also placed under sanctions the Russian State Research Institute of Organic Chemistry and Technology, which it believes developed the chemical that was used to poison Navalny.

The UK has imposed sanctions on the same six senior Russian officials and is acting in coordination with the EU on the issue. The Foreign Office said: “The UK and its partners have agreed that there is no plausible explanation for Mr Navalny’s poisoning, other than Russian involvement and responsibility.

“Russia must hold a full and transparent investigation into the poisoning of one of its citizens on its soil with a banned chemical weapon. Russia must also declare its novichok programme to the OPCW [Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons].”


Russia has said it will respond with counter-sanctions against the EU but has yet to announce what form they will take. Moscow is already under western sanctions over the annexation of Crimea in 2014 and its support for separatists in eastern Ukraine.

Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, previously said the EU was using the poisoning of Navalny as an excuse to impose long-planned measures against Russia. On Wednesday, he claimed Europe was acting under pressure from the US.

In his first English-language interview since the attack, Navalny told the US programme 60 Minutes that Putin “enjoyed” using poison as a means to silence dissenting voices. The Russian president was using chemical weapons to “both kill me and, you know, terrify others”, he said.

Navalny noted that the US had yet to introduce sanctions and called on Donald Trump to condemn Russia over the poisoning.


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3 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Because Luke Harding says so. Whoever he is.

He is a Guardian Journalist who spent over a Year in Moscow before they kicked him out. He wrote the first decent book on the Alexander Litvinenko murder, 'A Very Expensive poison'. His other book on his Moscow posting was first rate also, gave a very in depth and convincing explanation of how the psychological operations by the FSB worked, and how they were based on Stasi psychological operations against dissidents. Really interesting reading.



Look on the positive side, for the first time in 5 years, Berlin, London and Paris now agree on something.😁

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55 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Ok, dont know why that was out of sequence, but the policeman who was poisoned in the salisbury novichok attack has just retired from the force, it just wasnt working out.

Soo the man who, as so called investigators tell us, was poisoned through incidental skin contact with some substance, was only saved by NHC magic assisted by Porton Down specialists and took years to recover, while man who, as the same investigators tell us, consumed bottle of water with the same substance, was saved by regional Russian healthcare  in the middle of Siberia and is already ok giving interviews etc….  No idea how people still manage to believe it - at least here in Russia even “opposition” is sort of shy to talk about this story, as Russians are too cynical to buy this. By the way, Charité the clinic is the same institution that claimed that Ukrainian President Uschenko was poisoned (now, years later, even his supporters are not mentioning this story) and that former PM Yulia Timoshenko is badly ill and is to released from prison immediately  (she recovered in magic way right after Maidan). Let’s wait and see.

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