Because Trump 2.0

[DKTanker]

105 minutes, is there a crib notes version?

[Josh]

The congressional Medal of Honor is not as good as a civilian award by Trump, because you can still be attractive afterwards. Don’t take my word for it, roll the tape:

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

Edited August 21 by Josh

[Stefan Fredriksson]

29 minutes ago, Josh said:

The congressional Medal of Honor is not as good as a civilian award by Trump, because you can still be attractive afterwards. Don’t take my word for it, roll the tape:

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

First heard of it out of context, then saw his first statement, and afterwards Trump's "clarification". Of course we will gets lots of "He didn't mean what he said", which he obviously clarified he did. Of the servicemen in here, how did that sit with you?

[Ssnake]

Pvte Bonespur's personal opinion of the rank value of certain medals would be absolutely irrelevant to me. He's somewhat competent in other areas. I'm not particularly convinced that Cackling Kamie would perform so much better in a game of Medal Jeopardy.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Its interesting to listen to Anthony Scaramucci apraisal of Trump on his podcast with Katy Kay. He says that in many ways he is incredibly politically astute, and tripped Scaramucci up when he said his broadcast to the rustbelt was untypically Republican. Trump called him one of the Republican elites, so of course it would sound that way to him.

He still doesnt think he should get a second term though. That said, he thinks that unless Trump badly screws up, its still his to lose.

https://therestispolitics.supportingcast.fm/listen/the-rest-is-politics/302-it-s-trump-s-race-to-lose

[Rick]

3 hours ago, Stefan Fredriksson said:

First heard of it out of context, then saw his first statement, and afterwards Trump's "clarification". Of course we will gets lots of "He didn't mean what he said", which he obviously clarified he did. Of the servicemen in here, how did that sit with you?

Better Trump than Harris by a large margin.

[Mr King]

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Crowd cracks up after Trump shuts up race-baiting reporter who tried linking him to white supremacy. Reporter: "Kamala's campaign attacked you for being in this town because it's associated with white supremacy" Trump: "Who was here in 2021?" Reporter: "Biden" Trump: "Thank you everyone." The comment came after the Harris campaign slammed Trump for visiting Howell, Michigan. Joe Biden visited Howell, Michigan in October of 2021.

 

[17thfabn]

12 hours ago, Stefan Fredriksson said:

First heard of it out of context, then saw his first statement, and afterwards Trump's "clarification". Of course we will gets lots of "He didn't mean what he said", which he obviously clarified he did. Of the servicemen in here, how did that sit with you?

I'm not a current service member. Been out for over 30 years.  I served 5 years active and 6 active reserve. 

I think Trump says a lot of stupid stuff.  This is another example. 

Harris says a lot of stupid stuff also.

Both have many failings. Who has better policies is what matters. Clearly Trump has better policies. Even Harris agrees on some as she starts to adopt some of Trump's policies as her own. Such as shutting the border down and no income tax on tips.

[17thfabn]

12 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Pvte Bonespur's personal opinion of the rank value of certain medals would be absolutely irrelevant to me. He's somewhat competent in other areas. I'm not particularly convinced that Cackling Kamie would perform so much better in a game of Medal Jeopardy.

Please don't call him Private Bonespure. He never served.

It comes off to me as offensive to privates. Hundreds of thousands of privates served honorable and gave their lives in service to the country. 

[Skywalkre]

1 hour ago, 17thfabn said:

I'm not a current service member. Been out for over 30 years.  I served 5 years active and 6 active reserve. 

I think Trump says a lot of stupid stuff.  This is another example. 

Harris says a lot of stupid stuff also.

Both have many failings. Who has better policies is what matters. Clearly Trump has better policies. Even Harris agrees on some as she starts to adopt some of Trump's policies as her own. Such as shutting the border down and no income tax on tips.

Saying one has better policies than the other is like saying a person using a bucket is a better option than someone using a glass to get water out of a sinking boat... when that boat is the Titanic.

[DKTanker]

18 hours ago, Stefan Fredriksson said:

First heard of it out of context, then saw his first statement, and afterwards Trump's "clarification". Of course we will gets lots of "He didn't mean what he said", which he obviously clarified he did. Of the servicemen in here, how did that sit with you?

I think he meant exactly what he said.  I took it to mean since, in his view, the two awards have equal merit, if one had to choose between living and being awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, or dying, or at best being maimed, to be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, choosing life is always better. 

Having said that, I don't care what anybody says, the United States has no award that is equal to or surpasses the Congressional Medal of Honor.  The Presidential Medal of Freedom is a political award, if you hold the correct political views your chances of being awarded go up significantly.  The MoH, on the other hand, has been about being in harms way and performing actions above and beyond the call of duty.  And yes, that usually means the recipient was not unscathed and in the post Douglas MacArthur MoH participation award world, the recipient was usually awarded posthumously. 

So I understand what Trump meant in the one respect why vehemently objecting to the two awards having equal value.

[rmgill]

18 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Saying one has better policies than the other is like saying a person using a bucket is a better option than someone using a glass to get water out of a sinking boat... when that boat is the Titanic.

Saying someone who has NO stated policies is like saying the guys rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic are doing a better job than the people trying to come up with a better distribution of people in the lifeboats to get the maximum people off before she sinks. 

[Mr King]

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kinda weird a 20 year kid in Pennsylvania shooting guns at the same gun range used by DHS agents had an encrypted messaging account in Belgium, where NATO is headquartered.

    

 

[sunday]

6 minutes ago, Mr King said:

    

 

That is, of course, another conspiracy theory, and the comment should reflect that!

[bfng3569]

On 8/19/2024 at 12:17 PM, Josh said:

Get back to me when you make a reference to someone who could be the next president.

get back to us when someone who could be the next president and isn't named Trump has a press conference or speaking event that lasts longer than 3 minutes....

[rmgill]

18 hours ago, DKTanker said:

 

So I understand what Trump meant in the one respect why vehemently objecting to the two awards having equal value.

Seems like Trump has a better real relationship with the military than the DNC where it actually matters. 
 

case in point:

 

 

[Mr King]

41 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Seems like Trump has a better real relationship with the military than the DNC where it actually matters. 
 

case in point:

 

 

Well I have never seen any Navy seals driving down the road flying a Biden or Obama flag from their vehicle, but I am not in the military so maybe there are some out there.

 

Edited August 22 by Mr King

[Murph]

Manhunt under way for Democrat who threatened to kill Trump when he came to Arizona, the man has warrants for failure to register as a sex offender (seems more typical for Democrat voters these days), and warrants out of another state.  

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/madelineleesman/2024/08/22/manhunt-underway-for-man-who-made-threats-against-president-trump-n2643789

 

Police in Arizona are hunting for a convicted sex offender who allegedly threatened to kill former President Donald Trump. 

According to several reports, the man, Ronald Lee Syrvud, is believed to be on the loose in the border region where Trump is scheduled to make remarks on Thursday (via NYP😞

 

Trump will visit Sierra Vista, Arizona — which is in Cochise County — Thursday morning to “address the plague of migrant crime that so-called Border Czar, comrade Kamala Harris has unleashed on America,” he said on Truth Social Wednesday.

[...]

The border region is a “smuggler’s paradise,” where cartel members and associates scout from the mountaintops to smuggle humans and drugs, presenting a major security concern.

Syrvud, 66, has several outstanding warrants. This includes a DUI in Wisconsin, a hit-and-run in Arizona. 

According to the New York Post, he is also sought for failing to register as a sex offender in Arizona. 

[Skywalkre]

40 minutes ago, Mr King said:

Well I have never seen any Navy seals driving down the road flying a Biden or Obama flag from their vehicle, but I am not in the military so maybe there are some out there.

They likely exist.  Admiral McRaven was briefly considered as a potential running mate for Harris early in that process.

The polls at first glance seem to show that there are far more Rs than Ds in the military, but apparently if you look closer the number who identify as R matches what you see in the general pop.  The difference is apparently the military (and vets) are far more likely to ID as independent than the general population.

Then there's the whole issue of how vets can be fine supporting Trump given what happened up to and around 6Jan given the oaths they once swore, but that's for a different discussion...

[Mr King]

5 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

They likely exist.  Admiral McRaven was briefly considered as a potential running mate for Harris early in that process.

The polls at first glance seem to show that there are far more Rs than Ds in the military, but apparently if you look closer the number who identify as R matches what you see in the general pop.  The difference is apparently the military (and vets) are far more likely to ID as independent than the general population.

Then there's the whole issue of how vets can be fine supporting Trump given what happened up to and around 6Jan given the oaths they once swore, but that's for a different discussion...

I never stated I doubted there were Biden / Obama / Kamala, I just never seen them flying their flags from military vehicles.

 

I dont see these dudes in the nu military being big Trump fans

 

As for the "oaths" they swore and who they support well that's an interesting discussion

 

 

[Skywalkre]

2 minutes ago, Mr King said:

I never stated I doubted there were Biden / Obama / Kamala, I just never seen them flying their flags from military vehicles.

Right, but given you've likely seen a very small sample size I was pointing out how they likely exist.  As for showing their allegiance they shouldn't be flying flags like that from their military vehicles (there's no context on that pic so who knows what's going on there).

7 minutes ago, Mr King said:

As for the "oaths" they swore and who they support well that's an interesting discussion

And your point is...?  An assassination attempt on Trump doesn't undo what he tried leading up to and on 6Jan nor the relevance of those oaths some of us once took.

[rmgill]

43 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

Then there's the whole issue of how vets can be fine supporting Trump given what happened up to and around 6Jan given the oaths they once swore, but that's for a different discussion...

How many times have you reskinned that drum? 

 

[Mr King]

7 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

Right, but given you've likely seen a very small sample size I was pointing out how they likely exist.  As for showing their allegiance they shouldn't be flying flags like that from their military vehicles (there's no context on that pic so who knows what's going on there).

 

Again I never argued democrat supporters in the military don't exist. In fact I just stated why I know they exist.

As for the flag context, its but one web search away

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/03/01/seals-punished-flying-trump-flag-highway.html

 

 

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And your point is...?  An assassination attempt on Trump doesn't undo what he tried leading up to and on 6Jan nor the relevance of those oaths some of us once took.

You have a very vivid imagination. Did Trump run over your dog too? As for Trump being shot, it's who shot him and who conspired to shoot him, and who is now stonewalling congressional investigations into the incident and conveniently "investigating" themselves internally. But this is all a waste of bandwidth as for you nothing exists outside of narratives the captured media feeds you. Oswald shot Kennedy and Crooks tried to kill Trump, and that's all you need to know about both events.

[rmgill]

20 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

And your point is...?  An assassination attempt on Trump doesn't undo what he tried leading up to and on 6Jan nor the relevance of those oaths some of us once took.

Now, explain all the oddities with the USSS and FBI handling up to and after. Now speak to us on oaths. Be sure you cross reference it in the Indefensible Police thread too. 

[sunday]

1 minute ago, Mr King said:

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You have a very vivid imagination. Did Trump run over your dog too? As for Trump being shot, it's who shot him and who conspired to shoot him, and who is now stonewalling congressional investigations into the incident and conveniently "investigating" themselves internally. But this is all a waste of bandwidth as for you nothing exists outside of narratives the captured media feeds you. Oswald shot Kennedy and Crooks tried to kill Trump, and that's all you need to know about both events.

You forgot the fact that the 2020 election was the cleanest ever in all the Universe.