Because Trump 2.0

[Josh]

51 minutes ago, DKTanker said:

Regarding Wray and his equivocating about whether or not Trump was struck by a bullet.  As Director of the FBI Wray could have found out the truth of the matter and stated explicitly that the wound to Trump's ear was in fact a bullet wound. That Wray couldn't be troubled to ascertain facts tells me he's afraid of the truth and that my friends continues to add fuel to the conspiracy fire.

Why would bullet or shrapnel have any functional difference? No one doubts Trump was shot at it; is it super relevant how he was wounded? Also I would assume whoever treated him could probably make an educated guess.

[Josh]

52 minutes ago, 17thfabn said:

It was OK with the powers that be in the Democratic Party that Biden was the oldest nominee in history last month ....... until it wasn't this week. Even though it has been clear for a long time that President Biden is in serious decline. 

But the powers that be in the Democratic Party now say Trump is too old. 

Hopefully in the future we will know the answers to two questions:

1.) What individuals have actually been running the government under the Biden / Harris administration?

2.) What was the chain of events and who was involved in Biden stepping aside, after insisting as late as last Friday that he was running for reelection?

All polling indicated that the voting population is uncomfortable with both Trump and Biden’s age, as a majority. Obviously there’s differentiation between party and candidates, but the idea that everyone was fine with Biden running in the pool of likely voters or in the media is to ignore polling and the mainstream media articulate had concerns all along. Conservative media might ignore Trumps age but msm has been fairly candid about the issue all along, and if you think otherwise then I think instead of watching MSM you are simply watching what conservative media says about the MSM. Biden’s age has always been a concern and polls amongst Dems have always indicated pronounced concerns.

What seemed to motivate Biden to drop out now is that numerous people in his party declared in private he had no chance of winning.

As for the Dems adopting the “too old” mantra: of course both parties are completely hypocritical when it suits them. But again, there were concerns from day 1 about Biden running again in the media. Absolutely no one I know wanted him to. I’ve never heard a conservative once say Trump is too old, despite the fact that he’s the oldest nominee ever and will be older than Biden if he wins and lives long enough to complete his term.

Edited July 27, 2024 by Josh

[DKTanker]

51 minutes ago, Josh said:

Why would bullet or shrapnel have any functional difference? No one doubts Trump was shot at it; is it super relevant how he was wounded? Also I would assume whoever treated him could probably make an educated guess.

Because your ilk has been 1st, insisting it was a PR stunt, conveniently ignoring the two homicides.  Then when that wasn't getting traction, as a means of calling Trump a liar that was never in serious danger because, broken glass.

[rmgill]

Dave, don't forget the suppression or tweaking/cropping of The Photo. It might put trump in a heroic light. 

Conversely how many press photogs got photos of Obama with a halo effect behind his head? 

[17thfabn]

2 minutes ago, DKTanker said:

Because your ilk has been 1st, insisting it was a PR stunt, conveniently ignoring the two homicides.  Then when that wasn't getting traction, as a means of calling Trump a liar that was never in serious danger because, broken glass.

Even if Trump had been completely missed during the assassination attempt, obviously he was in mortal danger.

[Mr King]

7 minutes ago, rmgill said:

 photos of Obama with a halo effect behind his head? 

They did that too for Biden, multiple times. Its kind of hard to take the accusations of "maga" being a cult when they are pushing propaganda like this for years.

 

Of course every lefty accusation is a confession.

 

 

[Stargrunt6]

3 hours ago, Mr King said:

 

 

 

 

 

Now THAT is why you tell someone to touch grass. 

 

That dude was the XKCD comic "honey, someone on the internet is wrong."

[Josh]

2 hours ago, DKTanker said:

Because your ilk has been 1st, insisting it was a PR stunt, conveniently ignoring the two homicides.  Then when that wasn't getting traction, as a means of calling Trump a liar that was never in serious danger because, broken glass.

NO.

Absolutely no one on this board has suggested that.

Also no, no one in the MSM has suggested that. Post sources, because I think you just read conservative media that says that this happened rather than witnessing this in the MSM. Post me nyt, cnn,msnbc, npr articles that allegedly said this was a “PR stunt”.

Edited July 27, 2024 by Josh

[Stuart Galbraith]

There apparently has been some people on social media claiming it was a 'setup', though why an apparently healthy young man would put himself where he could get killed, just so he could Trump reelected was never explained. Its not been picked up by wider media.

In fact, most of the media ive seen on youtube is people refuting the more outlandish conspiracy theories. For example, someone did a shooting test with the same ammo the shooter did on a shooting range, to debunk the idea that the ammunition would rip someones ear off. They made a convincing case it would not.

[Tim the Tank Nut]

the fact that the Director of the FBI is willing to obfuscate on such a simple thing should be troubling to anyone.  It isn't troubling to the Left because (as they have demonstrated) the Left will do ANYTHING to keep the power that they have acquired (including attempting to murder their competitors when Lawfare doesn't work).  Satalin. Pol Pot, and Mao send their approval...

[JWB]

 

[Josh]

2 hours ago, Tim the Tank Nut said:

the fact that the Director of the FBI is willing to obfuscate on such a simple thing should be troubling to anyone.  It isn't troubling to the Left because (as they have demonstrated) the Left will do ANYTHING to keep the power that they have acquired (including attempting to murder their competitors when Lawfare doesn't work).  Satalin. Pol Pot, and Mao send their approval...

…and right flank of TN goes right for the conspiracy theory on cue.

[Josh]

Nothing ominous about this FL rally Trump quote…imagine the meltdown if it had come from Biden:

 

"Christians, get out and vote! Just this time. You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It'll be fixed! It'll be fine! You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians!. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote."

[rmgill]

11 hours ago, Josh said:

 

Absolutely no one on this board has suggested that.
 

ilk. 

11 hours ago, Josh said:

Also no, no one in the MSM has suggested that.
 

Does the View count? 
 

 

11 hours ago, Josh said:

Post sources, because I think you just read conservative media that says that this happened rather than witnessing this in the MSM. Post me nyt, cnn,msnbc, npr articles that allegedly said this was a “PR stunt”.

You think they fact check their own? I have seen numerous times where CNN would quietly edit an article or just remove a video. They don’t do proper retractions or corrections much. 

[rmgill]

15 minutes ago, Josh said:

…and right flank of TN goes right for the conspiracy theory on cue.

Go back and search tank net for Russian Collusion. The left flank of Tank net has been dripping stinky conspiracy theories like a long haired dog who just climbed out of a lake. 

[Tim the Tank Nut]

no, no

It isn't conspiracy when they do it...

but I will ask:

which part of my statement is wrong?

DId Wray not read his on forensic reports?  Did he not state that it may not have been a bullet?

I don't really talk to Scalise but I do seem to remember some news about him getting shot by a Bernie bro.  Did I misunderstand?  Did he not get shot?

I can recall candidate and former President Trump getting shot just the other day when the security apparatus controlled by the DoJ left an opening the size of a battalion to march through...

[Stuart Galbraith]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

Nothing ominous about this FL rally Trump quote…imagine the meltdown if it had come from Biden:

 

"Christians, get out and vote! Just this time. You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It'll be fixed! It'll be fine! You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians!. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote."

 

[Josh]

2 hours ago, Josh said:

Nothing ominous about this FL rally Trump quote…imagine the meltdown if it had come from Biden:

 

"Christians, get out and vote! Just this time. You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It'll be fixed! It'll be fine! You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians!. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote."

The above quote from this weekend reminded me of this gem from a couple years ago:

 

”Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution”

 

But the Dems are the threat to democracy…

[rmgill]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

But the Dems are the threat to democracy…

Well, show me where their candidate won a primary in the past 5 years please. 

[Josh]

1 hour ago, rmgill said:

Well, show me where their candidate won a primary in the past 5 years please. 

So your whataboutism is that in an incumbent year, the Dem party did not a competitive primary, the same as Republicans in 2020 when they had an incumbent, and you are comparing this to a candidate implying that we simply won’t have elections post 2024 who also stated that the constitution should be suspended? Do you think either of his statements are appropriate?

[DKTanker]

5 minutes ago, Josh said:

So your whataboutism is that in an incumbent year, the Dem party did not a competitive primary, the same as Republicans in 2020 when they had an incumbent, and you are comparing this to a candidate implying that we simply won’t have elections post 2024 who also stated that the constitution should be suspended? Do you think either of his statements are appropriate?

It isn't a coup when your guys do it, right?  It was absolutely a soft coup, Biden is the incumbent president and the Leftist party decided that even though he played by the rules it set up, and the people voted for him to represent him in the upcoming election, he was deemed by party elite not to be worthy of a second term.  So what to do, what to do.  Why the Leftist party found the perfect solution, they strong armed him into bowing out of the race and then threw him a bone.  He was allowed to remain the titular president for the remainder of his term.

[Josh]

17 hours ago, DKTanker said:

It isn't a coup when your guys do it, right?  It was absolutely a soft coup, Biden is the incumbent president and the Leftist party decided that even though he played by the rules it set up, and the people voted for him to represent him in the upcoming election, he was deemed by party elite not to be worthy of a second term.  So what to do, what to do.  Why the Leftist party found the perfect solution, they strong armed him into bowing out of the race and then threw him a bone.  He was allowed to remain the titular president for the remainder of his term.

Was there any serious primary effort against Trump in 2020? Also concerning Bernie, IIRC Clinton already had more delegates than him, discounting super delegates. If you contend that he was unfairly denied his place, please describe why.

None of this has anything to do with “coup”: how the Democrats decide their candidate is their issue. They can still be punished at the ballot box if that’s what the voters want. Until the 1970s, both parties picked their candidates in smoke filled rooms and the primaries were just indicators that were completely non binding.

Now would you like to address Trumps attempt to invalidate the votes of entire states via Mike Pence? His statement that the constitution should be suspended to allow him to be president in 2022? Or his more recent statement that Christians won’t have to vote after 2024 because “it will be fixed”? Are there any red flags you would like to address?

[Rick]

On 7/27/2024 at 11:54 AM, Josh said:

Nothing ominous about this FL rally Trump quote…imagine the meltdown if it had come from Biden:

 

"Christians, get out and vote! Just this time. You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It'll be fixed! It'll be fine! You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians!. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote."

It would be a "meltdown" as the Democratic Party has left Christianity. 

[Josh]

1 hour ago, Rick said:

It would be a "meltdown" as the Democratic Party has left Christianity. 

The current POTUS is catholic and actually attends church. Is there a single photo of Trump inside one?

[17thfabn]

2 hours ago, Josh said:

...........would you like to address Trumps ...........

Or his more recent statement that Christians won’t have to vote after 2024 because “it will be fixed”? Are there any red flags you would like to address?

The last one has an obvious answer. Trump the Biblical scholar is predicting the rapture after 2024.