When Defending Cops Becomes Impossible

[bojan]

This.

If there is evidence it should be published with photos. Not doing so only serves to further inflame things.

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[Mr King]

Late crime-busting sheriff Buford Pusser inspired Hollywood. Investigators say he killed his wife

 

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Updated 3:40 PM CDT, August 31, 2025

A late Tennessee sheriff who inspired a Hollywood movie about a law enforcement officer who took on organized crime killed his wife in 1967 and led people to believe she was killed by his enemies, authorities said Friday.

Authorities acknowledged that the finding will likely shock many who grew up as Buford Pusser fans and watched 1973’s “Walking Tall,” which immortalized him as a tough but fair sheriff with zero tolerance for crime. The movie was remade in 2004, and many officers joined law enforcement because of his story, according to Mark Davidson, the district attorney for Tennessee’s 25th judicial district.

There is enough evidence that if Pusser, the McNairy County sheriff who died in a car crash seven years after his wife’s death, were alive today, prosecutors would present an indictment to a grand jury for the killing of Pauline Mullins Pusser, Davidson said. Investigators also uncovered signs that she suffered from domestic violence. 

 

 

https://apnews.com/article/buford-pusser-walking-tall-tennessee-cold-case-6a3162fb834a19947b33fbc9002a9a45

[Ivanhoe]

https://www.wwnytv.com/2025/10/13/postal-worker-died-jail-cell-after-officers-ignored-signs-stroke-lawsuit-alleges/
 

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EAGAN, Minn. (WCCO) - A Minnesota postal worker who suffered a stroke while driving ended up behind bars instead of getting the medical help he needed, which cost him his life, according to a federal lawsuit filed by his family.

The lawsuit, which was filed last Thursday, accuses Eagan Police and Dakota County correctional officers of demonstrating a “deliberate indifference” to 50-year-old Kingsley Bimpong’s medical needs during the five hours and 40 minutes he was in custody.

“At every step along the way with Eagan [police] and the jail defendants, it was a conscious choice of deliberate indifference to not bring him to the hospital,” said Katie Bennett, the family’s attorney.

 

Seems like criminal negligence to me. 

[JWB]

Paywalled but you don't need to read the article:

 

[Murph]

5 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

https://www.wwnytv.com/2025/10/13/postal-worker-died-jail-cell-after-officers-ignored-signs-stroke-lawsuit-alleges/
 

Seems like criminal negligence to me. 

Yup, seems that way to me.  Complete fark up, so they get to pay for their stupidity.

[Ivanhoe]

I know little about publicity and PR, but for an LEO accused of stalking and affairs, it seems ill-advised to hire a lawyer who is all glammed up and wearing clothes that emphasize cleavage;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX_qRhixDzY

 

[Ivanhoe]

They need to assign the deputy to the rubber gun squad;

 

[Mr King]

The institutional rot runs deep in Portland. 

 

 

[Murph]

Then the Insurrection act needs to be declared, and the Portland Mayor and Police Chief need to be arrested.  But have you noticed that in all these failing Demoturd run cities it is strong "Dont need no man" wammyn who are running things into the ground?  Seems the more wammyn you get in charge the worse things get.  Just saying.  

[NickM]

1 hour ago, Murph said:

Then the Insurrection act needs to be declared, and the Portland Mayor and Police Chief need to be arrested.  But have you noticed that in all these failing Demoturd run cities it is strong "Dont need no man" wammyn who are running things into the ground?  Seems the more wammyn you get in charge the worse things get.  Just saying.  

Yeah z wasn't there a case where Swedish lefty wymmyn were hiding th fact that they were raped by furren Dawgs so they didn't get accused of Islamophobia?

[Murph]

DEI strikes again in the Pedo-Joe admin:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/10/23/report-joe-bidens-secret-service-had-overweight-female-agent-who-failed-fitness-tests-moonlighted-as-plus-size-model/

Under Cheatle’s leadership, DEI had become so normalized that an overweight female agent who never passed her physical fitness tests was not only retained on staff – she was allowed to moonlight as a model. The agent, who was featured in a magazine profile, traded on her job in federal law enforcement and hinted at her Secret Service position in a photo shoot labeled, “Undercover, But Never Underdressed.”

The female agent, who bills herself as a “nationally published curve model, plus-size fashion and fitness influencer, and body-positive advocate” on social media, was assigned to protect Kamala Harris’ stepdaughter, Ella Emhoff, in New York. After several failed attempts to pass a physical fitness test, the agent was placed in the Special Services Division, which handles support functions for the agency, including the maintenance of the armored vehicle fleet and the screening of mail and packages for the White House complex, according to four sources in the Secret Service community.

[Tim the Tank Nut]

that is called a tower shield +2.  The agent represented a large object between the threat and the target.

[JWB]

LOS ANGELES—George Retes, a U.S. citizen and Iraq War veteran, was detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies for three days and three nights. During that time, he was denied access to an attorney, was not allowed to make a phone call, was not presented to a judge, and was put in an isolation cell. He missed his daughter’s third birthday. He was never charged with a crime.

https://ij.org/press-release/us-citizen-and-army-veteran-submits-claims-for-unconstitutional-immigration-detention/

[NickM]

6 hours ago, JWB said:

LOS ANGELES—George Retes, a U.S. citizen and Iraq War veteran, was detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies for three days and three nights. During that time, he was denied access to an attorney, was not allowed to make a phone call, was not presented to a judge, and was put in an isolation cell. He missed his daughter’s third birthday. He was never charged with a crime.

https://ij.org/press-release/us-citizen-and-army-veteran-submits-claims-for-unconstitutional-immigration-detention/

Hmmmm...scooped up in a raid, then held until they sorted thru everyone.  Actually, it sounds kinda rational. 

Perhaps things would have gone differently if VP Harris had secured the border, wait no--everything was  under control...wait no, there's only a few of them. 

Edited October 25, 2025 by NickM
Edited to maximize snark

[Ivanhoe]

Now do J6.

 

[JWB]

14 hours ago, NickM said:

Actually, it sounds kinda rational. 

That guy is a vet. He could have been verified in 3 hours.

[Ol Paint]

14 hours ago, NickM said:

Hmmmm...scooped up in a raid, then held until they sorted thru everyone.  Actually, it sounds kinda rational. 

Perhaps things would have gone differently if VP Harris had secured the border, wait no--everything was  under control...wait no, there's only a few of them. 

Except for the part that he was detained for 72 hours.  According to reporting, approximately 200 people were arrested. 

It should not have taken 72 hours to check his ID and citizenship/immigration status. 

While I am assuming that the lack of charges means he didn't do anything warranting an extended hold, that's part of the "innocent until proven guilty" cynicism we should have in favor of the citizen.

Doug

[Ivanhoe]

Did ICE have his ID? 

 

[Ivanhoe]

SCOTUS judge Kagan actually did something smart this year;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes_v._Felix

I will oversimplify and say that the conduct of police for the entirety of an interaction with a suspect and/or detainee is admissable and relevant, not just when things escalate to violence. 

IMHO it re-balances the scale of justice, holding The State (who are paid professionals) to the same standards as the accused (who are amateurs). 

 

 

[rmgill]

3 hours ago, Ol Paint said:

Except for the part that he was detained for 72 hours.  According to reporting, approximately 200 people were arrested. 

It should not have taken 72 hours to check his ID and citizenship/immigration status. 

While I am assuming that the lack of charges means he didn't do anything warranting an extended hold, that's part of the "innocent until proven guilty" cynicism we should have in favor of the citizen.

Doug

You realize that this is the order:

RAS
Detainment
PC
Arrest
Bail and/or Evidentiary hearing
Trial
Determination of guilt or innocence
Release - incarceration

[Ivanhoe]

Also keep in mind that the rules are much different for immigration enforcement. 

In the US, immigration law is an administrative court thing. And just as with speeding tickets, you are guilty until proven innocent. 

IMHO, most federal administrative law should be nullified, likewise for administrative courts. We need the same ruleset consistently. 

 

[Ol Paint]

3 hours ago, rmgill said:

You realize that this is the order:

RAS
Detainment
PC
Arrest
Bail and/or Evidentiary hearing
Trial
Determination of guilt or innocence
Release - incarceration

It's not particularly relevant, Ryan.  At most, he shouldn't have gotten beyond step four in that list when being processed at a detention facility--assuming the volume of folks detained was such that ICE didn't have the ability to expeditiously check his ID in the field.  Reasonable articulable suspicion should have evaporated as soon as his identity could be established and, therefore, his status as an American citizen. 

We'll see how the civil proceeding develops.

Doug

[Ol Paint]

7 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Did ICE have his ID? 

 

As far as I can tell from the reporting is there's a lot of finger-pointing.  This Newsweek article seems to lay out the opposing statements fairly well:

https://www.newsweek.com/us-citizen-army-veteran-arrested-ice-dhs-debunk-10870108

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“Every time Homeland Security is caught doing something bad, the response is not to own it but to sell the public a bill of goods,” said IJ Attorney Marie Miller. “Thankfully we still have the judiciary in this country. And George has reality on his side.”

DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told Newsweek: “George Retes was arrested and has been released. He has not been charged. The U.S. Attorney’s Office is reviewing his case, along with dozens of others, for potential federal charges related to the execution of the federal search warrant in Camarillo.”

DHS wrote in a press release: "George Retes—a U.S. citizen—became violent and refused to comply with law enforcement. He challenged agents and blocked their route by refusing to move his vehicle out of the road. CBP arrested Retes for assault."

Retes wrote in an op-ed on Home of the Brave: "First, I was not violent, I simply asked the officers to let me pass through because I needed to get to work; and I also complied with ICE’s demands by backing up my car. Second, the statement ignores the three days I spent in federal custody with no charges, no phone call to my family, no access to a judge or an attorney, no shower, and no explanation for their actions. It is deeply troubling that a government agency would publicly deny these facts while portraying my experience as a threat or attack on officers."

Doug

[rmgill]

8 hours ago, Ol Paint said:

It's not particularly relevant, Ryan.

Just as relevant as your "innocent until proven guilty" comment. 

8 hours ago, Ol Paint said:

 At most, he shouldn't have gotten beyond step four in that list when being processed at a detention facility--assuming the volume of folks detained was such that ICE didn't have the ability to expeditiously check his ID in the field.  Reasonable articulable suspicion should have evaporated as soon as his identity could be established and, therefore, his status as an American citizen. 

Yes. And when was that? Perhaps you have the full timeline? 
 

ICE doesn't have the ability to deal with the large numbers because Biden opened the floodgates for 4 years. It's a tall order. Possible a civil suit could prevail. It also depends on what was said during the arrest and detention doesn't it? 

IT also does not help that some states have been issuing drivers licenses to illegal immigrants, KNOWINGLY. Which makes it harder to prove citizenship or legal residence with just a license doesn't it? 

Who's fault is that again? Used to be you could come and go from the US to Canada and Mexico with just a DL. You can't now. Why is that?