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You wonder why the same dumb fucks who claim to want "meritocracy" also advocate for "women in STEM/LE/whatever" or some other dumb shit. 

Hey stupid...they have a pussy, they're ALWAYS going to take the easy way.  How new are you?  S/F....Ken M 

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after a recent visit to Barnes and Noble, two things have become apparent: The WW2/Korea/Veet-nom section has shrunken (almost NO Osprey books, which were always my faves to browse);

Secondly,. there is suddenly a slew of books written by DC Cops and other 'heroes',  about the 1/6/20 'mostly peaceful demonstrations'.

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What was the initial warrant about? 

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It claims he engaged in a verbal altercation before he was shot, well the video tells the real story.  The Sheriff's Office press release sounds like a BUNCH of CYA.  

 CHEROKEE COUNTY, North Carolina (WLOS) -- Surveillance footage from inside the home of a Murphy, North Carolina, man provides an inside look at a December raid that left the homeowner shot multiple times.

On December 13, 2022, Jason Harley Kloepfer, 41, was reportedly shot several times by members of the Cherokee Indian Police SWAT Team. The incident was first reported by the Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office in a press release posted to social media later that day. In the post, authorities said on Monday, Dec. 12, a 911 call had alerted authorities to a disturbance with several gunshots at a residence on Upper Bear Paw Road.

According to the press release, “Recognizing there was an armed suspect present and the potential for a hostage situation, Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office obtained a search warrant and requested assistance from the Cherokee Indian Police Department SWAT Team.”

The press release says the “suspected shooter engaged in a verbal altercation with officers and emerged from a camper trailer and confronted officers. Members of the Cherokee Indian Police SWAT Team fired upon the suspect and wounded him.”

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In many "communities" the police are just another gang, with quasi legitimacy.  So fraud in addition to impulsive violence.  S/F....Ken M  

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1 hour ago, Murph said:

It claims he engaged in a verbal altercation before he was shot, well the video tells the real story.  The Sheriff's Office press release sounds like a BUNCH of CYA.  

 

The press release says the “suspected shooter engaged in a verbal altercation with officers and emerged from a camper trailer and confronted officers. Members of the Cherokee Indian Police SWAT Team fired upon the suspect and wounded him.”

Confronted? He was told to come out and clearly woken up from a deep sleep by someone outside yelling to come out side. 

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7 hours ago, Murph said:

This bad, really really bad.  No way to defend this, especially with the comment when the SWAT guys found that the victim had cameras inside the house.  

https://www.kake.com/story/48213339/north-carolina-man-shot-by-police-releases-surveillance-video-from-night-of-the-shooting

 

I could see how going to the door with an object in his hand that could be mistaken for a gun might motivate the cops outside to shoot.

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21 hours ago, JWB said:

It gets worse, much worse;

https://www.todayonline.com/world/stalking-mole-fbi-held-5-years-pouncing
 

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WASHINGTON — Face to face with a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer in 2013, federal agents took a calculated risk.

They did not confront him about the classified information they had found in his luggage. And they did not ask what they most wanted to know: whether he was a spy for China.

It was a life-or-death call.

The Chinese government had been systematically picking off American spies in China, dismantling a network that had taken the CIA years to build. A mole hunt was underway, and the former officer Jerry Chun Shing Lee was the prime suspect.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) could have arrested him on the spot for possessing classified information. But inside a secretive government task force, investigators argued against it, former United States officials recalled.

 


 

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When the CIA noticed in late 2010 that its spies were disappearing, suspicion did not immediately turn to Lee, according to current and former officials.

But as fears of a mole grew, the government set up a secret task force of CIA officers and FBI agents. A veteran FBI counter-intelligence agent Charles McGonigal, was assigned to run it, former US law enforcement officials said.

As the disappearances continued, analysts concluded that Lee, even though he had been out of the CIA for years, had known the identities of many of the those who had been killed or imprisoned.

 

 

Same fucker who helped the DNC advance the Russiagate op.

 

 

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1 hour ago, R011 said:

I could see how going to the door with an object in his hand that could be mistaken for a gun might motivate the cops outside to shoot.

But it was their camera drone. Their officer running it should have been able to report said fact. 
 

I expect that this will be a payout by the PD. 

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15 hours ago, R011 said:

I could see how going to the door with an object in his hand that could be mistaken for a gun might motivate the cops outside to shoot.

I agree, it looked like a flashlight of some sort.  But what made me cringe was when they were in the house, noticed the cameras, and realized they had messed up, and commented on it, on camera.  I am just surprised they did not take the cameras and recorder.  

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14 hours ago, rmgill said:

But it was their camera drone. Their officer running it should have been able to report said fact. 
 

I expect that this will be a payout by the PD. 

Agreed.  No one is perfect, and mistakes can be made.  It just looks really bad.  But notice the MSM has not picked up on it since the "victim" does not meet their preferred narrative.  

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1 hour ago, Murph said:

Agreed.  No one is perfect, and mistakes can be made.  It just looks really bad.  But notice the MSM has not picked up on it since the "victim" does not meet their preferred narrative.  

And did I hear they were Cherokee cops? That mean they were Rez Cops?

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2 hours ago, Murph said:

Agreed.  No one is perfect, and mistakes can be made.  It just looks really bad.  But notice the MSM has not picked up on it since the "victim" does not meet their preferred narrative.  

 

2 hours ago, Murph said:

I agree, it looked like a flashlight of some sort.  But what made me cringe was when they were in the house, noticed the cameras, and realized they had messed up, and commented on it, on camera.  I am just surprised they did not take the cameras and recorder.  

I think they were talking about their small camera robot which the victim had picked up and had in his hand when he went to the door.  They may not have noticed the victim's security camera.

Apparently, a neighbour had claimed there was gunfire and a hostage there.  Obviously that was a lie.  The neighbour should be charged with something and sued for everything he owns and more.

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1 hour ago, NickM said:

And did I hear they were Cherokee cops? That mean they were Rez Cops?

I am not sure, I tried to google it, but I am not sure at all.  It would not make any difference if they were, looks like they had a good inter-local agreement in place for help.

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16 minutes ago, R011 said:

 

I think they were talking about their small camera robot which the victim had picked up and had in his hand when he went to the door.  They may not have noticed the victim's security camera.

Apparently, a neighbour had claimed there was gunfire and a hostage there.  Obviously that was a lie.  The neighbour should be charged with something and sued for everything he owns and more.

I cannot agree more.  Sounds like a Swatting call from what I have been able to understand.  There should be punishment for the caller.  Tim Pool keeps getting Swatted, and there should be stiff penalties for that.

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1 hour ago, NickM said:

So the Russia collusion false narrative guy is an actual Russian agent?

Yes, but do you REALLY expect the FBI to be honorable?  Or even slightly ethical?  I don't.

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On 1/24/2023 at 10:10 AM, Murph said:

This bad, really really bad.  No way to defend this, especially with the comment when the SWAT guys found that the victim had cameras inside the house.  

https://www.kake.com/story/48213339/north-carolina-man-shot-by-police-releases-surveillance-video-from-night-of-the-shooting

 

To modify one of your recent quotes, Murph...

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If the FBI/DOJ local police had not been so corrupt, and had actually obeyed the law of the land, and not been completely in the tank to cover up all Democrat their own scandals, and focused on getting Trump real criminals, perhaps Uncle Joe aka Pedo Pete actual criminals would have already been in prison along with Hunter bad cops for the rest of their lives.  But expecting honor, decency, and actual competence from the FBI/DOJ local police is far, far too much to hope for.  

There we go.  Fits for far more than just this video we saw... (Which, we only saw because the homeowner had the system... imagine how many incidents we're not hearing about.)

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Imho cops in the US sometimes acting with excessive force is in fact a real problem, and we’ve kind of lost out by framing it as a white vs black thing. Remember that drunk white guy in Vegas a few years back who got killed by a cop with an AR while he was lying in the ground and following the cop’s orders completely. Or this case that’s now front page news: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01/26/us/tyre-nichols-death-memphis

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14 hours ago, Angrybk said:

Imho cops in the US sometimes acting with excessive force is in fact a real problem, and we’ve kind of lost out by framing it as a white vs black thing. Remember that drunk white guy in Vegas a few years back who got killed by a cop with an AR while he was lying in the ground and following the cop’s orders completely. Or this case that’s now front page news: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01/26/us/tyre-nichols-death-memphis

"Excessive force" doesn't even have to be actually shooting someone. Just watch "COPS" or any of those other live shows, or clips on Youtube (and just forget about police shows on TV, they are simply AWFUL, even if entertaining). Drawing a weapon is a presentation of lethal force. I know its risky, but rolling up on someone's house or car with drawn guns is an aggressive action that shouldn't take place without some immediately apparent threat from the suspect/person of interest. Yeah, it can be dangerous, and yeah, that sucks, but that's the nature of the duty- carrying weapons and executing lethal force for society carries inherent risk. And while I admit that my perceptions are probably skewed by TV, we have way too many police officers presenting a (admittedly implicit) threat of lethal force by drawing a weapon without provocation during interactions with people who are merely suspects, not involved in threatening activity at the time of the interaction.

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