DT Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 I am sure there is a well thought out reason behind it but why are Leopard tank driver positions on the right side?
Tim Sielbeck Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 Perhaps to help improve the odds that a driver doesn't drop the right track into a ditch on the many narrow roads of Germany?
Peter3110 Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 It will help the loader access the ammunition in the nose of the tank when the turret is facing forward.
Stefan Kotsch Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) The reason could be that the British L7 gun is loaded from the left side; the hull ammunition must comprehensible also be placed on the left.. Indeed, a real reason is this not. Because it would be not overly complicated to change the gun for loading from the right. If the will were there.Traditionally, all German tank drivers sat on the left. Because in Europe right-hand traffic is common. Edited March 23, 2017 by Stefan Kotsch
alejandro_ Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 The reason could be that the British L7 gun is loaded from the left side; the hull ammunition must comprehensible also be placed on the left.. Indeed, a real reason is this not. Because it would be not overly complicated to change the gun for loading from the right. If the will were there.Traditionally, all German tank drivers sat on the left. Because in Europe right-hand traffic is common. What about Leopard 2? Hull ammunition on the hull is also at the left of the driver but loader is placed on the right of the turret. One turret ammunition has been exhausted it is necessary to turn the turret to 3 o'clock position for the loader to gain access to the hull ammo and reload the turret racks.
Wiedzmin Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) about Leo2A4 and "840mm LOS" left side front armor realy have 840mm, but right side where EMES 15 installed, it will have big cavity for sight, and only 600-650mm LOS, no ? on L2A5/6 weakned zone slightly less, since the scope is set higher so it will be something like this for L2A4 Edited March 24, 2017 by Wiedzmin
DKTanker Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017  The reason could be that the British L7 gun is loaded from the left side; the hull ammunition must comprehensible also be placed on the left.. Indeed, a real reason is this not. Because it would be not overly complicated to change the gun for loading from the right. If the will were there.Traditionally, all German tank drivers sat on the left. Because in Europe right-hand traffic is common. What about Leopard 2? Hull ammunition on the hull is also at the left of the driver but loader is placed on the right of the turret. One turret ammunition has been exhausted it is necessary to turn the turret to 3 o'clock position for the loader to gain access to the hull ammo and reload the turret racks. Loader on the Leo2 is on the left, same as the Leo 1, same as the Challenger, same as the M1...
alejandro_ Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 Loader on the Leo2 is on the left, same as the Leo 1, same as the Challenger, same as the M1... D'oh I checked the wrong website then. Then it makes sense.
Panzermann Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 Perhaps to help improve the odds that a driver doesn't drop the right track into a ditch on the many narrow roads of Germany?This and the easier access to the hull storage for the loader from the turret left side are the two reasons usually given.  From own experience it is easier to see the right kerbside from the driver's position. I have damaged the left side on a narrow road once. Just some scratches on the stones of the pedestrian sidewalk, but still damaged.  On the other hand the Marder has the driver on the left side although it has been developed around the same time as the Leopard 1. SPz Puma has driver on the left as well, but the GTK Boxer and PzH2000 on the right. Not much rhyme nor reason.
Wiedzmin Posted March 26, 2017 Posted March 26, 2017 maybe someone know source of this late Leo2AV scheme ?
DT Posted March 27, 2017 Author Posted March 27, 2017 maybe someone know source of this late Leo2AV scheme ? Tamiya used to have a book on the Leopard 2. That is where I remember seeing this image.
KV7 Posted March 27, 2017 Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) The reason could be that the British L7 gun is loaded from the left side; the hull ammunition must comprehensible also be placed on the left.. Indeed, a real reason is this not. Because it would be not overly complicated to change the gun for loading from the right. If the will were there.Traditionally, all German tank drivers sat on the left. Because in Europe right-hand traffic is common. It is easier for a right handed loader to load from the left though. Edited March 27, 2017 by KV7
Old ROF Posted March 27, 2017 Posted March 27, 2017 The reason could be that the British L7 gun is loaded from the left side; the hull ammunition must comprehensible also be placed on the left.. Indeed, a real reason is this not. Because it would be not overly complicated to change the gun for loading from the right. If the will were there.Traditionally, all German tank drivers sat on the left. Because in Europe right-hand traffic is common.This has already been done when the Royal Ordnance Factories produced the T55 upgunning kit to 105mm calibre.This involved developing an inverted breech system which became part of the RO N301T1 ordnance. This enabled loading from the right instead of the left.
Stefan Kotsch Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017  The reason could be that the British L7 gun is loaded from the left side; the hull ammunition must comprehensible also be placed on the left.. Indeed, a real reason is this not. Because it would be not overly complicated to change the gun for loading from the right. If the will were there.Traditionally, all German tank drivers sat on the left. Because in Europe right-hand traffic is common. It is easier for a right handed loader to load from the left though. I have loaded both from the right and from the left and have observed no difference.
Wiedzmin Posted December 16, 2017 Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Leopard 1A1A1 addon armorturret roof turret sides Edited December 16, 2017 by Wiedzmin
Wiedzmin Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 is L7A2 version of L7A3 without bore evacuator ?
Stefan Kotsch Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) Every 105 mm L7 has an bore evacuator (Oor ejector ). As far as I know BTW. Which German tank is that? The FCS seems to me unknown. @editVersion of Tanque Argentino Mediano (TAM) with L7A2? Edited February 26, 2018 by Stefan Kotsch
Stefan Kotsch Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 Wow. That was my very first lightning thought. When I looked at the optics. It's an experimental type on its way to the Leopard 2, but with 105 mm smooth-bore (?) gun (yes, without bore evacuator). Prototype designating PT15 with turret T02?
Wiedzmin Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) Thord Wedman: Chassies number 7 with turret number 6. Edited February 26, 2018 by Wiedzmin
Old ROF Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 is L7A2 version of L7A3 without bore evacuator ?The L7A3 variant was developed with breech modifications to interface with the Leo 1 recoil system rather than the Centurion recoil system. All L7 ordnance variants had an (eccentric) fume extractor (bore evacuator) fitted.
Interlinked Posted August 16, 2018 Posted August 16, 2018 Wiedzmin, which document is that from? Very interesting information.
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