Because Trump 2.0

[Stargrunt6]

1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said:

If I understand things correctly, a lot (maybe half) of the folks in asylums were there for depression type mental illnesses.

OTOH, folks that we now abstain from prosecuting due to mental illness were simply tried, convicted, and thrown in the slammer. America used to slap 10-20 year sentences on violent criminals regardless of mental health. 

 

 

[rmgill]

6 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Only you could take exception...
 

At this point, no, I don't care. Your arguments are as Callum says below.. 
 

 

Edited September 11 by rmgill

[rmgill]

1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said:

If I understand things correctly, a lot (maybe half) of the folks in asylums were there for depression type mental illnesses.

OTOH, folks that we now abstain from prosecuting due to mental illness were simply tried, convicted, and thrown in the slammer. America used to slap 10-20 year sentences on violent criminals regardless of mental health. 

I've pointed to this before, I'll point to it again. 

Aydin Paladin, a Grad student (she might have her doctorate now) in those soft sciency science stuff did this deep dive on the mental health institutes of old and why they were large grand buildings. AND how they were slowly dismantled in the US starting under Kennedy. 
 

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

2 hours ago, X-Files said:

You really are dim.  Of course he's going to be defined as a "right wing activist" by Progressive talking heads. 🙄

I'd suggest expanding your horizons, but after decades it's clear to everyone you're just an NPC.

There's a big difference between you and him, you self-absorbed shut-in.

Charlie was smart, articulate and well-read.

You're a muppet.

 

Alright, lets talk about me and why I posted up. 

I was watching on the news the first reports coming in of this poor bastard being shot. He wasnt deceased then. So why did I post up about It? I guess its because nobody else had, and I rather thought folks like yourself might like to know. You know what, fuck me for thinking I was actually doing the community a service by doing so. I did precisely the same on 911, and Nancy Pelosis husband being beat up. I dont remember you or anyone else getting butthurt about my doing that, or indeed challenging my intellectial level for doing so.

Secondly , I challenge you to find a post anywhere on line that doesnt describe him as a right wing activist. I called him that because, and excuse me for not instantly categorising him as = a major political figurehead, I used it to delineate him from Charlie Kirk  the car mechanic. I didnt know him,so I grasped the earliest description I can find, and I stand by it. Im not going to apologise for it for so he was described by all the media of the moment. He still is. 

Thirdly, expressing regret for a human being being shot clearly carries no weight on tanknet, because clearly it cannot possibly be than anyone other than a God fearing card carrying Republican can find political murder disgusting.   That was also why I posted up. Its called empathy for a fellow human being. You do remember how to do that I guess in your less self absorbed non, ranty moments.

Forthly, you are in no position to comment on my intellectual level, not having raved like a self obsessed tart on absolutely no basis whatsoever.

 I didnt call for his death, and unlike many of you here, I havent been indulging in the rhetoric of political violence. I even expressed regret when Trump got shot. Funny how you didnt jump down by throat when that happened isnt it?

 

Oh, and dont bother yourself to reply. Its not like it would be worth reading, and you might embarrass yourself further.

 

2 hours ago, Rick said:

👍

Whats the matter Rick, frightened to say what you think? I guess its far easier to hide behind someone more butch than do it yourself. What the hell, it works for Lindsay Graham.

 

[Stargrunt6]

46 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Alright, lets talk about me and why I posted up. 

I was watching on the news the first reports coming in of this poor bastard being shot. He wasnt deceased then. So why did I post up about It? I guess its because nobody else had, and I rather thought folks like yourself might like to know. You know what, fuck me for thinking I was actually doing the community a service by doing so. I did precisely the same on 911, and Nancy Pelosis husband being beat up. I dont remember you or anyone else getting butthurt about my doing that, or indeed challenging my intellectial level for doing so.

Secondly , I challenge you to find a post anywhere on line that doesnt describe him as a right wing activist. I called him that because, and excuse me for not instantly categorising him as = a major political figurehead, I used it to delineate him from Charlie Kirk  the car mechanic. I didnt know him,so I grasped the earliest description I can find, and I stand by it. Im not going to apologise for it for so he was described by all the media of the moment. He still is. 

Thirdly, expressing regret for a human being being shot clearly carries no weight on tanknet, because clearly it cannot possibly be than anyone other than a God fearing card carrying Republican can find political murder disgusting.   That was also why I posted up. Its called empathy for a fellow human being. You do remember how to do that I guess in your less self absorbed non, ranty moments.

Forthly, you are in no position to comment on my intellectual level, not having raved like a self obsessed tart on absolutely no basis whatsoever.

 I didnt call for his death, and unlike many of you here, I havent been indulging in the rhetoric of political 

 

Whats the matter Rick, frightened to say what you think? I guess its far easier to hide behind someone more butch than do it yourself. What the hell, it works for Lindsay Graham.

 

You're one to talk.

Everything about you screams "pussy behind a keyboard." I can tell in person you're a complete coward "nice guy" that is too scared to publicly be the awful person he really is in private.

[sunday]

7 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Only for the terminally reactionary, like your good self.

Thanks for the compliment, sir!

[Ivanhoe]

Give Stuart credit, its been 22.5 hours and he hasn't blamed the Tories for the shooting yet. 

 

[sunday]

Yes, that shows he is in the mend.

[JWB]

The mentally ill got pushed out of the institutions because the shrinks promised the problem would be solved by just forcing all of them to take thorazine. That failed because the courts ruled the mentally ill could not be forced to be medicated. And here we are...........

[Stargrunt6]

15 minutes ago, JWB said:

The mentally ill got pushed out of the institutions because the shrinks promised the problem would be solved by just forcing all of them to take thorazine. That failed because the courts ruled the mentally ill could not be forced to be medicated. And here we are...........

P R E A C H

[Ivanhoe]

Better living through chemistry.

TIL about the "Thorazine Shuffle." 

[R011]

5 hours ago, X-Files said:

You really are dim.  Of course he's going to be defined as a "right wing activist" by Progressive talking heads. 🙄

I'd suggest expanding your horizons, but after decades it's clear to everyone you're just an NPC.

There's a big difference between you and him, you self-absorbed shut-in.

Charlie was smart, articulate and well-read.

You're a muppet.

 

What's wrong with "right wing activist"?  Mr Kirk was certainly neither left wing nor centrist.  "Right wing" isn't pejorative unless coupled with some adjective like "extreme" or "radical"

[seahawk]

He was not right wing, he just was no looney lefty. 

[Murph]

Right wing has become as smear by the communist left for anyone not a raving marxist.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Well the political activist of no political persuasion was seemingly slain by a guy wearing a disabled veterans T shirt.

 

[rmgill]

43 minutes ago, seahawk said:

He was not right wing, he just was no looney lefty. 

He was a moderate conservative interested in true dialogue and civil discourse. 

He espoused responsibility and introspection on real data and events not demagoguery. 

Note how Shoe on Head described him. She's a bernie bro, socialist meme-ster. 

[rmgill]

15 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Well the political activist of no political persuasion was seemingly slain by a guy wearing a disabled veterans T shirt.

 

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+camouflage

[bfng3569]

1 hour ago, JWB said:

The mentally ill got pushed out of the institutions because the shrinks promised the problem would be solved by just forcing all of them to take thorazine. That failed because the courts ruled the mentally ill could not be forced to be medicated. And here we are...........

lets not forget that currently the left embraces and encourages mental illness in the form or transgenderism and body dysphoria to the point that they prefer mutilating children regardless of parental consent.

[X-Files]

1 hour ago, R011 said:

What's wrong with "right wing activist"?  Mr Kirk was certainly neither left wing nor centrist.  "Right wing" isn't pejorative unless coupled with some adjective like "extreme" or "radical"

It's use in this case is pejorative and you know it.

[X-Files]

4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Alright, lets talk about me and why I posted up. 

Blah blah blah self-justification blah blah.

Oh, and dont bother yourself to reply. Its not like it would be worth reading, and you might embarrass yourself further.

Decades of being one of your Progressive Masters' useful idiots, excreting the daily Current Narrative in hopes of some sort of notoriety for your pointless life, like some leg-humping Chihuahua desperate for a treat.

Muppet.

Edited September 11 by X-Files

[rmgill]

I hope they can get good forensics off the rifle and other materials. Prints, DNA, fibers, etc. 

 

[Ivanhoe]

13 minutes ago, rmgill said:

I hope they can get good forensics off the rifle and other materials. Prints, DNA, fibers, etc. 

 

They probably will, the FBI has stated they have a shoeprint and similar data. But if they do get prints off the rifle it means either he accepted getting caught, or had plans to absolutely not get caught. The towel the purported murder weapon was wrapped in surely would have been used to wipe the rifle down*. If that stairwell pic is the guy, they might have better luck pulling a print/DNA off the handrail. But there's always hair, skin flakes etc. Once identified, conviction is not going to be an issue. 

The problem IMO is catching a guy who has an 18 hour head start, and possibly numerous supporters helping him. I'm predicting he's OCONUS already. Mexicali, BC is 700 miles from Orem. so a 10 hour drive puts him across the border before midnight yesterday. 

The provenance of the rifle may prove interesting. Even if bought with cash at a gun show or liquor store parking lot, the seller probably remembers some useful details. 

* There's always the chance that he or one of his accomplices accidentally left a print inside the receiver or trigger guard. 

[jmsaari]

8 hours ago, X-Files said:

You really are dim.  Of course he's going to be defined as a "right wing activist" by Progressive talking heads. 🙄

What exactly is the problem with that definition? Was he not an activist? Or was he left and not right?

Or do you just assume that if anyone without MAGA hat says right-wing they mean it as a slur and synonym for nazi?

[seahawk]

Right-wing is a term used by the left to stigmatise conservative voices. 

[X-Files]

25 minutes ago, jmsaari said:

What exactly is the problem with that definition? Was he not an activist? Or was he left and not right?

Or do you just assume that if anyone without MAGA hat says right-wing they mean it as a slur and synonym for nazi?

Dear sweet Apt Pupil,

Clearly this is a topic beyond your grasp but yes, it is a slur excreted by your socialist media.

Ask yourself, why do YOU have a such a dog-whistle problem with him being defined as a Conservative?

Oh right - the Guardian told you otherwise, amIright? You are conditioned.

Charlie Kirk wanted to engage you people in dialogue and y'all are totally good with his murder.