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CDU, AFD, come on, its an easy mistake to make, right? :D

I hear that the result is actually less than the AFD were projected to make, which suggest Musk doing his 'Big Brother' act, helped convince Germans to vote alternatively. Maybe he should endorse Farage next?  :)

 

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https://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-friedrich-merz-offers-hope-for-ukraine-amid-the-trump-nightmare/

Merz has floated the idea of a new European defense alliance to replace NATO, including nuclear cooperation with France and the U.K. He is hawkish on Russia, but has also apparently resolved to take on Trump with the same determination. 

“Merz is signaling that the foundation of Germany’s post-World War II orientation will change under his government,” said Mujtaba Rahman, managing director for Europe at EurasiaGroup. “And Merz seems to have understood the threat that Trump presents.”

That is good news for Ukraine, which has been battered and bullied by the new White House in the past two weeks. What’s even better news is that the likely coalition that Merz will assemble stands a good chance of agreeing to a much stronger line on supporting Ukraine (and bolstering European security) than Germany has managed in recent years. 

 

Germans with nuclear weapons. You see what you done Donald? :D

 

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12 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Germans with nuclear weapons. You see what you done Donald? :D

 

Dolchstoss Don :ninja:

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glenn239 Hierophant Lord

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5 hours ago, Ssnake said:

And then you guys will tell us that we attacked Russia and need to stop it, I guess?

You made the claim that "500 million" members of the EU no longer believe that the US will honor Article 5.  I see no basis for the conclusion that the US will not come to Europe's defense against attacks inside European territory.

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5 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Frankly, Rick, you need to take off your US glasses on this one.

I dunno. Are you SURE you understood Vance's meaning? Perhaps your grasp of English is missing some subtleties? 

 

5 hours ago, Ssnake said:

It's irrelevant whether you, I, or anyone in the world thinks that Vance had a point about his freedom of speech speech.

Well, what HE meant matters. Unless you're going to adhere to the artsy fartsy interpretation of art and language is left to the beholder and never it's originator.
 

5 hours ago, Ssnake said:

What was said (and left unsaid) is entirely subordinate to how it was received by your nominal allies,

Our Nominal allies expect us to defend them without living up to the terms of the alliance. That's clear. European statements AND action on the subject has made that clear. 

Again. How many tank divisions can Germany field. Right now? 

What other metric is necessary to gauge intent upon? 

rmgill Hierophant Lord

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3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

https://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-friedrich-merz-offers-hope-for-ukraine-amid-the-trump-nightmare/

Merz has floated the idea of a new European defense alliance to replace NATO, including nuclear cooperation with France and the U.K. He is hawkish on Russia, but has also apparently resolved to take on Trump with the same determination. 

Not a new thing. At least a proposed idea since 2017. 

https://isnblog.ethz.ch/defense/permanent-structured-cooperation-an-institutional-pathway-for-european-defence

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4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

And in doing so, completely destroyed European deterrence. Bravo. He kicked over the accomplisment of 7 decades in a month and a half. let nobody say he doesnt work hard.

You guys are really well equipped for expounding on the stuff you pick up on Fox. Are you as good at listening to people whom are liable to get shot at in the near future? No. So the comprehension problem is not ours, its rather yours.

HOW?  I cannot follow you here Stuart.  All he wants is Europe to actually pay a fair share of its own defense.  Me, personally, I would leave old Europe to its own ends, and just defend Finland, the Baltics, and Poland.  

Stuart Galbraith Hierophant Lord

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1 minute ago, Murph said:

HOW?  I cannot follow you here Stuart.  All he wants is Europe to actually pay a fair share of its own defense.  Me, personally, I would leave old Europe to its own ends, and just defend Finland, the Baltics, and Poland.  

Most of Europe is already exceeding the targets set by NATO. And what is Trump's response? To propose to raise the NATO target to an unaffordable 5 percent, something the US is not spending, nor is there any plan to do so.

Clearly you want out of NATO, and you aren't interested in European security anymore. We get that message loud and clear from JD Vance. Very well, then we will do our own thing, and you won't like the results very much.

European security is indivisible. You dont get to pick and choose what bit you fight for. We come as a package deal, all or none.

And yes, that clearly includes Ukraine too. We looked at how Trump tried to screw Ukraine with his financial 'deal'. We got the message, that's the rest of us too when a sweet deal presents itself. If Trump didn't realise that was what he was saying, then perhaps he should have watched his mouth. It's no different from how he treated Canada and Denmark.

You guys really have zero idea what you have done, do you? You had it so sweet, and somehow fucked it all up In under  2 months. Future historians will look at Trump in awe.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Well, what HE meant matters

No, it does not. In all things communications, perception is reality. Words can't be unsaid, and you have no exclusive right to interpretation. That's the whole point I've been making since Trump in his first term cast doubt about his commitment to uphold NATO deterrence. But you won't listen because Trump says what you want to hear, not what you need to hear 

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23 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Most of Europe is already exceeding the targets set by NATO.

Can you give a current source cite that's not from Mini Truth (BBC or Der Spegal)? Maybe a NATO report? 

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5 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Can you give a current source cite that's not from Mini Truth (BBC or Der Spegal)? Maybe a NATO report? 

 

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This week, NATO allies will gather in Washington DC, to mark the seventy-fifth anniversary of the Alliance. Many of those allies have historically failed to meet the NATO target, set in 2014, of allocating 2 percent of their gross domestic product (GDP) to defense, even as the United States in particular has pushed for more defense investment for the sake of burden sharing across the Alliance. However, this year, a record number of countries have stepped up. Out of the thirty-two NATO allies, twenty-three now meet the 2 percent target, up from just six countries in 2021. 

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/econographics/whos-at-2-percent-look-how-nato-allies-have-increased-their-defense-spending-since-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/

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19 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

No, it does not. In all things communications, perception is reality. Words can't be unsaid, and you have no exclusive right to interpretation. That's the whole point I've been making since Trump in his first term cast doubt about his commitment to uphold NATO deterrence. But you won't listen because Trump says what you want to hear, not what you need to hear 

So when I perceive from what you just wrote that you're a Jew hating Nazi, that is reality?

Stuart Galbraith Hierophant Lord

Stuart Galbraith

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52 minutes ago, Murph said:

Zelenskyy has moved the goals from a "loan" to a "gift/grant", so no, I do not want to fund anyone else in the world at all. 

The only people that have moved the goalposts are you fellas.

Stuart Galbraith Hierophant Lord

Stuart Galbraith

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39 minutes ago, rmgill said:

A dated piece from the CNBC by way of the New York Times? 

Okay. 

You are denying he said it?

What about this, do you remember this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68266447

Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies who do not pay their bills

Or this, where he falsely accused Ukraine of attacking Russia?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/20/us/politics/trump-nato.html

Maybe you also missed the comments by the new German Chancellor, who clearly has captured everything Trump has been saying.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/government/nato-given-4-month-warning-by-germany-amid-donald-trump-chaos/ar-AA1zFqkb?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Germany's likely new Chancellor, Friedrich Merz, issued a stark warning that NATO could soon cease to exist in its current form because of Donald Trump.

The Christian Democratic Union (CDU) leader said Mr Trump's administration is "largely indifferent to the fate of Europe", causing concerns that NATO might not exist in its current form by the next summit in June.

He said: "My absolute priority will be to strengthen Europe as quickly as possible so that, step by step, we can really achieve independence from the USA. I never thought I would have to say something like this on a television program.

"But after Donald Trump's statements last week at the latest, it is clear that the Americans, at least this part of the Americans, this administration, are largely indifferent to the fate of Europe.

"I am very curious to see how we are heading towards the NATO summit at the end of June ... whether we will still be talking about NATO in its current form or whether we will have to establish an independent European defence capability much more quickly."

 

Basically, between the loose mouth of JD Vance and Donald Trump, NATO nations are not spending more on defence because they are scared of Trump. They are spending more on defence now they are aware that NATO is coming ot an end, and we dont want to be caught in the deluge.

And if you Americans are not aware of the chaos you have caused, or the near certainty of war between Europe and Russia that is now coming down the pipes, perhaps you want to seriously consider spending so much time on Alt Right websites, and invest some time in learning how the real world is working. Decisively to your disadvantage right now.

 

Stuart Galbraith Hierophant Lord

Stuart Galbraith

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45 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Can you give a current source cite that's not from Mini Truth (BBC or Der Spegal)? Maybe a NATO report? 

Jesus Christ, Urbanoid found it in 10 minutes!  What the hell are you using, Darpanet or the Darkweb?

I dont know what internet provider you are using, but it doesnt seem to have any information in it.

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