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Funny, I'd always assumed that Pearson was a UK company. I suppose that gets increasingly blurred when they're owned by a holding company that has its fingers in several international pies.

 

(The bridge looked familiar anyway)

 

http://www.pearson-eng.com/products/bridge-launch-mechanism/

 

I think they used to be, back when they were making the Mineplows in the 1980's.. And judging by their location, this would appear to be another of those surviving offshoots of Vickers Armstrong.

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This photo is a few weeks old but it shows the M1130 Stryker Command Vehicle to excellent effect, on exercise alongside a Georgian BMP-2:

 

 

 

Also of (minor) note is the BMP-2 having two of its side firing ports open.

 

That is not an 1130.

 

 

it's a M1131 FSV. The CV is based off of the standard 1126 ICV, and has the RWS.

 

 

It has the antennae of the CV and I had read that neither the M1130 nor the M1131 had an RWS, Nor do I see the M1131 Fire Support Sensor system in the photo. So I must ask for more info before I can make a correction, because as of now my IDing still seems solid to me.

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This photo is a few weeks old but it shows the M1130 Stryker Command Vehicle to excellent effect, on exercise alongside a Georgian BMP-2:

 

 

 

Also of (minor) note is the BMP-2 having two of its side firing ports open.

 

That is not an 1130.

 

 

it's a M1131 FSV. The CV is based off of the standard 1126 ICV, and has the RWS.

 

 

It has the antennae of the CV and I had read that neither the M1130 nor the M1131 had an RWS, Nor do I see the M1131 Fire Support Sensor system in the photo. So I must ask for more info before I can make a correction, because as of now my IDing still seems solid to me.

 

 

Unfortunately, your "IDing" is far from solid.

 

The key indicator in your picture is the cupola - only two variants have it, the RV and FSV - the port side squad leader's roof hatch is also deleted on these variants. The M2 in your photo is pintle-mounted, again unique to the RV/FSV. The vehicle commander is operating the FS3 in the picture.

 

Antenna configuration is also unique to the FSV, - it has 4 radio whips (versus 2 in the RV) because of the multiplexer, two additional radios, and digital comms equipment the RV doesn't carry. Either way, there should be 5 showing in the photo above - someone didn't attach the EPLRs antenna.

 

As I stated earlier, the CV is based off of the infantry carrier, which has the RWS. Totally different beast.

 

I am not just pulling this out of my ass - I spent 12 years as an FO in three Stryker brigades, both active and National Guard. I have operated and trained soldiers to operate every variant of the vehicle as a Stryker Master Trainer.

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This photo is a few weeks old but it shows the M1130 Stryker Command Vehicle to excellent effect, on exercise alongside a Georgian BMP-2:

 

 

 

Also of (minor) note is the BMP-2 having two of its side firing ports open.

 

That is not an 1130.

 

 

it's a M1131 FSV. The CV is based off of the standard 1126 ICV, and has the RWS.

 

 

It has the antennae of the CV and I had read that neither the M1130 nor the M1131 had an RWS, Nor do I see the M1131 Fire Support Sensor system in the photo. So I must ask for more info before I can make a correction, because as of now my IDing still seems solid to me.

 

 

Unfortunately, your "IDing" is far from solid.

 

The key indicator in your picture is the cupola - only two variants have it, the RV and FSV - the port side squad leader's roof hatch is also deleted on these variants. The M2 in your photo is pintle-mounted, again unique to the RV/FSV. The vehicle commander is operating the FS3 in the picture.

 

Antenna configuration is also unique to the FSV, - it has 4 radio whips (versus 2 in the RV) because of the multiplexer, two additional radios, and digital comms equipment the RV doesn't carry. Either way, there should be 5 showing in the photo above - someone didn't attach the EPLRs antenna.

 

As I stated earlier, the CV is based off of the infantry carrier, which has the RWS. Totally different beast.

 

I am not just pulling this out of my ass - I spent 12 years as an FO in three Stryker brigades, both active and National Guard. I have operated and trained soldiers to operate every variant of the vehicle as a Stryker Master Trainer.

 

I studied some of the available visuals and you have the right of it: The depicted Stryker is indeed a M1131 FSV. I had made my ID based on a book I read and own a copy of but it is clear that the author was in error where the M1130 weapons mount is concerned. I was not trying to disparage your knowledge and I apologize if I did so.

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I'm not sure about the Stryker idea seen at DSEI this week, but it does show applied thought regarding recent uses of small and medium-sized UAVs by many nations and factions:

 

 

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DSEI 2017: T-REX makes an entrance into C-UAS

13th September 2017 - 02:09 GMT | by Andrew White in London

 

 

Orbital ATK has unveiled its Tactical Robotic Exterminator (T-REX) counter-unmanned aerial system (C-UAS) concept at DSEI in London.

 

The T-REX concept, displayed in a scale-model form factor at DSEI in London, has been designed for a US Department of Defense (DoD) urgent operational requirement to provide a mobile C-UAS solution integrated on board infantry and armoured fighting vehicles.

 

Orbital ATK’s T-REX concept comprises the integration of the Liteye mast-mounted C-UAS solution on board a Stryker vehicle with networked M230LF 30mm cannon.

 

Speaking to Shephard, Orbital ATK’s Senior Business Development Manager for Armament Systems, Jeffrey Tipton, described how the T-REX would be demonstrated for the first-time next week in the US with the DoD’s Program Director for Counter-Rockets, Artillery and Mortars (PD C-RAM) expected to announce a contract sometime between January and March next year.

 

PC C-RAM is understood to be considering the procurement of ten C-UAS systems and with ten accompanying weapon systems for immediate integration and deployment into theatres, providing force protection for coalition troops with options for both kinetic and non-kinetic effectors.

 

The Liteye C-UAS solution comprises a variant of the Anti UAV Defence System (AUDS) developed by Chess Dynamics, Blighter Surveillance and Enterprise Control Systems.

 

The holistic solution incorporates the Blighter A400 Series Air Security Radar; Hawkeye DS and Electro-Optical Video Tracker; and Directional RF Inhibitor, providing a capability to identify, track and disrupt UAS employed by enemy forces across the battlefield.

 

‘Our new Liteye C-UAS system is designed to detect, track and defeat UAS engaged in hostile airborne surveillance and potentially malicious activity,’ company literature explained. ‘

 

Industry sources explained to Shephard that undisclosed numbers of mast-mounted AUDS systems have already been deployed to the Middle East in support of coalition operations against the self-proclaimed Islamic State (IS). This has included mobile solutions mounted on FMTV protected vehicles.

 

However, this latest effort by the DoD will see the C-UAS system mounted on a fighting vehicle for the first time.

 

Additionally, Orbital ATK has started the development of a proximity fuse 30mm round, designed to specifically support C-UAS fire missions, Tipton added. Once networked to the C-UAS, it is envisioned that the 30mm cannon will fire three to five round bursts of fire in order to effectively neutralise target UASs.

 

Also involved in the development of T-REX is EOS, which is working on the integration of the 30mm cannon remote weapon station towards the front end of the vehicle; as well as Pratt & Miller which has upgraded the suspension system of the Stryker IFV to support carriage of the 1,000lb mast-mounted C-UAS solution, which is fixed to the rear of the vehicle.

 

The article doesn't mention the horsepower of the engine of the proposed Stryker variant or if it will have the double-v bottom. As for me, I think putting the C-UAS system on the same vehicle as a 30mm cannon is a potentially bad idea in a near-peer conflict as the cannon armed vehicles may find themselves ordered forward to deal with enemy IFVS also armed with with autocannons. I'd rather link the C_UAS to Stryker Dragoons via a datalink (though that itself raises jamming risks).

 

What do others here think of this concept?

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I was reading the Wikipedia article on the Fox armoured car the other night and was somewhat shocked to read that the Rarden 30mm was actually loaded with clips of 3 rounds each? Somewhat echoing the post made previously considering dual-feeding; was there a real reason why the Rarden was clip-fed instead of belt-fed? Was clip-loading a standard for all Rarden-armed AFV's?

 

Indeed the turret of a Scimitar light tank really is tiny. Although the Soviets did manage to somehow shoehorn a 2A42 into a one-man turret and stick it onto a modified BMD-1 hull (and the BMD-2 was born).

All Rarden were clip loaded it's part of the gun design the gun could hold five rounds internally held horizontally above the gun so the crew could top off the internal magazine. For the size of rounds it was a very compact,powerful with little recoil and very accurate when paired with a good sight. The rate of fire wasn't so hot it was a long recoil so it couldn't be sped up so having it belt feed wouldn't really improve its rate of fire plus the belt feed mechanism would take up valuable space.

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How often can a 10m long bridge come into play? Seems like such a pitifully short distance. I'm guessing there's been some research done that shows a bridge of x length would be used y times in a combat environment. 10m is all they really need to justify this thing's existence?

Fairly common size for modular bridging here, 10, 20 and 40m lengths

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I was reading the Wikipedia article on the Fox armoured car the other night and was somewhat shocked to read that the Rarden 30mm was actually loaded with clips of 3 rounds each? Somewhat echoing the post made previously considering dual-feeding; was there a real reason why the Rarden was clip-fed instead of belt-fed? Was clip-loading a standard for all Rarden-armed AFV's?

 

Indeed the turret of a Scimitar light tank really is tiny. Although the Soviets did manage to somehow shoehorn a 2A42 into a one-man turret and stick it onto a modified BMD-1 hull (and the BMD-2 was born).

All Rarden were clip loaded it's part of the gun design the gun could hold five rounds internally held horizontally above the gun so the crew could top off the internal magazine. For the size of rounds it was a very compact,powerful with little recoil and very accurate when paired with a good sight. The rate of fire wasn't so hot it was a long recoil so it couldn't be sped up so having it belt feed wouldn't really improve its rate of fire plus the belt feed mechanism would take up valuable space.

But once a clip was loaded you couldn't switch ammunition types, correct? So, max out the load, you're screwed if you have switch from HE to AP, fir example.

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I was reading the Wikipedia article on the Fox armoured car the other night and was somewhat shocked to read that the Rarden 30mm was actually loaded with clips of 3 rounds each? Somewhat echoing the post made previously considering dual-feeding; was there a real reason why the Rarden was clip-fed instead of belt-fed? Was clip-loading a standard for all Rarden-armed AFV's?

 

Indeed the turret of a Scimitar light tank really is tiny. Although the Soviets did manage to somehow shoehorn a 2A42 into a one-man turret and stick it onto a modified BMD-1 hull (and the BMD-2 was born).

All Rarden were clip loaded it's part of the gun design the gun could hold five rounds internally held horizontally above the gun so the crew could top off the internal magazine. For the size of rounds it was a very compact,powerful with little recoil and very accurate when paired with a good sight. The rate of fire wasn't so hot it was a long recoil so it couldn't be sped up so having it belt feed wouldn't really improve its rate of fire plus the belt feed mechanism would take up valuable space.
Don't think long recoil action has anything to do with not being compatible with belt feeding, since the Russian 2A72 is belt fed, has a higher rate of fire, weighs less and is smaller than the RARDEN. Being clip fed is probably RARDEN's biggest weakness. In a small one-man turret, the gunner can't concentrate on engaging targets because he has to top up the cannon every few shots, and the low rate of fire makes it less efficient against infantry.

 

And as 2805662 pointed out, it's not a dual feed system, so if you're firing at an infantry platoon have HE loaded and the BMP attached to the platoon suddenly popped up, you have to fire 8 HE rounds at it before you can get to the AP, and you'd have to load the AP clip first. That's a lot of valuable time wasted doing nothing to the BMP...

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Thanks for the replies with regards to the Rarden and being clip-fed. Certainly in a one-man turret, sacrifices are going to have to be made in order to save space although the Russians still managed it in the BMD-2 turret with the 2A42. No doubt not an ideal solution but one required at the time before the development/fielding of the BMD-3...

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The Rarden has 3 round clips. You put the second clip in after the first round is chambered by a manual crank. After that first round, provided you feed it a new clip every three rounds fired it autofeeds. Technically this means you can change natures every three rounds, but the army doesn't select for psychics.

 

Of course, Rarden is on the way out. Its CTS all the way down in future.

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The Rarden has 3 round clips. You put the second clip in after the first round is chambered by a manual crank. After that first round, provided you feed it a new clip every three rounds fired it autofeeds. Technically this means you can change natures every three rounds, but the army doesn't select for psychics.

 

Of course, Rarden is on the way out. Its CTS all the way down in future.

 

CTA?

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On the subject of 30mm cannons:

 

 

Orbital ATK rolls out XM813 automatic cannon for US Army Strykers

 

Orbital ATK Armament Systems is ramping up production of their latest 30 mm calibre XM813 Bushmaster dual feed automatic cannon.

 

The weapon will first be installed in the Kongsberg Medium Calibre Remote Controlled Turret (MC-RCT) installed on the latest General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) 8x8 Stryker XM1296 as part of the US Army’s Stryker Lethality Upgrade Programme (Stryker LUP).

 

Orbital ATK Armament Systems is under contract to supply a total of 95 XM813 weapons to GDLS for the Stryker LUP.

 

The first batch of 12 XM813 weapons has already been supplied for the engineering, manufacturing, and development (EMD) phase which is now completed.

 

The company was then awarded a production contract to supply the remaining 83 weapons with deliveries having commenced in June and expected to be completed in March 2018.

 

The MC-RCT is also armed with a 7.62 mm machine gun (MG), banks of electrically operated grenade launchers and with gunners stabilised day/night sight to the right of the XM813.

 

The 30 mm XM813 barrel is chrome lined and heavier than the 30 mm MK44, and features a muzzle brake as well as a new dual recoil system.

 

An important feature of the MC-RCT is that the weapons can be loaded from under armour. The Meggitt linkless ammunition feed system has two ammunition boxes, each holding 150 rounds of ready use ammunition.

 

The dual feed system provides the gunner ‘true’ first round select capability, which is the ability to select and fire a round from either ammunition box without sacrificing a round that has previously been chambered.

 

In addition to firing the standard natures of 30x173 mm ammunition such as high-explosive incendiary (HE-I), high-explosive incendiary-tracer (HEI-T), high-explosive incendiary-tracer/self-destruct (HEI-T/SD), and associated training ammunition, the XM813 can also fire the 30 mm MK310 programmable air burst munition-traced (PABM-T).

 

We also have this report (really an 'advertorial') from DSEI over in the UK:

 

 

Cannon ready to fire [DSEI17D1]

 

 

 

Under an Urgent Needs Requirement, the US Army 2nd Cavalry Regiment in Europe is to rapidly acquire a batch of Stryker (8x8) infantry combat vehicles fitted with the Kongsberg Medium Calibre Remote Weapon Station (MCRWS) armed with the latest Orbital ATK Armament Systems (Stand S2-266) 30mm XM813 cannon and a 7.62mm coaxial machine gun.

 

General Dynamics Land Systems has a contract for eight prototype/pre-production Stryker vehicles, which will be followed by 83 production units, with this version of the Stryker having the designation XM1296.

 

Kongsberg is supplying the MCRWS as a subcontractor, as is Orbital ATK the XM813, which is a dual-feed cannon that has a new dual recoil system to enable it to be installed in the MCRWS. The XM813 also has a heavier barrel.

 

The Meggitt linkless ammunition feed system has two ammunition boxes each containing 150 rounds, which can be reloaded from within the platform under armour protection. As well as firing all natures of 30x173mm ammunition, it will fire a 30mm programmable air burst munition − tracer (PABM-T), designated the MK310, which is fully qualified. The PABM-T round is fitted with a turns counting fuze, providing the weapon with a capability to burst over the ground and neutralise the enemy in a defilade position.

 

If required, the 30mm XM813 could be upgunned for 40mm ammunition by changing just five parts of the existing gun.

 

So there's the XM813. It's much larger than the old RARDEN, but it is much better suited for an APC as well.

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On the subject of 30mm cannons:

 

 

Orbital ATK rolls out XM813 automatic cannon for US Army Strykers

 

Orbital ATK Armament Systems is ramping up production of their latest 30 mm calibre XM813 Bushmaster dual feed automatic cannon.

 

The weapon will first be installed in the Kongsberg Medium Calibre Remote Controlled Turret (MC-RCT) installed on the latest General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) 8x8 Stryker XM1296 as part of the US Army’s Stryker Lethality Upgrade Programme (Stryker LUP).

 

Orbital ATK Armament Systems is under contract to supply a total of 95 XM813 weapons to GDLS for the Stryker LUP.

 

The first batch of 12 XM813 weapons has already been supplied for the engineering, manufacturing, and development (EMD) phase which is now completed.

 

The company was then awarded a production contract to supply the remaining 83 weapons with deliveries having commenced in June and expected to be completed in March 2018.

 

The MC-RCT is also armed with a 7.62 mm machine gun (MG), banks of electrically operated grenade launchers and with gunners stabilised day/night sight to the right of the XM813.

 

The 30 mm XM813 barrel is chrome lined and heavier than the 30 mm MK44, and features a muzzle brake as well as a new dual recoil system.

 

An important feature of the MC-RCT is that the weapons can be loaded from under armour. The Meggitt linkless ammunition feed system has two ammunition boxes, each holding 150 rounds of ready use ammunition.

 

The dual feed system provides the gunner ‘true’ first round select capability, which is the ability to select and fire a round from either ammunition box without sacrificing a round that has previously been chambered.

 

In addition to firing the standard natures of 30x173 mm ammunition such as high-explosive incendiary (HE-I), high-explosive incendiary-tracer (HEI-T), high-explosive incendiary-tracer/self-destruct (HEI-T/SD), and associated training ammunition, the XM813 can also fire the 30 mm MK310 programmable air burst munition-traced (PABM-T).

 

We also have this report (really an 'advertorial') from DSEI over in the UK:

 

 

Cannon ready to fire [DSEI17D1]

 

 

 

Under an Urgent Needs Requirement, the US Army 2nd Cavalry Regiment in Europe is to rapidly acquire a batch of Stryker (8x8) infantry combat vehicles fitted with the Kongsberg Medium Calibre Remote Weapon Station (MCRWS) armed with the latest Orbital ATK Armament Systems (Stand S2-266) 30mm XM813 cannon and a 7.62mm coaxial machine gun.

 

General Dynamics Land Systems has a contract for eight prototype/pre-production Stryker vehicles, which will be followed by 83 production units, with this version of the Stryker having the designation XM1296.

 

Kongsberg is supplying the MCRWS as a subcontractor, as is Orbital ATK the XM813, which is a dual-feed cannon that has a new dual recoil system to enable it to be installed in the MCRWS. The XM813 also has a heavier barrel.

 

The Meggitt linkless ammunition feed system has two ammunition boxes each containing 150 rounds, which can be reloaded from within the platform under armour protection. As well as firing all natures of 30x173mm ammunition, it will fire a 30mm programmable air burst munition − tracer (PABM-T), designated the MK310, which is fully qualified. The PABM-T round is fitted with a turns counting fuze, providing the weapon with a capability to burst over the ground and neutralise the enemy in a defilade position.

 

If required, the 30mm XM813 could be upgunned for 40mm ammunition by changing just five parts of the existing gun.

 

So there's the XM813. It's much larger than the old RARDEN, but it is much better suited for an APC as well.

 

 

Presumably 2nd Squadron will be first getting this, which was is forming the basis for the EFP Poland Battalion. Not sure a Stryker Battalion is a great basis for a forward based unit, but at least its going have British Recce vehicles backing them up with 40mm's.

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And while the XM1296 Stryker Dragoon will be fielded quickly, the change over of another Stryker brigade to the Double-V Hull will not be as swift:

 

 

First US Army upgraded Stryker DVH rolls through production

Production has begun for the US Army’s fourth Stryker Double V-Hull brigade, which will be the first to incorporate new updates to the wheeled combat vehicles.

 

First production A1-configured Stryker is slated to roll off the assembly line in September, Gordon Stein, General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) vice-president of Stryker and specialty wheeled vehicles, told Jane’s on 22 September.

 

GDLS expects to deliver an average of 10 vehicles monthly, which would mean all the fourth brigade’s vehicles (a brigade includes about 330 Strykers) could be accumulated for fielding by 2020.

 

The US Army acquisition executive officially approved procurement of a fourth brigade of the more heavily armoured DVH vehicles in October 2014.

 

 

 

The reason for the low production rate is the uneven money supply caused by Congress' budget follies. By keeping a uniform, but lower, production rate, General Dynamics can set production targets it will meet even if the US defense budget is under a Continuing Resolution for 1/3 of a year.

 

Needs must when the Congress DERPs.

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The beginning and end of this piece go over things that have already been posted here, but the middle has some useful info:

 

 

Army Fires New Stryker 30mm Cannon - Preps for Major Land War

 

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Combat Uses for 30mm Stryker

 

Many US military and industry weapons developers, those conducting threat assessments, analysts and technology observers believe the enhanced lethality Stryker could greatly impact a broad landscape of factors informing future land war – particularly for infantry, maneuver warfare and joint air-ground operations. ( For Scout Warrior's Previous Report on How Stryker 30mm Cannon Changes Infantry Combat - CLICK HERE)

 

A senior Army official told Warrior that, in addition to bringing a far-superior ground-combat weapon to the vehicle, the Stryker-integrated 30mm cannon could also function as a ground and air-defense countermeasure in some combat circumstances.

 

“Near-peer threats from the air such as rockets, missiles and artillery are moving to the forefront. A small bullet may not take out a large weapon, but let’s knock smaller attacks out of the air with a 30mm round or laser weapon. Let’s have multiple countermeasures,” a senior Army official told Warrior in an interview. “Indirect fires is a big deal. You still have to maneuver and close with the enemy when you are facing adversaries with more capable fires in their quiver. You have to protect the force with your own fires.”

 

The senior Army weapons, doctrine and tactics developer explained these Stryker combat-upgrades in terms of a wide-ranging technology “mash up” including sensors, countermeasures, fire-control system and next-generation ammunition able to destroy a wider range of enemy targets.

 

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One analyst who closely tracks emerging technologies, weapons programs and potential threats to the US military specified aerial attacks as a fast-growing area of great risk to Army ground forces.

 

“The most important new threat U.S. combat vehicles will face from overhead on future battlefields is unmanned aerial systems -- drones. Their low cost enables an enemy to fill the sky with unmanned systems carrying anti-armor weapons, while their small size and low altitudes would make interception by friendly tactical aircraft very challenging,” said Loren Thompson, Chief Operating Officer, The Lexington Institute, a Wash. D.C.-based think tank.

 

In essence, the Stryker’s 30mm cannon could operate as part of a broader, integrated weapons strategy – aligning with commensurate Army efforts to quickly develop and test Stryker-mounted, drone-killing laser weapons and a wide range of potential Short Range Air Defense, or SHORAD, weapons options. (For Scout Warrior's Report on Hellfire-Mounted Stryker - CLICK HERE) -- ( For Scout Warrior's Report on the Stryker Laser Weapon - CLICK HERE)

 

“The intent of these upgrades is to provide sufficient fire support for infantry and scout Soldiers as they dismount in close proximity to the enemy or while mounted,” Givens said.

 

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A new airburst round for the 30mm cannon, using a “proximity fuse,” is regarded by Army and industry developers alike as a substantial combat-enhancing innovation of great relevance to the Stryker lethality program.

 

By being able to detonate near or in the vicinity of enemy targets, and not needing to purely rely upon point-detonation or impact explosions, airburst ammunition massively widens the target envelope - enabling the weapon to fire through windows, attack enemy drones and hit aircraft without requiring an exact intercept. Airburst weapons can destroy enemies behind rocks or walls, the senior Army official said.

 

Airburst often relies upon laser rangefinder technology, a method of calculating the exact distance to a desired target area. The Army XM 25 airburst weapon, used effectively against Taliban fighters hiding behind walls in Afghanistan, relies upon laser rangefinder technology. Since the speed of light is a known entity, and the time of travel is also quantifiable, an algorithm is then able to precisely calculate the distance of an enemy target area – thus accurately targeting the round, according to Army scientists.

 

The last time the Army qualified a new ground, direct-fire weapons system was when the M256 cannon was integrated on the M1 Abrams tank in the 1980s, service officials said.

 

So it does appear that, small size aside, 30mm proximity fused rounds are something the US Army very much wants.

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The beginning and end of this piece go over things that have already been posted here, but the middle has some useful info:

 

 

 

The last time the Army qualified a new ground, direct-fire weapons system was when the M256 cannon was integrated on the M1 Abrams tank in the 1980s, service officials said.

 

So it does appear that, small size aside, 30mm proximity fused rounds are something the US Army very much wants.

 

Pretty sure the Stryker MGS 105mm M68A2 was qualfied long after the M256.

 

Proximity seems unlikely in a 30mm and would be useless on its own for counter-defilade use - surely they really mean timed airburst?

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The beginning and end of this piece go over things that have already been posted here, but the middle has some useful info:

 

 

 

The last time the Army qualified a new ground, direct-fire weapons system was when the M256 cannon was integrated on the M1 Abrams tank in the 1980s, service officials said.

 

So it does appear that, small size aside, 30mm proximity fused rounds are something the US Army very much wants.

 

Pretty sure the Stryker MGS 105mm M68A2 was qualfied long after the M256.

 

Proximity seems unlikely in a 30mm and would be useless on its own for counter-defilade use - surely they really mean timed airburst?

 

 

That's a separate round actually. The proximity fused rounds are for use against UAVs and other aircraft. A 30mm shell going off next it will wreck any small or medium sized UAV.

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