Because Trump 2.0

[Ivanhoe]

That can't be right. 

Plus, law enforcement is racist, so there's that. 

 

[Tim the Tank Nut]

so they take a month away to see if crime rates stay down.  When they creep back up, and they will, it's time for another 30 day time out.

[X-Files]

Oh Dougie

Boo Hoo Hoo.   

This is about educating Stuart while also calling him out on his decades-long track record of knee-jerk commenting on things he knows nothing about

[Come to think of it, it's also about educating you Fellow Travelers as well on the importance of semantics]

 

What corner of PORNHUB you get your censorship fantasies I'll never know, but you might want to consult your physician for a better prescription. 

 

 

Edited September 12 by X-Files

[rmgill]

7 hours ago, Ol Paint said:

Let's face it, Stuart posted a brief, rather innocuous, statement on hearing the news that Kirk had been shot, and a bunch of people jumped down his throat for no good reason. 

He opined on what Kirk was without any sort of real introspection. He does that all the time. It wasn't even posed as a question but an assertion. 
 

7 hours ago, Ol Paint said:

You may bridle at the left-wing engaging in censorship,

Murdering someone as a politial statement is the largest form of censorship possible. 

7 hours ago, Ol Paint said:

but that's exactly what is going on here, just with a different set of intersectional microagression collectivist games.

A 30.06 bullet through the chest that ricochets up into the neck isn't a micro aggression. 

 

[sunday]

Ah, the tired equivalence "Leftist violence is freedom of speech, but Righist freedom of speech is violence".

Hope it has been definitively proved false now, with the blood of Charlie Kirk.

Edited September 12 by sunday

[Tim the Tank Nut]

since we are in the "words mean things" territory let's keep rolling.

Mr Kirk says "Jesus loves you" and a triggered Secret Service agent attacks that is "hate speech".

Mr Kirk says "genital mutilation is wrong" and Ihan Ohmar says that is "hate speech"

Certain groups think that they can assign the term "hate speech" to any set of words and that makes it hate speech.  That is simply not the case.

[DougK]

5 hours ago, sunday said:

Charlie Kirk decided to make activism his life after West Point USMA rejected his application.

How on Earth they decided he was not officer material?

Particularly in view of their having graduated a declared communist a very few years ago.

 

[sunday]

1 hour ago, DougK said:

Particularly in view of their having graduated a declared communist a very few years ago.

 

I did not find any of that in his wikipedia bio, but I assume you are more informed in the matter. Thanks.

[rmgill]

1 minute ago, sunday said:

I did not find any of that in his wikipedia bio, but I assume you are more informed in the matter. Thanks.

No. West Point recently graduated a Declared Commie. Namely one Second Lt. Spenser Rapone.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/west-point-grad-condemned-for-pro-communist-photos-messages

[sunday]

4 minutes ago, rmgill said:

No. West Point recently graduated a Declared Commie. Namely one Second Lt. Spenser Rapone.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/west-point-grad-condemned-for-pro-communist-photos-messages

Thought of him, but that was some years later. Could have been different when Kirk applied.

Edited September 12 by sunday

[DKTanker]

35 minutes ago, sunday said:

Thought of him, but that was some years later. Could have been different when Kirk applied.

Kirk applied circa 2011 when the USMA would have been going in full Woke/DEI mode in accordance with the then current Commander In Chief.

[sunday]

So perhaps he was rejected to make room for some DEI person.

[rmgill]

DING DING!

Edited September 12 by rmgill

[Ivanhoe]

Heck, if his application listed church activities, he was probably cooked before they even got to the ethnicity box. 

 

[sunday]

39 minutes ago, rmgill said:

DING DING!

Linky not worky.

[rmgill]

10 minutes ago, sunday said:

Linky not worky.

huh...

 

[sunday]

Linky worky!

[Mr King]

This is what passes for a West Point cadet now, and if you don't recognize the salute they are giving its the radical black supremacist power salute 

[Murph]

Also the Marxist salute.   See Spanish civil war photos.

[Ol Paint]

12 hours ago, Tim the Tank Nut said:

Ol Paint, you make a fair point.  I think I understand the direction you are coming from but I am not sure you caught part of my meaning.  Let me try again.  Words mean things.  I interpret this to mean there are facts behind the words.  If I say I am a  right wing extremist then that likely means that I harbor views that most people would find extreme and those views are to the right of the political spectrum.  An example would be that I think a huge percentage of Democrats are a genuine threat to a healthy society.  That is both a true statement and an extreme right wing statement.

On the other hand if I were to say that I am a woman that is demonstrably untrue and genetically would never be true or possible.  It is simply a lie (and taken far enough a delusion of reality).  Your substitution example hinges on me not being able to accept reality.  That isn't the same as me refusing to have someone else set the terms of the debate.  I think that in the interest of trying to be understanding and show empathy that society no longer is willing to "call a spade a spade".  Note that phrase is an old one already so this is not a new problem but it is a problem soaked in the accelerant of modern communications technology.

In short, your comparison is clever and bears some thought but there's no getting around the fact that it proves my point about the definitions/meanings of words.  My notion that words have meanings is the part that I am considering unassailable.

Shifting gears a bit:

the WSJ has a piece out about the White House team tightening security and being concerned for their political safety.  The piece appears to have been written without ironic intent.  Seeing the disconnect between the author's apparent surprise at the White House reaction and the feelings of those in the White House is an example of which side of the bubble somebody is on.

The White House is concerned for their safety.  Gee, ya think?!

I agree with you, Tim, that words have meanings.  Where we differ is in the finer detail, since I think letting the word "activist" become untouchable surrenders it to the growing vocabulary that has been subverted by those that are trying to modify language to control free expression. 

I chose the pronoun substitution example because it is emblematic of the "my truth" BS the extremist left has been using to stifle their opponents.

To paraphrase the Monty Python "Life of Brian" skit:  "It's symbolic of [the] struggle against reality..."

Doug

[17thfabn]

15 hours ago, sunday said:

Charlie Kirk decided to make activism his life after West Point USMA rejected his application.

How on Earth they decided he was not officer material?

The U.S. service academies are very difficult to get into. On top of a having good academic background politics can also come into play. 

[Tim Sielbeck]

15 minutes ago, 17thfabn said:

The U.S. service academies are very difficult to get into. On top of a having good academic background politics can also come into play. 

It used to require a recommendation from one of your state's senators/representatives IIRC.

[DougK]

11 minutes ago, Tim Sielbeck said:

It used to require a recommendation from one of your state's senators/representatives IIRC.

Not entirely true. At various points, large numbers of cadets were recruited from the ranks as long as certain criteria were met (at the time, be <21 Y.O. and never have been married). It's my understanding that a large part of the corps of cadets were harvested from the ranks.
The usual path involved 9 mos of prep school at Ft Belvoir, then into the USMA if your performed well. A stipend equal to E5 rank was paid.
I had a horrendous experience at the Exam/Entrance station with recruiters who managed to kill my enthusiasm for military service in a single day. Then I got to Ft Jackson where I tested well so this happened. In the nicest possible terms I told my "Procurement Officer" to pound sand. A few months later as an in-country transfer from the 101st to 2/11th ACR in Vietnam it was expedient for me to carry my 201 file from one unit to the next. Ordinarily, you would never be in possession of your whole file because of a risk of tampering. And for good reason...I took this and a couple of other troublesome documents out of my file so that I wouldn't be pestered any further.

[Tim Sielbeck]

I know.  They offered to send me to West point when I got to Germany.  I declined.  But for students in High School I think it was a requirement.

[DKTanker]

6 hours ago, Tim Sielbeck said:

It used to require a recommendation from one of your state's senators/representatives IIRC.

Perhaps from Illinois Senator, Mark Kirk (no relation), Charlie Kirk worked on his campaign.  I understand Charlie Kirk did have a congressional recommendation, presumably from Senator Kirk.