NickM Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 32 minutes ago, bfng3569 said: You mean questioning this... Ignore that trifle! Just focus on how she was the most "lie-beral" senator from Cali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 56 minutes ago, bfng3569 said: You mean questioning this... I’ve no doubt Harris is trying to have her cake and eat it to on the race issue. Never the less that was the wrong answer and wrong tone for that venue. Trump would have literally been much better off staying home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfng3569 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 8 minutes ago, Josh said: I’ve no doubt Harris is trying to have her cake and eat it to on the race issue. Never the less that was the wrong answer and wrong tone for that venue. Trump would have literally been much better off staying home. and that is nothing more than your opinion, and a lot of people don't share it. reporter asked the question and he answered it, you may not like it, but that really doesn't matter. you don't see Harris there being asked why she flip flops so much on whether she's black or Indian or South Asian or what ever the hell she's claiming to be or what accent she's using today. and people are noticing, and that's hurting far more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, bfng3569 said: reporter asked the question and he answered it, you may not like it, but that really doesn't matter. Wasn't the point of trying to win elections that it is a popularity contest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 My new wallpaper on all my computers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Interesting, they awarded Trump costs which is very interesting, and so I wonder what the libtard lefty judges will do now that they have been slapped down hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, bfng3569 said: and that is nothing more than your opinion, and a lot of people don't share it. a lot of white people might not share it, sure. I think the audience reaction made it super clear how well that interview will play in the black community. 2 hours ago, bfng3569 said: reporter asked the question and he answered it, you may not like it, but that really doesn't matter. I do not particularly care, outside the fact I enjoy watching Trump dig himself a hole. I think there absolutely is some truth to the idea Harris selectively pitches herself as either black or Indian depending on the venue or time frame. But that does not change the fact that the black community very likely is not going to have the definition of black read out to them by a senile white guy with a track record of chasing minorities out of his fathers buildings. Go back one page or so and you will see a much more tactful response that makes the same point without Trump putting his foot in his mouth: ask Joe why she’s his VP when she had almost no support in the primary. That would have been a much more effective response to the legitimate issue. 2 hours ago, bfng3569 said: you don't see Harris there being asked why she flip flops so much on whether she's black or Indian or South Asian or what ever the hell she's claiming to be or what accent she's using today. and people are noticing, and that's hurting far more. I do not think anyone is noticing that much, at least not anyone who wasn’t already voting for Trump anyway. I think the criticism of Harris is legit, but the way Trump went about it was a catastrophe. If anything the black community is going to circle the wagons around her now as push back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalkre Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 49 minutes ago, Murph said: Interesting, they awarded Trump costs which is very interesting, and so I wonder what the libtard lefty judges will do now that they have been slapped down hard? I'm questioning if this is even real. There's no context to this... and the date is from over a month ago (this is the day SCOTUS issued their immunity ruling). Judge Chutkan was given control of her case today but it hasn't been thrown out, she just has to reexamine it in light of the SCOTUS ruling. My guess is this is another contrived or completely misinformed post (I'm only seeing copies of this pic posted on X with, again, no context or context that makes no sense) to give folks like you reason to celebrate a win that isn't real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Look, I know you are drinking to cool aid, but this is accurate. Sorry I had to burst your GET TRUMP bubble. Besides all this is is the official order of the court which comes after the decision. Nothing new here except the court costs being given to Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalkre Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 That $3k addendum to a case that's already decided will clearly be what helps Trump pull away to a landslide victory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) 2 hours ago, Skywalkre said: That $3k addendum to a case that's already decided will clearly be what helps Trump pull away to a landslide victory... You realize there are two costs sets there? The filing fee for the appeal and the lower court ruling that was vacated. The third AND fourth paragraphs are indicative of this. Also, not finding reports, when the search engines steer you to specific cases its hard to find. The actual court order off the court web site would be nice to see. Edited August 3 by rmgill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 10 hours ago, Ivanhoe said: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/08/02/secret_service_whistleblowers_acting_chief_cut_security_assets__151382.html Every week its looking more and more like a setup. In other news, from today's USSS presser. Rowe acknowledges that the July 13th event was the first time a counter-sniper team had been authorized for former president/candidate Trump. No follow up question, but it might have people wondering how coincidental and convenient it was that the first time a counter-sniper team was present at a Trump rally, there was an assassin that needed dispatching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT Ducky Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 OK, I’ll go full wacko-conspiracy here. The counter-sniper team was just to ensure that the assassin (assumed to be successful) was not available for interrogation after the assassination. This does not mean the counter-sniper team was informed of the planned event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/08/02/rowe-before-the-shooting-secret-service-knew-locals-were-working-an-issue-to-trumps-right/ Quote During a press briefing, Rowe told reporters that all Secret Service members present at the rally knew was that “locals were working in issue at the President’s three o’clock — which would have been off to his right which is where the shot came from.” He also said, “Our detail, our counter snipers, everyone that was there that day, were operating under the assumption, [and] under the last bit of information they received that there was an issue that the locals were working at the three o’clock. That’s the bit of information that we had, not anything about a weapon.” However, Rowe could not explain why — knowing there was an issue at Trump’s right — Secret Service were still not able to stop Crooks sooner. Rowe said a Secret Service counter-sniper fired at Crooks fifteen-and-a-half seconds after Crooks began firing. Bolding mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 What's with the disagreement about the first Trump vs Harris debate? Our state media say Trump changed the date and the host from ABC to Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 29 minutes ago, Markus Becker said: What's with the disagreement about the first Trump vs Harris debate? Our state media say Trump changed the date and the host from ABC to Fox. Apparently there is a judicial case between Trump and ABC, so ABC could not be considered as a neutral party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Jones Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 He was happy enough to be on ABC when he thought it was Biden he was going to debate. I do think he probably has a point that he agreed to debate Biden and that now that the candidate has changed that agreement is no longer applicable. Of course the Democrats have a different view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, Markus Becker said: What's with the disagreement about the first Trump vs Harris debate? Our state media say Trump changed the date and the host from ABC to Fox. Who “wins” the debate is somewhat dependent the debate format and questions, and ABC is seen as Dem supporting where Fox News is seen as GOP supporting. And with the race firmly in a toss up, the debate could now tip the scales. I think the biggest disagreement will be over whether there’s a live audience; Trump prefers the cheering and booing and such. Edited August 4 by Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) Trump dug up his conflict with Brian Kemp in is rally over the weekend. The man truly can not control himself. Harris puts Georgia in play and his first rally there immediately condemns the popular local governor, despite Kemp supporting Trump in the primary. An own goal for the sake of vengeance. Edited August 4 by Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, Harold Jones said: Of course the Democrats have a different view. Yes. They can swap candidates like changing hats and everyone will or should go along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Thanks for the information guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 3 hours ago, Harold Jones said: He was happy enough to be on ABC when he thought it was Biden he was going to debate. I do think he probably has a point that he agreed to debate Biden and that now that the candidate has changed that agreement is no longer applicable. Of course the Democrats have a different view. Trump may have a point but the fact is he needs the debate more than Harris. Harris is free to message herself anyway she wants and the majority of the press will allow her to do it without challenge. Had Trump not reneged, he would have had leverage to do the debate as originally scheduled if she would do a return engagement on his terms. Now Trump is left with shouting into the wind at his followers with no chance of challenging Harris and her new image before her followers and low information voters. I don't know what Team Trump's strategy is, but reneging on the ABC debate was a lost tactical opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 2 hours ago, rmgill said: Yes. They can swap candidates like changing hats and everyone will or should go along with it. I don't see why Trump is frustrated that Harris has declined the Fox debate. Didn't Trump decline a handful of debate opportunities last year? And why did Trump decline them? Because they couldn't help him, only hurt. Turns out that reasoning works for other candidates as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Jones Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, DKTanker said: Trump may have a point but the fact is he needs the debate more than Harris. Harris is free to message herself anyway she wants and the majority of the press will allow her to do it without challenge. Had Trump not reneged, he would have had leverage to do the debate as originally scheduled if she would do a return engagement on his terms. Now Trump is left with shouting into the wind at his followers with no chance of challenging Harris and her new image before her followers and low information voters. I don't know what Team Trump's strategy is, but reneging on the ABC debate was a lost tactical opportunity. I'm not sure there is a strategy. Trump said no when it looked to him like he would only help Harris by treating her like a viable candidate. Now as so often seems to happen to him, it's coming back to bite him in the ass. It's not a big bite, it's not gonna turn off the died in the wool Trump voters, but it's just another nudge in the wrong direction. It's still his race to lose I think but it's not going to be the walk in the park he anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Jones Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 4 hours ago, rmgill said: Yes. They can swap candidates like changing hats and everyone will or should go along with it. The people who count, the members of the Democratic party, seem down with the swap. Biden released his delegates to vote as they wished, they did so and Harris won. Again why do give any kind of a fuck about how a party you don't belong to is choosing their candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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