Murph Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 God-Emperor level trolling: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1116817144006750209 Ilhan-Omar is just a terrorist apologist, how she got elected I'll never know. She loves Hezbollah, Hamas, and hates Israel. Perfect for the Democrats. "On 9-11 Some People did something...." https://twitter.com/ForAmerica/status/1116498204835631104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Looks like the next anti-Trump trope will be inciting agents to break the law, as he challenges the influence of activist judges:https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/12/report-trump-told-dhs-official-hed-pardon-got-legal-trouble-blocking-immigrants-entering/?fbclid=IwAR3mq7Ky665X5u5pf3DjfCblTVEkTedpA64DIR35jDB0uqGea2uExeTqTHcReport: Trump told DHS official he’d pardon him if he got into legal trouble for blocking immigrants from entering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 God-Emperor level trolling: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1116817144006750209 Ilhan-Omar is just a terrorist apologist, how she got elected I'll never know. She loves Hezbollah, Hamas, and hates Israel. Perfect for the Democrats. "On 9-11 Some People did something...." https://twitter.com/ForAmerica/status/1116498204835631104 She is the result of self hating descendants of Scandinavians doing their best to turn Minneapolis into downtown Mogadishu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 God-Emperor level trolling: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1116817144006750209 Ilhan-Omar is just a terrorist apologist, how she got elected I'll never know. She loves Hezbollah, Hamas, and hates Israel. Perfect for the Democrats. "On 9-11 Some People did something...." https://twitter.com/ForAmerica/status/1116498204835631104 She accurately reflects the beliefs of a majority of her constituents. She is not a "one off", but a reflection of many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrunt6 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 âAnd, why does he always look constipated?I like dogs, but owning them is kinda overrated. too much mess and noise for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 What's taking him so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobu Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) When I was a kid I worked in a pharmacy across the street from section 8 apartments. EBT users would come in and buy our even more expensive than usual junk food, candy, and soda with their EBT cards instead of making the effort to go down the road a short distance where they could get it much cheaper. Then when checking out, they would pull out thick wads of cash, all to often out of their sweaty cleavage, to buy their Newport cigarettes. I am not going to say that all recipients of SNAP and EBT are gaming the system, but when an establishment specializing in more-expensive cuts of tuna has a sign posted that it accepts SNAP and EBT, there is gaming of it going on. The last time I was there, about half of those in line were paying with some kind of benefits card. Edited April 14, 2019 by Nobu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 The most common gaming that I know of with EBT is selling the EBT for half its value in real money. Done all the time. So the seller can then buy drugs and alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 The most common gaming that I know of with EBT is selling the EBT for half its value in real money. Done all the time. So the seller can then buy drugs and alcohol. Ever notice that while we have doom and gloom articles and discussions about SSN and Medicare soon running out of money, there is never a discussion about the unpaid entitlements such as EBT, WIC, public housing et al, running out of money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burncycle360 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 A society can only so many unproductive members before it ceases to function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobu Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Medicare and SSN are not benefits of a select, protected class. EBT, SNAP, and the American public housing system are. Another reason why I would actually be ok with a universal basic income, as that would smash the racial lines that mark the EBT/SNAP class's territory. The most common gaming that I know of with EBT is selling the EBT for half its value in real money. Have seen and been approached with offers to buy food stamp cards in Hawaii. Am unsure of how that might work, or if ID is necessary to use them, or if I was simply considered a Japanese tourist mark who might actually buy a fake EBT card. One method of gaming the system that is greatly aspired to is to qualify for food stamps, welfare money, full government disability, and government housing before the age of 30. This is where the new cars parked in the projects grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) Medicare and SSN are not benefits of a select, protected class. EBT, SNAP, and the American public housing system are. Another reason why I would actually be ok with a universal basic income, as that would smash the racial lines that mark the EBT/SNAP class's territory.I don't know the long term affect of this. This could just be another route to trouble. A recipient could treat it like an annuity a get lump sum cash for turning it over to a loan company. Then blow the cash amount on something and would in short order be without livable income. Also, this may have a negative effect on working people. If the non-working benefit recipients live in the same neighborhoods as working people they would be able to party day and night while the working stiffs would have to leave each day to go to work and would be kept awake by the noise at night. Edited April 14, 2019 by Mobius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 A society can only so many unproductive members before it ceases to function.Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G. Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 A society can only so many unproductive members before it ceases to function.That sounds like it comes straight out of Mao's red book. Capitalism has always allowed for a bottom class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1070726434648440833 He apparently couldn't directly thank the JSDF for saving the life of the only service member fortunate to survive the accident. Japan just one of those "allies" that serves under USFJ or something I guess.https://www.usfj.mil/Media/Press-Releases/Article-View/Article/1708442/statement-from-the-usfj-commander-ongoing-search-and-rescue-operations/ Edited April 16, 2019 by JasonJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1070726434648440833 He apparently couldn't directly thank the JSDF for saving the life of the only service member fortunate to survive the accident. Japan just one of those "allies" that serves under USFJ or something I guess.https://www.usfj.mil/Media/Press-Releases/Article-View/Article/1708442/statement-from-the-usfj-commander-ongoing-search-and-rescue-operations/ Yeah yeah...I remember a guy on one of the gamer sites I frequent shrieking in rage that Dubya didn't include Canada (or was it Australia?) in his lists of Allies he thank during the War in 'The Stan'. Edited April 17, 2019 by NickM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Well they DID take 5000 wounded. It was hardly as if it was a contribution worth forgetting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Got it, be quiet, obey, don't make the man on top upset. Meanwhile on the China side, Japan is called "lapdog" of US. And that the US is "Japan's big daddy". etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Got it, be quiet, obey, don't make the man on top upset. Meanwhile on the China side, Japan is called "lapdog" of US. And that the US is "Japan's big daddy". etc.The Japanese are the world's superior race, it is therefore beneath you to stigmatize yourself with self-inflicted victimhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) Got it, be quiet, obey, don't make the man on top upset.Meanwhile on the China side, Japan is called "lapdog" of US. And that the US is "Japan's big daddy". etc. The Japanese are the world's superior race, it is therefore beneath you to stigmatize yourself with self-inflicted victimhood.No, just utterly disappointed that this thread has failed to capture even a little geniune interest from some, yet more esteemed, US contingent. http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42676&page=1 Edited April 16, 2019 by JasonJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Well they DID take 5000 wounded. It was hardly as if it was a contribution worth forgetting. This was back when I sort of game a damn, back in 2004--or was the guy who complained an Australian. However I DID recall that I kept it civil, and pointed it out that there was no harm in finding other trading & military partners who were 'better' for their home nation's relationship--and I did quote the 'The Old Crocodile' Botha by saying that eventually national interests will no longer be shared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) Well they DID take 5000 wounded. It was hardly as if it was a contribution worth forgetting. This was back when I sort of game a damn, back in 2004--or was the guy who complained an Australian. However I DID recall that I kept it civil, and pointed it out that there was no harm in finding other trading & military partners who were 'better' for their home nation's relationship--and I did quote the 'The Old Crocodile' Botha by saying that eventually national interests will no longer be shared.For any relation to last, work and communication going into is necessary. Can be the people to people and mil to mil exhanges between countries, or business partners, or marriage. If the communication is not done, then connection breaks apart. Countries are still different than individual people like in a marriage. But shared principles could still form the basis of sharing common interests to maintain close relations with other countries. Should be easy to accept that concept for a country like Canada. As in the general western camp of democracy and liberty, even if countries sometimes cheat on it. Like if it were soldiers from Turkey or Cambodia or something... then maybe, but its Canada. Out there on the ground together with Americans in the sand box. Doesn't mean that the US has to agree to Canada terms regarding things like NAFTA or specific domestic policies related to things like health care or whatever. Politely respect and disagree on those difference while recognizing the common military commitment. Edited April 17, 2019 by JasonJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Well they DID take 5000 wounded. It was hardly as if it was a contribution worth forgetting. This was back when I sort of game a damn, back in 2004--or was the guy who complained an Australian. However I DID recall that I kept it civil, and pointed it out that there was no harm in finding other trading & military partners who were 'better' for their home nation's relationship--and I did quote the 'The Old Crocodile' Botha by saying that eventually national interests will no longer be shared. Ok, I take your point, it was long before the worst happened. But I remember what happened in France around 1964 when De Gaulle told the US Ambassador that all US troops should leave the country. And the Ambassador (or at least I think it was him) quipped if that should include all those Americans lying in military cemeteries. Americans expect, entirely rightly, that their contribution to European security is respected. Im entirely on board with that. Its not unreasonable to expect by the same token Americans appreciate what their allies do for them also. Ive seen not only the contribution to Afghanistan airbrushed, but even wars as far back as Korea. Americans are in love with this myth that their allies spend no time helping with their security. Too many people repeat it as an article of faith, even though you only have to look at the casualty lists to see the lack of reality to it. I dont hold Trump as the only one responsible for that I should add. Its been going on as far back as Bill Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) And should an ally change and become an enemy, just say it then and there. "You were cool but no more". Eazy Peazy. Edited April 17, 2019 by JasonJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Ok, so maybe this isnt helping any.... I keep thinking back to Geoff might say. If he thought we were playing this game of taking lumps out of each other based on the amount of dead we have, I dont think he would be too impressed. So perhaps we should just appreciate each other as allies more and not go there? Thats all im trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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