Because Trump 2.0

[sunday]

Soot is what makes kettles and pots black, I think.

[Stuart Galbraith]

18 hours ago, DKTanker said:

Beware the soothsaying serpent.

Bit of a pity you didnt take that advice before voting for Trump I guess.

Incidentally, there is a very fine podcast you would all do well to listen to. By Gabriel Gatehouse, its called 'The coming Storm' and looked back on the furore after January 6th and the storming of  the Capitol building, and the Qanon mayhem (including Clinton Murder Incorporated and Pizzagate), does a deep dive back to the John Birch Society, setting up the American banking system in the 20's,  before finishing up with Epstein. Its very good. None of you have an real excuse for not listening to it, particularly as he acuses Bill Clinton of rape and gives all the right wingers a good hearing. He doesnt necessarily accept what he is telling them, but he gives them all a good airing anyway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001324r

The point remains, everyone is pointing to the excesses of the left and their radical language. Fair enough, it has happened.  Its clearly skipped all your attention that Trump has been using weaponized language for well over the last 10 years, and nobody here has called him out on it. Indeed, many have emulated him, describing everyone in the left as 'evil' and prescribing the most radical treatments for their folly.

None of this mean Kirk deserved to die. Think of him as collateral damage from all the high yield language. 

 

Edited September 15 by Stuart Galbraith

[rmgill]

My sister made this point. It fails.
 

You ignore Obama (they bring a knife, you bring a gun).  You ignore Biden. You ignore all the other radical, far left democrats encouraging supporters to harass opponents going about their day. 
 

 

Edited September 15 by rmgill

[X-Files]

21 hours ago, Rickard N said:

Ooh, can't even rule that out as a spelling error

As for what I disagree with, his views on the Russia-Ukraine war would be one.

 

So was Kirk's murder justified?

Is the digital gleeful masturbation by Progressive NPCs over his death appropriate?

Are people allowed to have disagreements on some points and still have an opinion?

Have you ever watched any of Kirk's videos?

Have you ever served in the Swedish military? If so, have you ever been deployed?

[These are not rhetorical questions]

Edited September 15 by X-Files

[X-Files]

6 minutes ago, rmgill said:

My sister made this point. It fails.
 

You ignore Obama (they bring a knife, you bring a gun).  You ignore Biden. You ignore all the other radical, far left democrats encouraging supporters to harass opponents going about their day. 
 

 

 

If Stewie didn't cherry pick his examples while simultaneously accusing others of doing the same, he couldn't follow the marching orders of his Progressive masters.

 

[bfng3569]

On 9/14/2025 at 4:53 AM, Rickard N said:

Considering that anyone not being in line with the current president is a communist, that sort of go both ways.

I believe that the political discussion needs to cool the f*** down. Unfortunately this event will not make that happen, I think. I didn't agree with Charlie King's standpoint on many thing, but I REALLY liked him as a person (the person shown in media, I won't claim to know him or even met the guy).
He was around just talking to people. He let people talk and then he made his take on the issue. THAT is what politics should be IMHO.

Was his views "right" (and by that I don't mean correct or wrong but on the non-left part of the political spectrum). Yes I would say that. 

/R

no, it doesn't even come close to 'going both ways' and trying to paint both sides as equally culpable is a big part of the problem.

The 'left' for the better part of ten+ years years has been promoting and promulgating political violence as a means to an end, and this is not the 'far left' or the 'extreme left' or the fring of the party, its been the main stream leaders and most prominent voices of the party.

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/52960-charlie-kirk-americans-political-violence-poll

you should watch the full clip, Bill M. sums things up pretty well.

 

[sunday]

The future Mrs. Ivanhoe?

 

[Stargrunt6]

1 hour ago, sunday said:

The future Mrs. Ivanhoe?

 

Excuse me, but the good sir is already spoken for. 

 

 

[Tim the Tank Nut]

I thought he was seeing that good jeans lady...

[sunday]

33 minutes ago, Stargrunt6 said:

Excuse me, but the good sir is already spoken for. 

Future Mrs. Stargrunt, then.

[Ivanhoe]

33 minutes ago, Stargrunt6 said:

Excuse me, but the good sir is already spoken for. 

 

 

Good lookin' gal, but I doubt her dowry will meet my needs. 

Ms. Sweeney will definitely be on the short list to become Lady Ivanhoe. A woman who can gift me a 296 GTB without checking her bank balance is the kind of woman I can build a life with. 

 

[Ivanhoe]

https://usawatchdog.com/trump-inherits-turd-of-an-economy-ed-dowd/

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Former Wall Street money manager Ed Dowd is a skillful financial analyst who said in May the economy was skidding.  Now, Dowd predicts the economy is poised to “roll over” and soon.  Why is the Fed cutting rates with a record high DOW?  Maybe they see the same thing he does.  Dowd explains, “Real weekly wage growth was minus 2% going into the election.  It is also interesting to know that minus 2% number of wage growth was also in 1980 when Ronald Reagan won in a landslide and also in 1992 when Bill Clinton won in a landslide. . . . I have never seen such blatant manipulation of government statistics.  There is government spending and government hiring to paper over what is truly a bad economy for the average man. 

 

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The other big problem that Trump needs to get in front of is the CV19 bioweapon vax disaster.  Dowd says, “We have been monitoring and tracking excess deaths, disabilities and injuries such as heart attacks, neurological problems, cancers and liver issues.  There is a whole host of issues that have gone off the charts since the introduction of the Covid vaccines.  As of 2023, there was about 1.2 million excess deaths in the US.  There were about four million disabilities and about 32 million injured. . . .  Our calculations, conservatively speaking, are 8 million to 15 million dead globally, 40 million to 60 million disabled and 500 million to 900 million injured where their immune system is so compromised that they are getting sick all the time. 

Dowd, of course, was a very early mRNA injury hawk. 

 

[DKTanker]

7 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Bit of a pity you didnt take that advice before voting for Trump I guess.

None of this mean Kirk deserved to die. Think of him as collateral damage from all the high yield language. 

Justifying his murder..hmm.  Wednesday September 10, 2025 was an inflection point.  It has provided a point that sharply delineates good from evil.  And be of mind, this inflection point is not a fence, you don't get to straddle it.  You are either on the side of good and find the assassination of Charlie Kirk morally reprehensible, utterly inexcusable, and unjustified, or you're on the side of evil.  Your quibbling about Charlie Kirk's death, Stuart, puts you squarely on the side of evil.  But I, we, didn't need that evidence, simply the fact that you continue to use the Nazi bromides when referring to those with who disagree with you, even in the wake of the Kirk assassination, tells me, tell us, everything we need to know about your moral compass.

[sunday]

29 minutes ago, DKTanker said:

Justifying his murder..hmm. 

Sorry, but no.

Stuart used this sentence:

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Think of him as collateral damage from all the high yield language.

There is no reference to what side that language came from.

Also, we still do not know who, how and why killed Charlie Kirk with absolute certainty.

We know in which side the ghouls celebrating the murder are. Little else. However, that is enough to show to all the world the moral fiber of the most vocal faction of the Democrats.

[Murph]

They’re telling us that they are going to try and murder Donald Trump on 14 December. This is the same site that promised that Charlie Kirk would be murdered on 10 September. Why are these people not already in prison? Why are these people not already under investigation? Why is scum like this even allowed to exist in our country?

 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/x-account-that-predicted-charlie-kirks-assassination-week/

[Murph]

The left has been telling us exactly what they are, why is it so hard to believe them? I take them at their word. I know they wanna kill us. I know they want to commit more murders, I know that the only way they will stop is, if they are utterly crushed to the point where they have no money no supporters no access to the the ability to kill. They need to be repudiated entirely.

[Tim Sielbeck]

24 minutes ago, sunday said:

There is no reference to what side that language came from.

It's still justification.

[Murph]

42 minutes ago, sunday said:

Sorry, but no.

Stuart used this sentence:

There is no reference to what side that language came from.

Also, we still do not know who, how and why killed Charlie Kirk with absolute certainty.

We know in which side the ghouls celebrating the murder are. Little else. However, that is enough to show to all the world the moral fiber of the most vocal faction of the Democrats.

No, no, it shows the world what all Democrats are since I don’t see very many if any actually coming out and taking their side to task other than John Fetterman. It’s hilariously funny when the most sane person in the democrat party is a man with brain damage.

 

[JWB]

A President can't fire just every one.

 

[DKTanker]

3 hours ago, sunday said:

Sorry, but no.

Stuart used this sentence:

There is no reference to what side that language came from.

Also, we still do not know who, how and why killed Charlie Kirk with absolute certainty.

We know in which side the ghouls celebrating the murder are. Little else. However, that is enough to show to all the world the moral fiber of the most vocal faction of the Democrats.

Sorry, but yes.

I'm well aware of the sentence Stuart used and also know that English is not your native language thus might miss his intentional euphemism.  He essentially said, FAFO, or Fuck Around and Find Out.  Or more expansively, Charlie Kirk said things I didn't like and he found out what happens when he does, he gets murdered.

Exactly who were the players on the periphery remains cloudy, who pulled the trigger is absolutely known.  Not only did Tyler Robinson admit to his crime to online friends, he then confessed to his father and then again to a youth pastor.  Apparently it was known by his online community for at least a week (somebody posted about it on September 3, 2025) and there are indications that he didn't act alone, that he had some help.  Also his boyfriend, who is said to be cooperating with the investigation, initially claimed not to have known anything.  That statement might be in jeopardy as the  FBI has recovered a message indicating that somebody in his house new it was going to happen.

I intentionally didn't say anything about political parties, only good and evil.  

[Ivanhoe]

Another Venezuelan drug boat popped by the Navy.

I'm wondering if the payload was a thermobaric. 

 

[rmgill]

Full stop. 
 

Calm discourse between consenting adults (ie not a police stop or court hearing) is not Fucking Around. 
 

Anyone who uses FAFO for what Charlie Kirk was doing (talking) and had done to him (murdered without any legal cause) has no moral ground whatsoever. 

[R011]

13 hours ago, X-Files said:

 

So was Kirk's murder justified?

Is the digital gleeful masturbation by Progressive NPCs over his death appropriate?

Are people allowed to have disagreements on some points and still have an opinion?

 

If you actually bothered to read ore of that post besides that one sentence, you'd realize those questions were answered - No, no, and yes in that order.

[X-Files]

3 hours ago, R011 said:

If you actually bothered to read ore of that post besides that one sentence, you'd realize those questions were answered - No, no, and yes in that order.

 

When will you be volunteering for Ukraine's Eastern Front?

[sunday]

19 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Bit of a pity you didnt take that advice before voting for Trump I guess.

Incidentally, there is a very fine podcast you would all do well to listen to. By Gabriel Gatehouse, its called 'The coming Storm' and looked back on the furore after January 6th and the storming of  the Capitol building, and the Qanon mayhem (including Clinton Murder Incorporated and Pizzagate), does a deep dive back to the John Birch Society, setting up the American banking system in the 20's,  before finishing up with Epstein. Its very good. None of you have an real excuse for not listening to it, particularly as he acuses Bill Clinton of rape and gives all the right wingers a good hearing. He doesnt necessarily accept what he is telling them, but he gives them all a good airing anyway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001324r

The point remains, everyone is pointing to the excesses of the left and their radical language. Fair enough, it has happened.  Its clearly skipped all your attention that Trump has been using weaponized language for well over the last 10 years, and nobody here has called him out on it. Indeed, many have emulated him, describing everyone in the left as 'evil' and prescribing the most radical treatments for their folly.

None of this mean Kirk deserved to die. Think of him as collateral damage from all the high yield language. 

 

After reading the full post, I stand corrected.