Murph Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 The first ice of the year, and the whole state closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel2 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Clear sign of global warming. No ice would have also been a clear sign of global warming. Edited January 17, 2018 by Mikel2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 When there's a lot of snow and ice on the roads, normally salt is dropped onto pretty much all of the roads. So that would require the stock of salt, trucks that can lay it all down in all parts on a moments notice so that the roads will be ready soon. But in Texas, the roads are very extensive, and major icy roads during daylight hours is probably rather rare. So to most texas law makers, it's probably not worth the additional cost to maintain the salt, trucks, and man hours to be ready on short notice throughout the winter. Thus better to play it safe for the few times icy roads to appear and close places for the day. Well just some thoughts, I'm not particular to the details about salt laying trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingCanOpener Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 More of a case of it rarely needing de-icing than the large amount of roads. Up around Dallas and to the northwest ice and snow are uncommon, but down in southern Texas/south Louisiana? Almost never. I think we'll end up with more snowfall this winter than the previous decade combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzermann Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 More of a case of it rarely needing de-icing than the large amount of roads. Up around Dallas and to the northwest ice and snow are uncommon, but down in southern Texas/south Louisiana? Almost never. I think we'll end up with more snowfall this winter than the previous decade combined. plus people having only summer tires on their cars which get slippery when it is cold and wet (or freezing) and road traffic turns into a crawl. Many people in germany do not have winter tires either. Great fun when winter comes and actually delivers snow and frost. evn below 10°C can get slippery already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 They do not use salt, it is sand, and you are right, we get icy roads a few times a year down here, but when we do....OMG.When there's a lot of snow and ice on the roads, normally salt is dropped onto pretty much all of the roads. So that would require the stock of salt, trucks that can lay it all down in all parts on a moments notice so that the roads will be ready soon. But in Texas, the roads are very extensive, and major icy roads during daylight hours is probably rather rare. So to most texas law makers, it's probably not worth the additional cost to maintain the salt, trucks, and man hours to be ready on short notice throughout the winter. Thus better to play it safe for the few times icy roads to appear and close places for the day. Well just some thoughts, I'm not particular to the details about salt laying trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Ras Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 The expense and effort to maintain salt-distribution and snow-removal capability is one of those everpresent discussions. Heck, in my neck of the woods, a few years ago some of the folks at our local community townhall were very eager to save on salt and snow readiness, citing global warming making snow rarer, and two subsequent mild winters where the draw on those resources was quite low.Fortunately, we managed to retain the capability (else it would have been difficult to re-establish on short notice), and the following winter was quite hard. So far, this winter is mild around here (Denmark), and sure enough, the coming townhall has the discussion point coming up again. Sigh, now I need to go to that meeting to make sure the idiots don't screw us over. --Soren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 They do not use salt, it is sand, and you are right, we get icy roads a few times a year down here, but when we do....OMG.Are the roads covered in ice or just snow? If it's actual ice the only way to drive is not to. Snow is harmless, one just needs to slow down and be gentle on the brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 We get black ice down here, and that is what is causing the issues. They do not use salt, it is sand, and you are right, we get icy roads a few times a year down here, but when we do....OMG.Are the roads covered in ice or just snow? If it's actual ice the only way to drive is not to. Snow is harmless, one just needs to slow down and be gentle on the brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Could be worse, could be Vanilla Ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 We get black ice down here, and that is what is causing the issues. Oh that. Closing everything down is the reasonable thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 As I pointed out to Northerners who laugh at Southerners and wintry conditions, ice hates everyone, no matter where they're from and wants to kill you.----Some of the rural AL roads seem to have iced up, but the interstates look OK. There's actually some fine snow coming down now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Are the roads covered in ice or just snow? If it's actual ice the only way to drive is not to. Snow is harmless, one just needs to slow down and be gentle on the brakes.That's over simplifying driving on snow. Given enough traffic and low enough temperatures, snow can quickly become ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Yes but until then drivers can compensate and it can be removed easily with a truck that has a scraper shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Ras Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 As I pointed out to Northerners who laugh at Southerners and wintry conditions, ice hates everyone, no matter where they're from and wants to kill you. If someone wants to kill you, that's an enemy.If everything wants to kill you, that's Nature. --Soren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Ice? No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 LOL I remember those. Ice? No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Had the truck out today and tonight. G177s are FAR better than bog standard military NDT's. Found some ice patches and the truck stayed true so long as I wasn't ham fisted. Didn't rig the chains as it's rough on the road and the chains when there's more pavement than Ice (which is what we're at right now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Seeing a deuce n half without duals is just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) It's a tweak to the chassis that is inherent in the design.The M34 and M35 were companion models with the only major difference being the bed and the rear duals or singles. The conversion, insofar as the duals/singles is concerned involves flipping the hubs around with the same bolt holes that the drum attaches with being the same as the bolt holes for the axle half shafts. The bearing races are the same inside and out. The reason for the singles gives higher road speeds, less unsprung weight, 1100s have higher load bearing capacity and a bit more ground clearance. Off road you're running the rears in the same path as the fronts so you're not making another channel in the mud after the front's have pushed their channel. So, you're better off getting through the sloppy stuff. Edited January 18, 2018 by rmgill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 As I pointed out to Northerners who laugh at Southerners and wintry conditions, ice hates everyone, no matter where they're from and wants to kill you. If someone wants to kill you, that's an enemy.If everything wants to kill you, that's Australia. FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Yesterday I saw an SUV with TX plates that was liberally coated with ice and road grime, and some LA (state) buses carrying ice as well.BHM really did get off light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd1 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) They do not use salt, it is sand, and you are right, we get icy roads a few times a year down here, but when we do....OMG.When there's a lot of snow and ice on the roads, normally salt is dropped onto pretty much all of the roads. So that would require the stock of salt, trucks that can lay it all down in all parts on a moments notice so that the roads will be ready soon. But in Texas, the roads are very extensive, and major icy roads during daylight hours is probably rather rare. So to most texas law makers, it's probably not worth the additional cost to maintain the salt, trucks, and man hours to be ready on short notice throughout the winter. Thus better to play it safe for the few times icy roads to appear and close places for the day. Well just some thoughts, I'm not particular to the details about salt laying trucks. sigh .....all you need to do is to put de-icing fluids on crop-duster planes and fly down the roads .... as kelly bundy said - viola! Edited January 18, 2018 by bd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I know some places have gone to using deicer based off of beet juice instead of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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