DKTanker Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) So as I understand it, the big take away is that Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice, and the proof of his guilt is the absence of evidence against him. Mueller knew he was guilty, he couldn't find the evidence to support his conclusion, therefor he concluded that Trump did in fact obstruct justice, he just couldn't prove it. DA: You're guiltyDefendant: What's the evidence?DA: There is no evidence, that is the evidence. Edited April 18, 2019 by DKTanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Trump is the epitome of everything bad about N.Y.C. He is a wealthy crooked version of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQfASpUYKSUCrooked eh? in the most mobbed up 'occupation' in one of the most mobbed up cities in the Eastern Seaboard and neither the unions nor the pols nor the mob could lay a finger on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I thought we were investigating treasonous collusion with the Russians to rig an election and steal the Presidency and yet we always end up with "Orange Man Bad" as the proof. My favorite part:REPORTER: Are you trying to protect the president?BARR: I told you what is in the report, what's wrong with that?R: You face an unprecedented situationBARR: Is there another precedent for it?R: NoBARR: Unprecedented is an accurate description thenR: Yeah, but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalkre Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Immoral but non-criminal behavior! In other words Trump is a ... politician. Oh, the horror. I'm curious if his supporters will ever admit he can be bad and immoral. I don't know many trumpers who will say he's a moral man. Most Trump fans I know see him as an imperfect vessel for the policies and attitudes they want. From my own experience the above is rare. It's a bit reassuring to hear accounts like this, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R011 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Earlier this month the US visa of an ICC prosecutor was revoked when she attempted to investigate alleged war crimes in Afghanistan. https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/05/world/europe/us-icc-prosecutor-afghanistan.amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwj5xbqO89nhAhWK16QKHbDNBL8QFjABegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2-7gQyvu8o0L4aq2_YUzww&cf=1 Apparently the US and the ICC differ in what they perceive as war crimes.It would be interesting to read an account from a non partisan source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloMorai Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 It is hard to get a Mafia Don as it is his lackeys who take the fall for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 It is hard to get a Mafia Don as it is his lackeys who take the fall for him.Go ahead, explain. Explain just who it is that has fallen on their sword for Trump, and the crime they were found guilty of instead of Trump being found guilty for that crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Immoral but non-criminal behavior! In other words Trump is a ... politician. Oh, the horror. I'm curious if his supporters will ever admit he can be bad and immoral. I'm pretty sure they're aware and can do so. The point is though that the left has been BIG on allowing immoral behavior. Trump is the response to that. What's appalling is that the left wants acceptance for groups like homosexuals. When you have a republican who has a family member who is gay, what does the left do? Attempt to make that person's gay sexuality a political issue. This demonstrates that the left doesn't give a SHIT about those groups. They just use their protection as a political club to beat the opposition. The first chance they get to use it as a wedge or as a club the other way, they have ZERO qualms. So, no, at this point, I don't give a rat's ass that Trump banged a porn star. That's between him and Mrs Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Trump is the epitome of everything bad about N.Y.C. He is a wealthy crooked version of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQfASpUYKSU Regressive fever dreams. Trump doens't care if you're gay, straight, black, white or what ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G. Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 It is hard to get a Mafia Don as it is his lackeys who take the fall for him.Go ahead, explain. Explain just who it is that has fallen on their sword for Trump, and the crime they were found guilty of instead of Trump being found guilty for that crime.You think Michael Cohen made those payments on his own? Lol. Why do you think Trump had him as his personal lawyer for 10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G. Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Immoral but non-criminal behavior! In other words Trump is a ... politician. Oh, the horror. I'm curious if his supporters will ever admit he can be bad and immoral. Bad and immoral is ok as long as liberal tears. Partisanship/tribalism is everything when your self identity starts with an L, D, R, or a C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G. Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Trump is the epitome of everything bad about N.Y.C. He is a wealthy crooked version of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQfASpUYKSURegressive fever dreams. Trump doens't care if you're gay, straight, black, white or what ever.No, he does care, include female in that list. It just pales in comparison to if you stroke his ego or bruise it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G. Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 So as I understand it, the big take away is that Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice, and the proof of his guilt is the absence of evidence against him. Mueller knew he was guilty, he couldn't find the evidence to support his conclusion, therefor he concluded that Trump did in fact obstruct justice, he just couldn't prove it. DA: You're guiltyDefendant: What's the evidence?DA: There is no evidence, that is the evidence.You lack of understanding knows no bounds. Trump is not "guilty of obstruction". There was no "no evidence" of obstruction Mueller didn't "know" Trump was guilty, unless you can read his mind. He found plenty of evidence of obstruction, but it was Trump's erratic public behavior and lack of a deliberate coordination effort that resulted in not indicting on obstruction. This is all available in open source reading, so I can only guess what information you base your misunderstandings on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoFiveMike Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 You never, ever, talk to a Fed. The shitlibs are all butthurt that the Trump camp didn't just surrender or roll over for them. Like the GOP normally does, in their role as the Washington Generals. S/F...Ken M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Word is that Andrew Weissman who is the corrupt persecutor of Enron was so mad that he could not get Trump, that he made sure that the final report f**ked Trump by declining to find on obstruction. That is what I expected, and people like Rush had been cautioning about, that they would make the report a poison pen to get Trump anyway. In the end Trump won, the Enemies of the People lost, and now the reckoning begins. I am so looking forward to Comey, McCabe, Ohr, Clinton, et al wearing orange jump suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim the Tank Nut Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 remember what Weissman did to the Arthur Anderson Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G. Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Word is that Andrew Weissman who is the corrupt persecutor of Enron was so mad that he could not get Trump, that he made sure that the final report f**ked Trump by declining to find on obstruction. That is what I expected, and people like Rush had been cautioning about, that they would make the report a poison pen to get Trump anyway. In the end Trump won, the Enemies of the People lost, and now the reckoning begins. I am so looking forward to Comey, McCabe, Ohr, Clinton, et al wearing orange jump suits. None of them are going to wear orange jumpsuits. Many of Trump's staff are however. Including his personal "fixer" of ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 remember what Weissman did to the Arthur Anderson CompanyTrue and he is proof why the US Attorney system needs to be brought to heel. Brennan, Clapper, et al will really look shocked when the handcuffs go on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 remember what Weissman did to the Arthur Anderson CompanyTrue and he is proof why the US Attorney system needs to be brought to heel. Brennan, Clapper, et al will really look shocked when the handcuffs go on..... Let's hope they get the Manafort treatment, early morning SWAT teams and solitary confinement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 remember what Weissman did to the Arthur Anderson CompanyTrue and he is proof why the US Attorney system needs to be brought to heel. Brennan, Clapper, et al will really look shocked when the handcuffs go on..... Let's hope they get the Manafort treatment, early morning SWAT teams and solitary confinement. With lots of flash bangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I think Rush has it right, Trump did attempt obstruction. He attempted to obstruct a coup perpetrated by the Obama DoJ and cheered on by GOP NeverTrumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I think Rush has it right, Trump did attempt obstruction. He attempted to obstruct a coup perpetrated by the Obama DoJ and cheered on by GOP NeverTrumpers.Absolutely. The Obama DOj, Obama IC, Obama FBI, and the GOP Never Trumpers committed treason, and tried to overthrown a duly elected president. Can you imagine the howls if Trump had been a Democrat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 F**cking POS Mitt Romney, he really is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 F**cking POS Mitt Romney, he really is worthless.`We dodged a couple bullets between him and McCain. At least with Obama there was no confusion as to him being the enemy of conservatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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