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Do we have a name for the new PLAN metre band radar replacing the Type 517. Here is the progression:

Type 517 metre band (VHF/UHF boundary)

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Type 363

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Type 382

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Type 517 M (metre band)

 

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Type 518 (looks very much like 517M to me)

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New metre band AESA with 12 elements and unknown name:

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Went through a bunch of mandarin webpages on that Type 52DL and no designation name comes up. Just "new radar type".

A big rotating VHF search radar and a SPY style fixed AESA array seems like a very good mix. As discussed earlier the U.S gave up on the mid-ship L band search radar as it was considered redundant. But this is a useful complement.

 

They should go the next step and mount JY-27A on larger ships:

 

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Do we know anything about plans for surface ships larger than the 055 ? Are there plans for a nuclear cruiser class ?

Heard nothing of the sort. I recall reading somewhere maybe 6-9 months ago that some PRC official stating that PLAN ship building was going to shift focus towards bigger ships and away from destroyers, IIRC. Sort of seems to be the case though. They have a handsome number of destroyer hulls as of now. So they may want to focus on the Type 75 LHDs and the carriers. And their subs since they finished the new sub facility just about a year or 2 ago. And observable destroyer module assembly seems to have ended. So I think it's going to end at 25 Type 52Ds and 8 Type 55s. They did show some testing with some sort of new radar (not long wave) on a testing ship rig so it wouldn't be too surprising if a new class of destroyer/frigate manufacturing begins again not too long from now. I've haven't noticed anything about a cruiser sort of thing that would be bigger than Type 55. But if you have something on that, it might be interesting to see.

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Might want to put a fire watch on this one.

Yeah, well...

 

 

There is something inflammable about this class of warship in general these days.

 

Korea's Dokdo class may be next.

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A day or two ago, apparantly official word on a construction project for a new, larger than Type 75, LHD class called Type 76, at 60,000 tons. Speculated for heli and catapult launching large size UAVs.

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A day or two ago, apparantly official word on a construction project for a new, larger than Type 75, LHD class called Type 76, at 60,000 tons. Speculated for heli and catapult launching large size UAVs.

Interesting.

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China should name it's next anti ship missile 'The No Alternative'.

'A new weapon called the "No Alternative" was also mentioned. The No Alternative was "made from a circular reed mat about five inches around and seven feet long that was pasted over with red paper and bound together with silk and hemp— stuffed inside it was gunpowder twisted in with bullets and all kinds of [subsidiary] gunpowder weapons."[3] It was hung from a pole on the foremast, and when an enemy ship came into close range, the fuse was lit, and the weapon would supposedly fall onto the enemy ship, at which point things inside shot out "and burned everything to bits, with no hope of salvation."[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lake_Poyang

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Second Type 75 LHD was just launched.

 

Article says same number as Type 71s of them to be made, so a plan of 8 Type 75s is being stated.

China is reportedly set to launch its second Type 075 amphibious assault ship soon following the launch of the first one in September, leading analysts to say that China has grasped related shipbuilding technologies. The development of aircraft to be used on the ships is also progressing smoothly, they said.

 

An amphibious assault ship is a type of warship which analysts believed will play a crucial role in reunifying the island of Taiwan by force, if it comes to that, and even more are needed, analysts noted.

 

The second Type 075 amphibious assault ship, being built in Hudong Zhonghua shipyard in Shanghai, is about to be launched, as its construction, including the hull and flight deck, is already complete, Ordnance Industry Science Technology, a Xi'an-based periodical on the national defense industry, reported on Monday, citing photos circulating on Chinese social media and foreign reports.

 

The ship is still in dark red due to the anti-corrosive priming paint and is not yet painted with the standard naval gray, the report said.

 

Comparing its current construction progress to the construction and launch process of the first Type 075, the report said the second Type 075 only has a few final adjustments to do and should be ready for launch soon.

 

This could potentially be the first known Chinese warship launch since the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) epidemic broke out, military observers said.

 

It is only half a year since the first Type 075 was launched, which is faster than usual compared to China's tradition of developing and building warships, the Ordnance Industry Science Technology reported, noting that this means China has mastered the technology of building amphibious assault ships, as China has garnered experience that can be applied with the building of Type 071 amphibious landing docks and aircraft carriers.

 

Another reason for the Type 075s' fast production is that the aviation combat equipment to be used on them is seeing smooth progress, as the Navy already has the naval versions of Z-8 and Z-9 helicopters and mass production for the naval version of the Z-20 is also expected to start in a few years, the periodical said, noting that China may also develop tiltrotor aircraft, a type of larger helicopter, and short takeoff and vertical landing fighter jets in the future.

 

China has an urgent need for amphibious assault ships to prepare for military struggles, including achieving China's reunification, because the current Type 071 amphibious landing docks and other tank landing ships lack vertical delivery capability and are not enough to transport large forces in a short period, so the Type 075 could be the most important item to make up for this shortcoming, the report said.

 

More Type 075s are expected to be built and eventually to the same number as the Type 071, as the two types of amphibious ships can form powerful landing fleets that are much more powerful in safeguarding national unity and territorial integrity, the report predicted.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1182190.shtml
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China should name it's next anti ship missile 'The No Alternative'.

 

'A new weapon called the "No Alternative" was also mentioned. The No Alternative was "made from a circular reed mat about five inches around and seven feet long that was pasted over with red paper and bound together with silk and hemp— stuffed inside it was gunpowder twisted in with bullets and all kinds of [subsidiary] gunpowder weapons."[3] It was hung from a pole on the foremast, and when an enemy ship came into close range, the fuse was lit, and the weapon would supposedly fall onto the enemy ship, at which point things inside shot out "and burned everything to bits, with no hope of salvation."[3]

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lake_Poyang

 

Standard armament of their Empress class cruiser.

 

 

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