chino Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 This is the Chinese video. Indians left behind many injured but they were cared for by PLA and later returned to the Indian side. Those who ran off were not so lucky. They got lost and froze to death, fell off ravines or drowned in the darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Alymov Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, chino said: This is the Chinese video. Indians left behind many injured but they were cared for by PLA and later returned to the Indian side. Those who ran off were not so lucky. They got lost and froze to death, fell off ravines or drowned in the darkness. Russian-style winter uniforms of PLA are definnitely better suited for cold conditions, while Indians are visibly cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 hours ago, chino said: This is the Chinese video. Indians left behind many injured but they were cared for by PLA and later returned to the Indian side. Those who ran off were not so lucky. They got lost and froze to death, fell off ravines or drowned in the darkness. They may also have been hacked to death. Aside from the PLA propaganda video, there are also images of Chinese troops armed with pole arms: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chino Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 If there were bladed weapons used, the Indians would have reported it. They didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 The Indians actually did report PLA troops carrying these weapons during a standoff near Ladakh's Pangong Lake: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/exclusive-photos-of-chinese-soldiers-with-spears-near-indian-positions-2292409 During the Galwan clashes, as seen in the video, PLA troops were described as "iron rods, clubs and batons wrapped in barbed wire and clubs embedded with nails" by India. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/get-facts-straight-s-jaishankar-on-soldiers-without-arms-in-china-clash/story-73VYyqeWNdFMNMJrX6PWUI.html In this clash most deaths were reported as resulting from "from soldiers falling or being knocked from mountain terrain," including falling into the cold river below. No blades indeed, still it does not look very sympathetic. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/17/shock-and-anger-in-india-after-worst-attack-on-china-border-in-decades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 India launches new aircraft carrier as China concerns grow India has commissioned its first home-built aircraft carrier as it seeks to counter regional rival China’s much larger and growing fleet, and expand its own indigenous shipbuilding capabilities. https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/india-launches-aircraft-carrier-china-concerns-grow-89212966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Files Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Five, eh? NEW DELHI (AP) — Five Indian soldiers were killed when a military tank they were travelling in sank while crossing a river in the remote region of Ladakh that borders China, officials said Saturday. The tank sank early Saturday due to sudden increase in the water levels of Shyok River during a military training activity, according to an Indian army command center statement. It said the accident took place in Saser Brangsa near the Line of Actual Control that divides India and China in the Ladakh region. Defense Minister Rajnath Singh called it an “unfortunate accident.” Ladakh: Indian military tank sinks and kills 5 soldiers | AP News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyinsane105 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 1 hour ago, X-Files said: Five, eh? NEW DELHI (AP) — Five Indian soldiers were killed when a military tank they were travelling in sank while crossing a river in the remote region of Ladakh that borders China, officials said Saturday. The tank sank early Saturday due to sudden increase in the water levels of Shyok River during a military training activity, according to an Indian army command center statement. It said the accident took place in Saser Brangsa near the Line of Actual Control that divides India and China in the Ladakh region. Defense Minister Rajnath Singh called it an “unfortunate accident.” Ladakh: Indian military tank sinks and kills 5 soldiers | AP News Probably an IFV or BMP variant of some kind. Hence the term ‘military tank’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Indian order of battle in the 2020–2021 China–India skirmishes Indian Armed Forces Chief of Defence Staff (CDS): Indian Army Chief of the Army Staff (COAS): Gen. Manoj Mukund Naravane Northern Command (Lt-Gen. Yogesh Kumar Joshi, GOC-in-C) XIV Corps (Fire and Fury Corps) (Lt-Gen. Harinder Singh to 13 October 2020; Lt-Gen. P.G.K. Menon from 13 October 2020, GOC)[1] 3rd Infantry (Trishul) Division (Maj-Gen. Abhijit Bapat, GOC)[2] 81 Infantry Brigade[3][4] 1 Bihar Regiment[5] 16 Bihar Regiment (Col. B. Santosh Babu)[5][6] 114 Infantry Brigade (Patrolling Point 15)[3][7] 70 Infantry Brigade (Eastern Ladakh)[8] Elements of I Corps (Strike Corps) transferred from South-Western Command[9] Individual soldiers and larger elements of the following regiments under Northern Command stationed in Ladakh in 2020–2021 (mentioned for service during Operation Snow Leopard):[6] 81 Field Artillery 16 Punjab Regiment 29 Punjab Regiment 14 Maratha Light Infantry 3 Grenadiers 6 Grenadiers 17 Kumaon Regiment 1/1 Gorkha Rifles (The Malaun Regiment) 3/1 Gorkha Rifles (The Malaun Regiment) 4 Gorkha Rifles 2 Dogra Regiment 16 Bihar Regiment 4 Mahar Regiment 13Mahar Regiment 4 Parachute Regiment 9 Parachute Regiment 2 Ladakh Scouts 4 Ladakh Scouts 18 Guards Regiment 11 Engineer Regiment 3 Infantry Division Signals Regiment Western Command (Lt-Gen. Ravendra Pal Singh, GOC-in-C) 9 Corps (reserve brigades deployed) (Lt-Gen. Upendra Dwivedi to 26 March 2021; Lt-Gen. P.N. Ananthanarayanan from March 2021, GOC)[7][10][11] Eastern Command (Lt-Gen. Anil Chauhan to 31 May 2021; Lt-Gen. Manoj Pande from 1 June 2021)[12][13] IV Corps (training brigades deployed) (Lt-Gen. Shantanu Dayal to 26 January 2021; Lt-Gen. Ravin Khosla from January 2021, GOC)[7][14] XXXIII Corps (training brigades deployed) (Lt-Gen. Nav Kumar Khanduri to 13 September 2020; Lt-Gen. A.K. Singh from 14 September 2020, GOC)[7][15][16] Indian Navy Chief of the Naval Staff (CNS): Adm. Karambir Singh Western Naval Command (VAdm. Ajit Kumar P to 28 February 2021, FOC-in-C)[17] Flag Officer Naval Aviation (FONA) & Flag Officer Goa Naval Area (FOGNA): RAdm. Philipose George Pynumootil[18][19] Indian Air Force Chief of the Air Staff (CAS): ACM R. K. S. Bhadauria to 30 September 2021; ACM Vivek Ram Chaudhari from 30 September 2021[20] Western Air Command (AM Balakrishnan Suresh to 31 July 2020;[21] AM Vivek Ram Chaudhari to 30 June 2021;[22] AM Balabhadra Radha Krishna from 1 July 2021;[23] AM Amit Dev from 1 October 2021[24] AOC Jammu & Kashmir (AVM P. M. Sinha)[25] AOC Leh (ACmde Subroto Kundu)[26] Indo-Tibetan Border Police DG Surjeet Singh Deswal North-West Frontier HQ (IG Deepam Seth)[27] Leh Sector (DIG)[28] Leh (SSP Sargun Shukla)[26] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_order_of_battle_in_the_2020–2021_China–India_skirmishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 (edited) Chinese order of battle in the 2020–2021 China–India skirmishes Prior deployment in Eastern Ladakh included 362nd and 363rd Border Defence Regiments. Companies from 362nd were stationed at Khurnak Fort and Spanggur Tso.[4][5] 363rd have companies at Kongka La near Gogra/Hot Springs.A patrol boat squadron is deployed on Pangong Tso. 362nd and 363rd occupied pickets as the skirmishes progressed.[6] In April 2020, the 4th (Highland) Motorised Infantry and 6th (Highland) Mechanised Infantry Divisions of the Western Theatre Command took part in pre-planned annual exercises in the Gobi desert and Aksai Chin. Following this the divisions moved towards the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in eastern Ladakh.[7][8] The divisions stayed in eastern Ladakh from May 2020 to February 2021 following which they rotated with the 8th and the 11th Motorised Divisions.[7] A total of 90% of China's deployment in Ladakh is rotated.[9] Amidst the standoff, military in Xinjiang has undergone modernisation.[2] 6th Mechanised Infantry Division People's Liberation Army Ground Force 6th Highland Mechanised Infantry Division at Depsang Plains.[6][3] Two mechanised infantry regiments/brigades 7th Mechanised Infantry Regiment 18th Mechanised Infantry Regiment One armoured regiment Combat support includes a field artillery regiment, air defence regiment, combat engineer battalion, electronic warfare battalion, CBRN defence battalion, divisional reconnaissance battalion Each mechanised infantry regiment/brigade has four mechanised battalions A tank battalion Artillery battalion Combat support is provided by an engineer battalion and a signal battalion Anti-Aircraft Artillery Regiment A battalion of 24 GZ-09 PGZ-07 A battalion of 18 HQ-17 systems Six FN-6 Aviation regiment Squadron of Harbin Z-9G and Mi-17I 4th Motorised Infantry Division People's Liberation Army Ground Force 4th Highland Motorised Infantry Division at Galwan Valley, Hot Springs and Pangong Tso.[6][3] 11th Motorised Infantry Regiment following standard table of organisation 12th Motorised Infantry Regiment A tank regiment, artillery regiment Anti-tank, anti-aircraft artillery battalions Type 86 ICVs, WZ-551, 6 x 6 APCs, VN-1 8 x 8 APCs with Red Arrow 10 Army Groups providing the following support: Artillery brigade Two battalions of PCL-181 Two battalions of PHL-03 A battalion of twin-barreled 35mm towed anti-aircraft guns Twelve FM-90 PLA Air Force PLA Air Force[3] 6th Fighter Division, Yinchuan, Ningxia Regiment of J-11 Shenyang Regiment of Chengdu J-7 Regiment of Chengdu J-7Es 33rd and 37th Fighter Division, Chongqing and Urumqi Bomber and transport division, Lintong and Qionglai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_order_of_battle_in_the_2020–2021_China–India_skirmishes Edited July 3 by Perun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Files Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 10 hours ago, crazyinsane105 said: Probably an IFV or BMP variant of some kind. Hence the term ‘military tank’ That's what I was driving at with my "Five, eh?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Files Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Media report claims the accident happened during a 03.00hrs River Crossing Exercise to a T72A crew but we know that tally doesn't add up, unless the extra two were some sort of external guides/safeties. This should go to the exact spot in the video that claims T72A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Just now, X-Files said: Media report claims the accident happened during a 03.00hrs River Crossing Exercise to a T72A crew but we know that tally doesn't add up, unless the extra two were some sort of external guides/safeties. This should go to the exact spot in the video that claims T72A Maybe those two were part of recovery team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Files Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 46 minutes ago, Perun said: Maybe those two were part of recovery team Also a valid notion. The Indian fellas will probably bring it up, if they haven't already Bharat-Rakshak.com – India's First Defence Portal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyinsane105 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 On 7/7/2024 at 12:12 AM, Perun said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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