R011 Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 Even Wikipedia notes they're "progressive", "hyperpartisan", and "clickbait" with a big section on controversies and errors. It might be prudent to see what other news outlets report.
NickM Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 21 hours ago, R011 said: Even Wikipedia notes they're "progressive", "hyperpartisan", and "clickbait" with a big section on controversies and errors. It might be prudent to see what other news outlets report. Way back when we were still on IMDB (RIP!) the 'supposed selling point' was that Raw Feed was 'uncensored and unedited' footage--at least that's what the 'trolls' told me.: 'see for yourself and then decide'.
NickM Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 13 hours ago, rmgill said: Or see what Doughnut and Angry Cops say. Hmmm...would an incident such as this be on Doughnut's 'radar'?
rmgill Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, NickM said: Hmmm...would an incident such as this be on Doughnut's 'radar'? He zero'd in on Angry Cop when he was Angry Drill Sgt tackling someone who needed it in the buffalo local news. Besides he has an army of twitter and other Social media followers sending him everything. Edited January 20, 2022 by rmgill
Angrybk Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 Worst Deep South Speed Trap Town story you'll ever read, and kudos for local Alabama news for pointing it out. (Link I posted provides more context). https://jalopnik.com/this-tiny-alabama-town-of-1-200-has-been-overrun-by-pol-1848389331
sunday Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 Small traffic incident plus DUI lead to a broken neck and a man paralyzed for life... http://thefreethoughtproject.com/watch-elderly-army-vet-paralyzed-after-cops-handcuff-him-break-his-neck-during-traffic-stop/
rmgill Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) I'm curious if the footage of the body cam includes the Radiologist telling the officer "oh yeah, he IS paralyzed, I can see the injury". I see things like that and I'd like to see those officers put into positions where they're in excruciating pain and then told to relax. And then when they don't they get thumped in the nuts to make them comply more. Then let them up and see how they feel. Sort of like getting tazed or pepper sprayed in order to use the techniques. Edited February 8, 2022 by rmgill
Ivanhoe Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/02/the-lonesome-death-of-amir-locke.php Quote Amir Locke was killed in the course of the execution of a no-knock search warrant by Minneapolis police this past Wednesday. On Thursday evening the police released bodycam footage (in slow-motion and real time) from one of the officers executing the warrant (not the shooter). YouTube has made the video and several local news stories that include it age-restricted. As I write, the brief KARE 11 story below including some of the bodycam footage is generally accessible. At first blush, sounds like a world-class F-up. Early in the story, but one thing that struck me (i.e. the curious case of the dog that didn't bark) is why a law-abiding young guy was sleeping on someone's couch with a gun under the blanket. My guess at this point is that the neighborhood has gone to hell and he was there to protect some relative(s). Minneapolis being Minneapolis, it seems probable they will pull the police back further, with ensuing rise in violent crime. Lather, rinse, repeat.
sunday Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 5 hours ago, rmgill said: I'm curious if the footage of the body cam includes the Radiologist telling the officer "oh yeah, he IS paralyzed, I can see the injury". I see things like that and I'd like to see those officers put into positions where they're in excruciating pain and then told to relax. And then when they don't they get thumped in the nuts to make them comply more. Then let them up and see how they feel. Sort of like getting tazed or pepper sprayed in order to use the techniques. I've not seen the entirety of the footage, but hospital staff seem to side with the police officers, wonder if the victim did something to a vehicle related to them.
rmgill Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, sunday said: I've not seen the entirety of the footage, but hospital staff seem to side with the police officers, wonder if the victim did something to a vehicle related to them. I suspect it's down to the usual thing of a detained suspect making claims of injury that's not supported by reality. Just in this case they did the CT scans and I guess found, that there was in fact c-spine injury. (Can't have been an MRI as those cuffs and the bed would have ended up on the magnet). Edited February 8, 2022 by rmgill
TBeyer Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 On 2/7/2022 at 10:52 PM, Ivanhoe said: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/02/the-lonesome-death-of-amir-locke.php At first blush, sounds like a world-class F-up. Early in the story, but one thing that struck me (i.e. the curious case of the dog that didn't bark) is why a law-abiding young guy was sleeping on someone's couch with a gun under the blanket. My guess at this point is that the neighborhood has gone to hell and he was there to protect some relative(s). Minneapolis being Minneapolis, it seems probable they will pull the police back further, with ensuing rise in violent crime. Lather, rinse, repeat. More details are here - Locke was the cousin of a 17-year old the police were looking for in connection with a murder in St. Paul. The 3 apartments that police were watching and where members of the 17-year-olds family were staying are all in Minneapolis - and the Minneapolis police requested the no-knock warrant (St. Paul does not allow no-knock warrants). The 17-year-old has now been arrested in another city (he was carrying a loaded gun) and charged with the murder in St. Paul. https://www.startribune.com/17-year-old-arrested-in-st-paul-homicide-that-prompted-no-knock-warrant-leading-to-amir-lockes-death/600144372/
TBeyer Posted February 18, 2022 Posted February 18, 2022 Kim Potter, the former Brooklyn Center, MN police officer who confused her gun and taser while arresting Daunte Wright, was sentenced to 2 years (minus 2 months already served, and 1/3 of the remaining may be on supervised release): https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/18/us/kim-potter-sentence-manslaughter.html
Skywalkre Posted February 18, 2022 Posted February 18, 2022 2 hours ago, lucklucky said: That is too low. I'd agree... but she was never going to serve long regardless. A lot of commentary on this is coming from folks looking at max sentencing possibility without knowing the realities of what actually happens in these instances. There was some good commentary on this trial (since it got a fraction of the coverage of other recent cases) on the Minneapolis subreddit and a defense attorney there linked to an article that at most she was likely going to see less than 4 years. She got less than that... but I'd argue even 4 years doesn't seem right. /shrugs
Skywalkre Posted February 18, 2022 Posted February 18, 2022 On 12/1/2021 at 4:49 PM, Daan said: Arizona officer using overwhelming force to stop a thief, possibly armed with a knife, in a wheelchair: The officer has been fired. Update on this. He was only officially fired earlier this year. Also... still not charged with anything. The DA office has had the case for two months now and... nothing.
TBeyer Posted February 18, 2022 Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Skywalkre said: I'd agree... but she was never going to serve long regardless. A lot of commentary on this is coming from folks looking at max sentencing possibility without knowing the realities of what actually happens in these instances. There was some good commentary on this trial (since it got a fraction of the coverage of other recent cases) on the Minneapolis subreddit and a defense attorney there linked to an article that at most she was likely going to see less than 4 years. She got less than that... but I'd argue even 4 years doesn't seem right. /shrugs You can see the Judge's reasoning here, starting about 3:30. Before that is Kim Potter's statement. You can the statements by Daunte Wright's family on Youtube too, all are hard to listen to:
lucklucky Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 If the officer was not a woman would the sentence be different?
NickM Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 4 hours ago, lucklucky said: If the officer was not a woman would the sentence be different? If the officer wasn't a woman, in all probability she would not have even been hired; she was just a 'diversity check box'.
rmgill Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 I want to say that she was mostly a desk jockey and was put on the street because many officers had quit...
EchoFiveMike Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 9 hours ago, lucklucky said: If the officer was not a woman would the sentence be different? Of course it would. No one with a functional brain actually pretends women are competent at violence. S/F...Ken M
Skywalkre Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 13 hours ago, lucklucky said: If the officer was not a woman would the sentence be different? That's a great question. Commentary on reddit yesterday highlighted some studies showing the gender gap in sentencing is 6x worse than the racial gap!
NickM Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 12 hours ago, rmgill said: I want to say that she was mostly a desk jockey and was put on the street because many officers had quit... Ah, now THAT makes sense why she seemed to 'flighty'--clearly she hasn't been on 'the sharp end' for a while, if ever.
rmgill Posted February 21, 2022 Posted February 21, 2022 This looks good.... https://www.rebelnews.com/leaked_rcmp_messages_time_for_the_protesters_to_hear_our_jackboots_on_the_ground
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