NickM Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 2 hours ago, rmgill said: Did you not see the Democracy Now interview I posted a few weeks back? New Drinking game. take a shot of Bud light every time they use euphemistic language. By the end of the video, you'll be drunk off your ass and will have been to the bathroom 3 times. Watch 'Democracy Now!"? No thanks, I value what few brain cells I have left
JWB Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 Gang Members Hold Positions at ‘Highest Levels’ of LA Sheriff’s Department, Investigation Reveals (msn.com)
NickM Posted March 8, 2023 Posted March 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, JWB said: Gang Members Hold Positions at ‘Highest Levels’ of LA Sheriff’s Department, Investigation Reveals (msn.com) Rolling Stoners? Yeah, they're a good source. LA sheriff's dept calls out DA Gascon on his BS, so they're now authorized class enemies.
JWB Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 8 hours ago, NickM said: Rolling Stoners? Yeah, they're a good source. LA sheriff's dept calls out DA Gascon on his BS, so they're now authorized class enemies. I guess you ignored all the inline links? REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SPECIAL COUNSELTO SHERIFF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT COMMISSION REGARDINGDEPUTY GANGS AND DEPUTY CLIQUES https://www.scribd.com/document/629758526/ladeptygang#
DB Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Between opening this webpage and clicking back to it (a matter of five minutes) that last video has been age restricted. I think one needs, perhaps, to separate the corruption of police departments by organised crime from the day-to-day abuse of power and inadequate training related incidents of what is considered to be a functional police department.
Murph Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Just remember, Police report to their political masters, and since Chiefs are appointed, they tend to do what the Mayor/City Manager want them to do, be it right, wrong, legal or illegal. Since they serve at the pleasure of the Mayor/City Manager.
rmgill Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 7 hours ago, DB said: I think one needs, perhaps, to separate the corruption of police departments by organised crime from the day-to-day abuse of power and inadequate training related incidents of what is considered to be a functional police department. If an entire command staff is effecting illegal acts including fabricating charges against someone and effecting arrests, how is that not a form of organized crime? https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1961 18 U.S. Code § 1961 - Definitions U.S. Code Notes prev | next As used in this chapter— (1) “racketeering activity” means (A) any act or threat involving murder, kidnapping, gambling, arson, robbery, bribery, extortion, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), which is chargeable underState law and punishable by imprisonment for more than one year; (B) any act which is indictable under any of the following provisions of title 18, United States Code: Section 201 (relating to bribery), section 224 (relating to sports bribery), sections 471, 472, and 473 (relating to counterfeiting), section 659 (relating to theft from interstate shipment) if the act indictable under section 659 is felonious, section 664 (relating to embezzlement from pension and welfare funds), sections 891–894 (relating to extortionate credit transactions), section 932 (relating to straw purchasing), section 933 (relating to trafficking in firearms), section 1028 (relating to fraud and related activity in connection with identification documents), section 1029 (relating to fraud and related activity in connection with access devices), section 1084 (relating to the transmission of gambling information), section 1341 (relating to mail fraud), section 1343 (relating to wire fraud), section 1344 (relating to financial institution fraud), section 1351 (relating to fraud in foreign labor contracting), section 1425 (relating to the procurement of citizenship or nationalization unlawfully), section 1426 (relating to the reproduction of naturalization or citizenship papers), section 1427 (relating to the sale of naturalization or citizenship papers), sections 1461–1465 (relating to obscene matter), section 1503 (relating to obstruction of justice), section 1510 (relating to obstruction of criminal investigations), section 1511 (relating to the obstruction of State or local law enforcement), section 1512 (relating to tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant), section 1513 (relating to retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant), section 1542 (relating to false statement in application and use of passport), section 1543 (relating to forgery or false use of passport), section 1544 (relating to misuse of passport), section 1546 (relating to fraud and misuse of visas, permits, and other documents), sections 1581–1592 (relating to peonage, slavery, and trafficking in persons).,[1] sections 1831 and 1832 (relating to economic espionage and theft of trade secrets), section 1951 (relating to interference with commerce, robbery, or extortion), section 1952 (relating to racketeering), section 1953 (relating to interstate transportation of wagering paraphernalia), section 1954 (relating to unlawful welfare fund payments), section 1955 (relating to the prohibition of illegal gambling businesses), section 1956 (relating to the laundering of monetary instruments), section 1957 (relating to engaging in monetary transactions in property derived from specified unlawful activity), section 1958 (relating to use of interstate commerce facilities in the commission of murder-for-hire), section 1960 (relating to illegal money transmitters), sections 2251, 2251A, 2252, and 2260 (relating to sexual exploitation of children), sections 2312 and 2313 (relating to interstate transportation of stolen motor vehicles), sections 2314 and 2315 (relating to interstate transportation of stolen property), section 2318 (relating to trafficking in counterfeit labels for phonorecords, computer programs or computer program documentation or packaging and copies of motion pictures or other audiovisual works), section 2319 (relating to criminal infringement of a copyright), section 2319A (relating to unauthorized fixation of and trafficking in sound recordings and music videos of live musical performances), section 2320 (relating to trafficking in goods or services bearing counterfeit marks), section 2321 (relating to trafficking in certain motor vehicles or motor vehicle parts), sections 2341–2346 (relating to trafficking in contraband cigarettes), sections 2421–24 (relating to white slave traffic),[2] sections 175–178 (relating to biological weapons), sections 229–229F (relating to chemical weapons), section 831 (relating to nuclear materials), (C) any act which is indictable under title 29, United States Code, section 186 (dealing with restrictions on payments and loans to labor organizations) or section 501(c) (relating to embezzlement from union funds), (D) any offense involving fraud connected with a case under title 11 (except a case under section 157 of this title), fraud in the sale of securities, or the felonious manufacture, importation, receiving, concealment, buying, selling, or otherwise dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), punishable under any law of the United States, (E) any act which is indictable under the Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act, (F) any act which is indictable under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 274 (relating to bringing in and harboring certain aliens), section 277 (relating to aiding or assisting certain aliens to enter the UnitedStates), or section 278 (relating to importation of alien for immoral purpose) if the act indictable under such section of such Act was committed for the purpose of financial gain, or (G) any act that is indictable under any provision listed in section 2332b(g)(5)(B);
NickM Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 5:43 PM, JWB said: I guess you ignored all the inline links? Uninterested in links; they're concerned about errant affirmative action hires, while the Greater LA Area descends into chaos and violence due to the deliberate omissions and actions of LA's chief law enforcement official.
Skywalkre Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 Shock, surprise. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-finds-civil-rights-violations-louisville-metro-police-department-and A troubling quote from the report: Quote For years, LMPD has practiced an aggressive style of policing that it deploys selectively, especially against Black people, but also against vulnerable people throughout the city. LMPD cites people for minor offenses, like wide turns and broken taillights, while serious crimes like sexual assault and homicide go unsolved. Some officers demonstrate disrespect for the people they are sworn to protect. Some officers have videotaped themselves throwing drinks at pedestrians from their cars; insulted people with disabilities; and called Black people “monkeys,” “animal,” and “boy.” This conduct erodes community trust, and the unlawful practices of LMPD and Louisville Metro undermine public safety. Failures of leadership and accountability have allowed unlawful conduct to continue unchecked. Even when city and police leaders announced solutions, they failed to follow through. In LMPD, officer misconduct too often goes unnoticed and unaddressed. At times, LMPD leaders have endorsed and defended unlawful conduct. A street enforcement unit that violated LMPD policy and federal law has been repeatedly rebranded, but never disbanded. First-line supervisors regularly fail to monitor their officers and recognize misconduct when it occurs, and more senior leaders fail to demand better. Supervisors routinely overlook or even defend obviously excessive force, search warrants clearly lacking probable cause, unjustified no- knock entries, failures to document traffic stops in Black neighborhoods, and unnecessarily harsh treatment of people with disabilities.
rmgill Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) I don't suppose we will see a DOJ report on the FBI any time soon? in other news, Ga's Clayton Co Sheriff is going to prison. Edited March 13, 2023 by rmgill
R011 Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Skywalkre said: Shock, surprise. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-finds-civil-rights-violations-louisville-metro-police-department-and A troubling quote from the report: If correct, they need to disband that police force and form a new police serviec with few if any holdovers from the former force. Are the county sherrifs or state police there much better?
Murph Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 Once more, look who runs these cities where there are issues. I can almost 100% promise they are and have been run by and for Democrats for years if not decades. It was not a problem when the PD bashed heads and violated rights so long as it profited their Democrat masters. If you find corruption look to the Mayor/City Manager who hire the chief and they like how their PD works until it becomes politically expedient to bash the PD. And as a result, the good cops are bailing left and right. NYPD is in crisis right now, as are other PD's in Libtard land.
Tim the Tank Nut Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 the Louisville Metro PD is "D" all the way along with the city leaders.
rmgill Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 One of the things is that the D's run the police into the ground then the DOJ comes in and has a Consent Agreemnt that basically hobbles the PD from doing any sort of aggressive policing in the dangerous areas. If the police arrest more of X race than Y race, then that runs afoul of the agreement and enacts penalties, so the police brass distinctly discourage police work unless it rises above a certain level of harm. This is where you also get police policy not to pursue suspects for minor offenses, never mind that fleeing over a minor offense could indicate something more substantive going on.
rmgill Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 And as we saw, the situation in Seattle was improved right?
Skywalkre Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 12 hours ago, Murph said: Once more, look who runs these cities where there are issues. That sheriff in AL a page back was R. Mesa, a local suburb whose cops have been featured several times in this thread, has been run by Rs. Arpaio, here in Maricopa years ago, basically ran his own agenda and leaned heavily R. Maybe we should worry first and foremost about dealing with and replacing/firing/prosecuting bad LEOs than immediately pointing at political affiliations.
rmgill Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Skywalkre said: That sheriff in AL a page back was R. Mesa, a local suburb whose cops have been featured several times in this thread, has been run by Rs. Arpaio, here in Maricopa years ago, basically ran his own agenda and leaned heavily R. Maybe we should worry first and foremost about dealing with and replacing/firing/prosecuting bad LEOs than immediately pointing at political affiliations. One guy. The D's seem to specialize in systemic corruption across the entire city.
Murph Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 I never said it was 100% D's, but just the vast majority. Also I know of a Sheriff (R) who has been indicted in Texas, he is a complete idiot (he was a Highway Patrol Sgt). Bad cops are bad cops, but the vast majority come from jurisdictions run by Democrats. Most, and I do mean most cops are basically good people doing a really rough, crappy job where people expect them to be law enforcers, social workers, counsellors, priests, paramedics, etc, etc. Also where are the people who are supposed to be the checks and balances of the police departments? Where are the judges? Mostly just rubber stamping bad practices, Where are the supervisors? Mostly doing what their political masters want. Where are the prosecutors? Mostly just accepting whatever unethical crap the PD submits since they work for an elected boss who is probably the same political party as the Mayor, etc. And usually paid for by George Soros and his ilk. Who watches the watchmen? Without accountability we are lost. That is why I loved having the Ranger show up on one of my cases, because we were accountability partners. Look at Louisville PD, none of those who were supposed to be the checks and balances did anything to stop the rot. So the officers did what the political masters wanted. Suprise, suprise all Democrats.
NickM Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 12 hours ago, rmgill said: One guy. The D's seem to specialize in systemic corruption across the entire city. And Sheriff Joe didn't seem so bad to me
sunday Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, NickM said: And Sheriff Joe didn't seem so bad to me Well, Leftist hate for a person on the Right is directly proportional to how successful and good that person is at his work.
Murph Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 That is true. He made the poor criminals watch the weather channel, and eat sandwiches. Boo Hoo. That is not to say he might have done some things that were not ethical, but I loved his tent city.
DB Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 With that LMPD report, you can't do zero tolerance policing if the police force itself is exempt. But how good a police force are you going to have if it's politically prevented from doing its job in the first place? From the description, though, this fits into the generally dysfunctional category (everyone is just incompetent and/or disaffected) rather than the deliberately corrupt. Which is what I was trying to differentiate from a couple of pages back.
Murph Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 Never ascribe to malice (or criminality) what can be explained by incompetence.
rmgill Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 7 hours ago, DB said: From the description, though, this fits into the generally dysfunctional category (everyone is just incompetent and/or disaffected) rather than the deliberately corrupt. Which is what I was trying to differentiate from a couple of pages back. How do you tell deliberate corruption as compared to gross incompetence? If the leadership desired greater crime and predation how would it look different? Take the case of Warren v DC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia Background[edit] Warren, Taliaferro, and Douglas[edit] In the early morning hours of Sunday, March 16, 1975, Carolyn Warren and Joan Taliaferro, who shared a room on the third floor of their rooming house at 1112 Lamont Street Northwest in the District of Columbia, and Miriam Douglas, who shared a room on the second floor with her four-year-old daughter, were asleep. The women were awakened by the sound of the back door being broken down by two men later identified as Marvin Kent and James Morse. The men entered Douglas' second floor room, where Kent forced Douglas to perform oral sex on him and Morse raped her. Warren and Taliaferro heard Douglas' screams from the floor below. Warren called 9-1-1 and told the dispatcher that the house was being burglarized, and requested immediate assistance. The department employee told her to remain quiet and assured her that police assistance would be dispatched promptly. Warren's call was received at Metropolitan Police Department Headquarters at 6:23 am, and was recorded as a burglary-in-progress. At 6:26, a call was dispatched to officers on the street as a "Code 2" assignment, although calls of a crime in progress should be given priority and designated as "Code 1." Four police cruisers responded to the broadcast; three to the Lamont Street address and one to another address to investigate a possible suspect. Meanwhile, Warren and Taliaferro crawled from their window onto an adjoining roof and waited for the police to arrive. While there, they observed one policeman drive through the alley behind their house and proceed to the front of the residence without stopping, leaning out the window, or getting out of the car to check the back entrance of the house. A second officer apparently knocked on the door in front of the residence, but left when he received no answer. The three officers departed the scene at 6:33 am, five minutes after they arrived. Warren and Taliaferro crawled back inside their room. They again heard Douglas' continuing screams; again called the police; told the officer that the intruders had entered the home, and requested immediate assistance. Once again, a police officer assured them that help was on the way. This second call was received at 6:42 am and recorded merely as "investigate the trouble;" it was never dispatched to any police officers. Believing the police might be in the house, Warren and Taliaferro called down to Douglas, thereby alerting Kent to their presence. At knifepoint, Kent and Morse then forced all three women to accompany them to Kent's apartment. For the next fourteen hours the captive women were raped, robbed, beaten, forced to commit sexual acts upon one another, and made to submit to the sexual demands of Kent and Morse. Warren, Taliaferro, and Douglas brought the following claims of negligence against the District of Columbia and the Metropolitan Police Department: (1) the dispatcher's failure to forward the 6:23 am call with the proper degree of urgency; (2) the responding officers' failure to follow standard police investigative procedures, specifically their failure to check the rear entrance and position themselves properly near the doors and windows to ascertain whether there was any activity inside; and (3) the dispatcher's failure to dispatch the 6:42 am call.
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