Roman Alymov Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Kim and Kinzhal Looking at Plywood Marchal with obvious scepticism more here with video Ким Чен Ын и "Кинжал" - Colonel Cassad — ЖЖ (livejournal.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanoid Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/16/2023 at 9:33 PM, Roman Alymov said: Kim and Kinzhal Licensed NoKor version will be named Kimzhal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Zeitgeist Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 The Song of Hwasong Artillery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustMe Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 9/17/2023 at 10:31 PM, urbanoid said: Licensed NoKor version will be named Kimzhal. Bestest Korea dosen't have an aircraft capable of launching a Kinzal. The most modern aircraft are old MIg29A's and they still fly Mig17's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Alymov Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, TrustMe said: Bestest Korea dosen't have an aircraft capable of launching a Kinzal. The most modern aircraft are old MIg29A's and they still fly Mig17's They do not need Kinzhal - it is de-facto air-launched version of Iskander, and iskander itself is quite good fot Korea theater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanoid Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 12 hours ago, Roman Alymov said: They do not need Kinzhal - it is de-facto air-launched version of Iskander, and iskander itself is quite good fot Korea theater. Sooo... Kimskander? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Alymov Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, urbanoid said: Sooo... Kimskander? NK is space power, able to produce ballistic missiles that could potentially cover entire continental territory of USA up to East Coast (if i remember correctly). I do not think Iskander technology is of significant value for them - yes may be they currently can't make it as compact and accurate, but they do not really need to as they are relatively small mountain country with lots of natural and artificial cover, and their targets do nit require mucj accuracy to hit them..... More logical choice for them to ask from Russia is recon sattelite technology (to have own "eye in the sky" above SK, Japan and probably China), high-speed antiship missiles and commodities like oil and grain to feed population and fuel agriculture and industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustMe Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Roman Alymov said: ... I do not think Iskander technology is of significant value for them - yes may be they currently can't make it as compact and accurate, but they do not really need to as they are relatively small mountain country with lots of natural and artificial cover, and their targets do nit require mucj accuracy to hit them..... I remember reading sometime / somewhere about a new ballistic missile produced in bestest Korea looking like a Russian Iskander. I wonder if it was Russian manufactured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 No, but NK got at least some of the help with missiles from Ukraine in the 1990s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanoid Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, TrustMe said: I remember reading sometime / somewhere about a new ballistic missile produced in bestest Korea looking like a Russian Iskander. I wonder if it was Russian manufactured? Probably this, btw Worst Korea also has a missile that looks very much like Iskander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustMe Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 16 minutes ago, urbanoid said: Probably this, btw Worst Korea also has a missile that looks very much like Iskander. They all look very similar. I wonder if "form follows function". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn239 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, TrustMe said: They all look very similar. I wonder if "form follows function". The last thing I would imagine the North Koreans would need Russian help for is the basic shape and dimensions of their missiles. Targeting algorithms, propellant technology, metallurgy, reliability, mass production, would be the areas I would expect the NK's would be looking for technical assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Shape of Kinzhal reminds me of the old Pershing I missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Comparing fairings of the missile w/o looking inside is like comparing cars w/o knowing which engine they got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 22 minutes ago, bojan said: Comparing fairings of the missile w/o looking inside is like comparing cars w/o knowing which engine they got. Especially when high Mach numbers' aerodynamics dictates the shape, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, TrustMe said: They all look very similar. I wonder if "form follows function". Yes. The Chinese have one as well. While the closest U.S. equivalents have different shapes, that is because they are much smaller and sized for artillery rocket launchers. If you look at the nose of a HARM or the new LRHW glider you will see a biconical nose reminiscent of the nose of TBMs. It is a more efficient shape than a single curved or angled nose in very high pressure air streams (generated by greater air density at sea level, extreme speed at higher altitudes, or combination of both). Edited January 21 by Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 hours ago, bojan said: No, but NK got at least some of the help with missiles from Ukraine in the 1990s. Not some, a lot of help, NK ICBMs are land based version of Soviet SLBMs produced in Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 North Korea's new battle tank https://defence-blog.com/north-korea-unveils-mystery-tanks-in-military-drills/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 North Korea announced on Wednesday that it successfully test-fired a new intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) equipped with a hypersonic warhead. North Korean leader Kim Jong-un declared that the regime’s missile system was complete as all missiles are "solid-fueled, warhead-controlled" and nuclear-armed. Kim guided the test for the Hwasong-16 missile, an IRBM equipped with a newly developed hypersonic warhead, on Tuesday, according to an English-language report on Wednesday from the state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA). The test launch confirmed the overall design and technical characteristics of the missile and verified the reliability of the weapon system, the KCNA said. https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-03/national/northKorea/North-Korea-declares-its-regimes-missile-system-complete-/2017240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Alymov Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 49 minutes ago, Perun said: North Korea announced on Wednesday that it successfully test-fired a new intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) equipped with a hypersonic warhead. North Korean leader Kim Jong-un declared that the regime’s missile system was complete as all missiles are "solid-fueled, warhead-controlled" and nuclear-armed. Kim guided the test for the Hwasong-16 missile, an IRBM equipped with a newly developed hypersonic warhead, on Tuesday, according to an English-language report on Wednesday from the state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA). The test launch confirmed the overall design and technical characteristics of the missile and verified the reliability of the weapon system, the KCNA said. https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-03/national/northKorea/North-Korea-declares-its-regimes-missile-system-complete-/2017240 Actually it is interesting The Great Leader is risking his life standing near missile while it is prepared for launch. Probably, he is not aware of Marchal Nedelin's death But seems like he is really enjoying the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn239 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Idiots in Washington express surprise that Russia is now vetoing anything to do with North Korea at the UN, https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/unexpected-diplomatic-moves-russia-s-veto-surprises-the-us-at-the-un/ar-BB1l1dHp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=edcff75bcbc74f0f92cdfeccd0ab2389&ei=11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Alymov Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, glenn239 said: Idiots in Washington express surprise that Russia is now vetoing anything to do with North Korea at the UN, https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/unexpected-diplomatic-moves-russia-s-veto-surprises-the-us-at-the-un/ar-BB1l1dHp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=edcff75bcbc74f0f92cdfeccd0ab2389&ei=11 They are not idiots - idiots were those people in Rus Gov (including diplomatic core) who were following US line for three decades. US officials are quite logical in expecting the same people to do the same - as they know them, their foreign assets, their children in Western schools or even with Western citisenships etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Is Best Korea about to invade Worse Korea? a look at the DMZ, but a curious suggestion at the end, that Best Korea right now has the best opportunity ever to re-unify with Worse Korea by force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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