Because Trump 2.0

[rmgill]

Josh, DNC Party leadership would have know Biden couldn’t handle the job. They still ran him. Then when it became clear to the electorate, they picked a non democratic method to replace him. Kamala hasn’t won a primary in ANY state in over 6 years. The last was running in CA for senate. She lost, badly in the CA presidential primary. 
 

She was given the job because she’s a woman and a person of color. Not due to merit. 
 

Trump won A contested primary as the dark horse candidate. Then won again as the incumbent and again this next go around. 
 

Who is democratic? Not the DNC. So stop wrapping the DNC in that mantle. 

[Josh]

5 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Josh, DNC Party leadership would have know Biden couldn’t handle the job. They still ran him. Then when it became clear to the electorate, they picked a non democratic method to replace him. Kamala hasn’t won a primary in ANY state in over 6 years. The last was running in CA for senate. She lost, badly in the CA presidential primary. 
 

She was given the job because she’s a woman and a person of color. Not due to merit. 
 

Trump won A contested primary as the dark horse candidate. Then won again as the incumbent and again this next go around. 
 

Who is democratic? Not the DNC. So stop wrapping the DNC in that mantle. 

You and I disagree regarding Biden’s capabilities and the DNCs ability to force him out of the campaign. Biden made the decision to drop out and his VP is the logical person to replace him; weak candidate that she is. I find it amusing that you think the DNC puppet masters would have picked her when it was obvious from hypothetical polls pre drop out she was not much more competitive than Biden.

Trump won a contested primary this year. However there was no contest whatsoever in 2020 when he was an incumbent, as is usually the case for both parties. Is there any part of that last sentence you would like to dispute?

Again you ignore my questions concerning Trumps undemocratic behavior and statements.

[rmgill]

Biden was clearly incompetent at the beginning of the year. Your refusal to see it is irrelevant. Trump can clearly make long speeches and not flag like Biden does when he’s sitting at his desk for 15 minutes. 
 

The DNC should have made this adjustment at the beginning of the year instead of lying to the public. And they should 25th amendment Biden now and not wait. 
 

Trump has no comparable issue. Period. 
 

Your false equivalence whataboutism doesn’t cut it. 
 

 

[Josh]

13 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Biden was clearly incompetent at the beginning of the year. Your refusal to see it is irrelevant. Trump can clearly make long speeches and not flag like Biden does when he’s sitting at his desk for 15 minutes. 
 

The DNC should have made this adjustment at the beginning of the year instead of lying to the public. And they should 25th amendment Biden now and not wait. 
 

Trump has no comparable issue. Period. 
 

Your false equivalence whataboutism doesn’t cut it. 
 

 

Fine, we disagree on the issue of competency.
 

So we are just going to ignore the issue of Trumps statements and previous attempt to defy democracy in this country? That’s not whataboutism, that is someone who has stated voting and the constitution can just go away, and who tried to have his VP make the votes of multiple states just go away.

Are we just going to throw that down the memory hole?

[DKTanker]

2 hours ago, Josh said:

You and I disagree regarding Biden’s capabilities and the DNCs ability to force him out of the campaign. Biden made the decision to drop out and his VP is the logical person to replace him; weak candidate that she is. I find it amusing that you think the DNC puppet masters would have picked her when it was obvious from hypothetical polls pre drop out she was not much more competitive than Biden.

He was forced out, clear as the nose on your face.  And for their efforts Biden gave them the double barreled "Fuck You" by endorsing Harris.  The DNC establishment was all set for a "mini-primary" (read that to mean pretence to install their favorite candidate, Mark Kelly) when Biden retired from the race or was evicted from office via 25th amendment.  So Biden endorsed Harris and the party of identity politics was forced to go along with it lest they be called out for their racism and sexism.  You can read all about it in the New York Post.

And isn't it great, Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren, Kamala Harris surrogate, has again just today, raised the point that Harris is dedicated to fast tracking citizenship for all those illegals she Border Czared into the country.

[Rick]

3 hours ago, Josh said:

The current POTUS is catholic and actually attends church. Is there a single photo of Trump inside one?

Yes, https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/trump-church

Attending church and believing in homosexuality, transgenderism, and abortion is not church. 

[rmgill]

What I like is the Pelosi/Biden catechism on Abortion, trans the kids and Gay Marriage

[rmgill]

2 hours ago, Josh said:

Fine, we disagree on the issue of competency.

You tell us the guy who can’t make it 15 minutes is super duper sharp as a tack and the guy that does the longest speech ever, drives, talks and has the energy to swing clubs on a course and make shots under par is just as debilitated. 
 

What are you smoking? 

2 hours ago, Josh said:

So we are just going to ignore the issue of Trumps statements and previous attempt to defy democracy in this country?

 

You bring up separate issues without addressing substance. 

2 hours ago, Josh said:

That’s not whataboutism, that is someone who has stated voting and the constitution can just go away,

Biden just talked about reforming the Supreme Court whats that about? Is he going to push for an amendment or just bypass the constitution ? 

2 hours ago, Josh said:

Are we just going to throw that down the memory hole?

Note, it was a proposal that wasn’t implemented and was wrong. Now lets do DACA, student loan forgiveness, federal gun control (hello 2nd amendment) and the feds effecting censorship. 

Just on that last one, is the 1st amendment unclear? Can the FBi outsource censorship? 
 

[Josh]

7 hours ago, Rick said:

Yes, https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/trump-church

Attending church and believing in homosexuality, transgenderism, and abortion is not church. 

I did not realize you had a personal connection to god. How do you think Jesus feels about children in cages separated from their families? Would that be turning the other cheek? 
 

And yeah, it’s ok that he hung out with a whore, but most biblical descriptions do not imply he paid her off like up Trump  did.

Has it ever occurred to you that Abu Ivanka was sent from the other side just to see how many times Christians would forsake thier morals for a gold painted false idol?

Edited July 29, 2024 by Josh

[R011]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

I did not realize you had a personal connection to god. How do you think Jesus feels about children in cages separated from their families? Would that be turning the other cheek? 

Jesus would likely say ity a secular political matter, not a moral or religious one as He did when asked about contemporary politics.  "Render unto Caesar . . ."

And Rick was commenting on Biden's claim to faith.  Liberal though  the current Pope may be, the Catholic Church is still firmly anti abortion.

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Thats all well and good, but im not sure there is any secularism in American politics. Not anymore anyway.

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

11 hours ago, 17thfabn said:

The last one has an obvious answer. Trump the Biblical scholar is predicting the rapture after 2024. 

One has to wonder why it matters who wins then.

 

[Rick]

4 hours ago, Josh said:

I did not realize you had a personal connection to god. How do you think Jesus feels about children in cages separated from their families? Would that be turning the other cheek? 
 

And yeah, it’s ok that he hung out with a whore, but most biblical descriptions do not imply he paid her off like up Trump  did.

Has it ever occurred to you that Abu Ivanka was sent from the other side just to see how many times Christians would forsake thier morals for a gold painted false idol?

RO11 answered well in his post below yours, but let's elaborate on your "concerns."

First paragraph, everyone has a connection to God via Jesus and earnest prayer. This is found throughout the Bible.

Second paragraph, are you implying Kamala Harris and Willie Brown? Read John 4.

Third paragraph, "gold painted false idols." Most "painted idols" would be the sinful folks celebrated by liberals in homosexuality, transgenderism and with it child mutilation, etc. 

Most importantly, Christians, unlike the left, don't see political folks and judges as their savior. 

 

Edited July 29, 2024 by Rick

[Stuart Galbraith]

That bit I said about being secular, still true.

 

 

[sunday]

So much concern for "children in cages separated from their families", so little for babies killed inside their mothers' wombs.

There is also a difference between being a pushover, and turning the other cheek when situation demands. Usually those situations are not the so claimed by the enemies of God.

Edited July 29, 2024 by sunday

[Stuart Galbraith]

So much concern for abortion, so little concern for post term abortion inside the nations High schools at the end of an M16 rifle clone. One such weapon of course, nearly killing the Orange Pilgrim himself.

Is there a book of Armalite in the Bible? I dont remember it.

 

 

Edited July 29, 2024 by Stuart Galbraith

[Rick]

2 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Thats all well and good, but im not sure there is any secularism in American politics. Not anymore anyway.

 

As someone who is not an informed U.S. registered voter you share a lack of knowledge of religion in the U.S. common with non-U.S., non-religious people.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/party-identification-among-religious-groups-and-religiously-unaffiliated-voters

Most of those Democratic Black Protestant voters are Black women, especially older Black women. 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Ah well, Protestants you see. Sunday will happily point out to you where you are going wrong there. Never trust a splitter.

[sunday]

I thought that the independence of Catholic Belgium from the Protestant Netherlands, and the subsequent establishment of a Parliamentary Monarchy was enough to show that Laicism is not a must for having a functioning democratic form of government.

[Stuart Galbraith]

In Britain, we still have Bishops in the House of Lords, but the power they wield as a result is negligible. Because there is no demand for the country to be run along Christian lines. Im sure that will be perceived as another example of Britains decline, but arguably, it goes right back to Darwin. He wasnt the cause, but arguably he caused a perception of change, whcih was probably more incremental than it appeared at the time.

See, Darwin for several decades didnt publish 'On origin of the Species', because he was scared of the result it would have on him personally. It was only when, at the 11th hour, another botanist recognised the same things and he was going to be pipped to the punch, he belated published. And found that public opinion, not least Parliament, was considerably more open to a Scientific, secular explanation of how the natural world worked. This was the age of enlightenment, of the Lunar Societies, and people were willing to have their minds open to other possiblities.

Yes, astonishing but true, British Victorians were more forward thinking than several authorities in America, whom have tried since 1895 to ban it.

[rmgill]

7 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Thats all well and good, but im not sure there is any secularism in American politics. Not anymore anyway.

 

There isn’t any secularism in leftist politics. Its just paganism with a veneer of ‘Teh Science!’. 

[rmgill]

4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

So much concern for abortion, so little concern for post term abortion inside the nations High schools at the end of an M16 rifle clone. One such weapon of course, nearly killing the Orange Pilgrim himself.

Is there a book of Armalite in the Bible? I dont remember it.

Just castrate them and perform medical experiments on them that would have had Dr Mengele up on charges 40 years ago. They’ll be fine. 
 

Also, does the COE have a set of verses about drain cleaner and knifings? Or perhaps you’re over simplifying a set of problems too much? 

[sunday]

Between 1973 and 2019 there were 63,459,781 reported abortions in the USA.

Source: https://nrlc.org/uploads/factsheets/FS01AbortionintheUS.pdf

Methinks that figure is a bit higher than the total of victims of mass shootings in the same area during the same period.

Stuart is gonna Stuart, nevertheless.

[Ivanhoe]

It continues to get worse;

 

[Ivanhoe]