Because Trump 2.0

[Tim the Tank Nut]

it'll be interesting hoe fast all this disappears from the various search engines.  They will try to memory hole every bit of it.

[Ivanhoe]

[Ivanhoe]

 

[Ivanhoe]

Beaver County is adjacent to Butler County.

I still have not seen mention of why PSP had no SWAT on site.

 

[Roman Alymov]

On 7/15/2024 at 9:24 PM, Roman Alymov said:

By the way, looking on this big roof, probably made of metal: how hot was the day? This roofs tend to be heated by sun to extreme temperatures, probably making it extremely uncomfortable to crawl, take static position and fire accurate shot.....

Seems like i am not the only person who think person crawling on hot roof in short closing is strange

 

[Skywalkre]

On 7/28/2024 at 11:36 AM, Josh said:

The current POTUS is catholic and actually attends church. Is there a single photo of Trump inside one?

You're going to love this... a survey from last year where over half of Rs viewed Trump as a 'person of faith'.  He received the most nods out of all other primary R contenders, even beating out Pence (52% to 52%).  We really live in bizarro world.  🤣

[rmgill]

Who's judgement of who count's a person of faith do you go with? 
 

[Josh]

3 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

You're going to love this... a survey from last year where over half of Rs viewed Trump as a 'person of faith'.  He received the most nods out of all other primary R contenders, even beating out Pence (52% to 52%).  We really live in bizarro world.  🤣

Unimaginable. But then again if you only watched conservative media, how would you know otherwise?

[Skywalkre]

5 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Who's judgement of who count's a person of faith do you go with?

Ultimately one can't know... if all outward indications imply they might be a person of faith.  The thing with Trump, he has zero outward indications and a really long list of indications he's not. 

[17thfabn]

10 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Who's judgement of who count's a person of faith do you go with? 
 

No trying to be too judgmental, but neither Trump, Biden or Harris strike me as living at the foot of the cross.

[rmgill]

Well Biden gets to wrap himself in the faith while espousing rather diametrically opposed ideas like abortion. 

So, maybe give Trump a little grace. 


 

1 minute ago, 17thfabn said:

No trying to be too judgmental, but neither Trump, Biden or Harris strike me as living at the foot of the cross.

One thing to remember is that folks of faith don't have to be perfect to be people of faith. Folks in a church aren't there because they're perfect, they're there because, they're not. 

Edited July 29, 2024 by rmgill

[17thfabn]

4 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Well Biden gets to wrap himself in the faith while espousing rather diametrically opposed ideas like abortion. 

Biden practices the most common form of U.S. Catholicism, Cafeteria Catholicism.

And that is true across most Christian Denominations. Just less obvious with most Protestant Denominations that tend to be have a less well developed and structured Dogma than the Catholics.

BTW Dogma was an excellent documentary. 

[Skywalkre]

Yeah, Protestant churches can often be very vague on a lot of things.  Take divorce.  The churches I grew up in were adamant that divorce was... something that was really frowned upon.  With that being said, many of the people in these churches (in particular the leadership minus the actual pastors) were all divorced.  Even very young me noticed this incongruity and it's always bugged me since...

[rmgill]

13 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

Yeah, Protestant churches can often be very vague on a lot of things.  Take divorce.  The churches I grew up in were adamant that divorce was... something that was really frowned upon.  With that being said, many of the people in these churches (in particular the leadership minus the actual pastors) were all divorced.  Even very young me noticed this incongruity and it's always bugged me since...

Frowned upon. Oh NO! We wouldn't want a church to try to steer people on certain paths now would we? They probably also don't want their members drinking to excess, doing drugs of stripper's breasts and fathering 20 kids out of wedlock.



Not allowed, in the Catholic Church. Getting a divorce gets you kicked out of the church if I'm not mistaken. 

Edited July 29, 2024 by rmgill

[DKTanker]

As an exercise google "Assassination attempt."  Note the autocompletes

• Assassination attempt on Truman
• Ronald Reagan assassination attempt
• Bob Marley assassination attempt
• George Wallace assassination attempt
• Teddy Roosevelt assassination attempt
• Assassination attempt John Paul II
• Assassination attempt on Lenin
• Assassination attempts on Fidel Castro
• Assassination attempt on Gerald Ford
• Assassination attempt Saudi Arabia

Have we forgotten anybody?

[Rick]

52 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

Yeah, Protestant churches can often be very vague on a lot of things.  Take divorce.  The churches I grew up in were adamant that divorce was... something that was really frowned upon.  With that being said, many of the people in these churches (in particular the leadership minus the actual pastors) were all divorced.  Even very young me noticed this incongruity and it's always bugged me since...

Romans 3:23-24

[Ssnake]

42 minutes ago, rmgill said:

in the Catholic Church. Getting a divorce gets you kicked out of the church if I'm not mistaken. 

Well, you are.

Divorced, and then remarried - you can't get sacraments, but you'd still not be excommunicated.

[rmgill]

What are the sacraments? aside from going to the church, they won’t hear confession or do any of the other rites. Isn’t that kicked out? 

[Skywalkre]

39 minutes ago, Rick said:

Romans 3:23-24

That verse is not a blank check to live however you want and still claim to be a Christian.  When a church elder (or Presidential candidate) is on his third wife, with each one being younger and more attractive than the one before, that's not falling short... that's being a hypocrite.

[17thfabn]

7 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

When a church elder (or Presidential candidate) is on his third wife, with each one being younger and more attractive than the one before, that's not falling short... that's being a hypocrite.

I'm not impressed with number 3. She has a serious case of RBF........ Except when she is not with hubby. She tends to smile when he is not around. 

[rmgill]

16 minutes ago, 17thfabn said:

I'm not impressed with number 3. She has a serious case of RBF........ Except when she is not with hubby. She tends to smile when he is not around. 

She’s slavic. They frown a lot. 

[Ssnake]

6 hours ago, rmgill said:

What are the sacraments? aside from going to the church, they won’t hear confession or do any of the other rites. Isn’t that kicked out? 

I find your lack of faith in Wikipedia searches ... disturbing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrament#Summary_table

[rmgill]

So you can go in but they don’t give you wine, bread or let you use the food phone. 
 

if you are catholic and you can’t do any of the sacraments , what does it leave you with? 

[Ssnake]

As I'm not of Catholic denomination and don't have plans for divorce, let alone remarriage, I don't really care. If you want to start a theological debate, however, utmost precision in the use of words and the meta concepts behind them is required if you want to come to useful results beyond "I don't like it because it kinda reminds me of something". It's like Walter Sobchak using the most spurious connections to bring up Vietnam.

[Stuart Galbraith]

16 hours ago, rmgill said:

There isn’t any secularism in leftist politics. Its just paganism with a veneer of ‘Teh Science!’. 

Ah, but thats where you are wrong. Leftist politics can, at times, be considerably more non secular than that of the right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Tutu

Im annoyed, but my google fu had temporarily failed me. In the 1950's there was a Bishop, I cant remember if he was of Bath and Wells or maybe even Canterbury, but he was, in most major respects, a communist. In fact he went, so far as I can recall, to suggest that if Jesus was alive and well, he would be a Socialist (based on his overturning of the market in the temple I suppose).

The left, like the right, are far more complicated and with stranger bedfellows than either side ever concede.