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The ideal would be a highly dispersed and highly mobile system that was effectively networked and drew it targeting information from a wide range of sensors and platforms. CAMM L is a step in the right direction, but I would like to see launchers that were smaller and more mobile and a wider range of missiles with alternate seekers.

The US army is working on something along those lines, surprisingly:

 

Multi-Mission Launcher

 

http://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-defense-systems-2/future-bmd-systems-2/multi-mission-launcher-mml/

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The ideal would be a highly dispersed and highly mobile system that was effectively networked and drew it targeting information from a wide range of sensors and platforms. CAMM L is a step in the right direction, but I would like to see launchers that were smaller and more mobile and a wider range of missiles with alternate seekers.

The US army is working on something along those lines, surprisingly:

 

Multi-Mission Launcher

 

http://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-defense-systems-2/future-bmd-systems-2/multi-mission-launcher-mml/

 

 

Yes, that looks really impressive and very versatile with the option of C-RAM and even long range anti tank missiles. What that system lacks, however is an active radar SAM with decent range. CAMM-L can launch standard and ER active radar missiles (the latter with >45km range). The CAMM-L can be demounted from the MAN HX 8x8 truck, which is meant to free up trucks for other uses. How much of a good idea that might be in practice remains to be seen - I have my doubts. I see these two systems as potentially complementary.

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AIM-9X is rather small diameter and a custom radar seeker development would cost A LOT.

CAMM could be used.

 

AMRAAM-ER (AIM-120D seeker + ESSM body) is the obvious choice until ESSM Blk II production exceeds naval demand.

Old AMRAAM series (A, B ) munitions phased out of air force fighter use could be used, but they are not going to provide much of a protection umbrella. Their solid fuel rocket wasn't made to first climb AND reach Mach3+.

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"Old AMRAAM" would probably have life expired motors and warheads and unrepairable through obsolescence electronics.

A fairly serious case of Trigger's Broom/ Washington's Axe.

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"Old AMRAAM" would probably have life expired motors and warheads and unrepairable through obsolescence electronics.

A fairly serious case of Trigger's Broom/ Washington's Axe.

 

Maybe, but the opposing power wouldn't be sure how many of those one thousand missiles are still a threat and which aren't.

The military should first and foremost be about deterrence, not killing - and a free addition of uncertainty about additional firepower is welcome.

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AIM-9X is rather small diameter and a custom radar seeker development would cost A LOT.

CAMM could be used.

 

AMRAAM-ER (AIM-120D seeker + ESSM body) is the obvious choice until ESSM Blk II production exceeds naval demand.

Old AMRAAM series (A, B ) munitions phased out of air force fighter use could be used, but they are not going to provide much of a protection umbrella. Their solid fuel rocket wasn't made to first climb AND reach Mach3+.

 

Would either AMRAAM-ER or ESSM Block II fit the Multi-Mission Launcher?

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AMRAAM did fit on that SLAMRAAM/HUMRAAM launcher

http://www.deagel.com/Defensive-Weapons/SL-AMRAAM_a001164005.aspx

http://defence-blog.com/missiles/soundeluxs-per-hallberg-reprises-oscar-winning-performance.html

but the link

https://warisboring.com/the-trillion-dollar-military-budget/

doesn't even mention AMRAAM. AMRAAM-ER and ESSM have more powerful initial thrust than AMRAAM and are much fatter.

 

AMRAAM-ER flight tests used the towed NASAMS launcher, not the flashy new high mobility launcher (~HUMRAAM)

https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/ausa/2016/10/04/raytheons-extended-range-amraam-missile-destroys-target-in-first-flight-test/

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On 4/3/2018 at 2:11 PM, Tantalwz88 said:

Right now "Wisła" medium range is incomplete with only 2 batteries that have sixteen M901 launching stations armed only PAC-3 MSE, the next six batteries will be bought with SkyCeptor missile(Stunner derivative) this missile will be Poland main anti-aircraft missile made in large quantities for the "Wisła".

 

Short range "Narew" program will be based on CAMM(ER ?), IRIS-T SLM or NASAMS 2 missile connected to IBCS and new radars.

Although no production contract has been let, the UK option for NAREW has been downselected for further elaboration.

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/polish-armament-inspectorate-recommends-acquisitio/

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-poland-collaborate-on-multi-billion-pound-polish-air-defence-systems

I suspect that "CAMM" means "CAMM family", which would include CAMM-ER as speculated above. 

The expected size of the procurement means that local production of many elements is inevitable, and that's unlikely to mean only final assembly of "knock-down" kits, but fairly major sub-system assemblies. Whether that's of the missile or the launcher sub-systems and how much is likely to be part of the elaboration.

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