Bestest Korea Icbm Test Launch

[glenn239]

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Edited January 12, 2022 by glenn239

[Josh]

Un poco seems to be feeling neglected with all the Ukraine talk.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Understandable really. Biden signalled he will respond to threats with talks, so the Norks pickle off a missile to get noticed. 

I said giving Putin talks was a mistake.

Edited January 12, 2022 by Stuart Galbraith

[RETAC21]

50 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Understandable really. Biden signalled he will respond to threats with talks, so the Norks pickle off a missile to get noticed. 

I said giving Putin talks was a mistake.

Actually, it's the other way around, the NKs noticed years ago that if they wanted interaction with the US, they needed to pop off a nuke or fire a missile, and with Kim III they have taken steps to make those missile firings serve as trials for ICBMs. Due to the limited airspace over Best Korea, the actual range of their missiles is likely to be longer than what has been achieved in exercises.

[glenn239]

I don't think the North Koreans give a fuck what Biden thinks of their missile test.   I think what they actually care about is whether the thing worked properly or not.

[RETAC21]

On 1/12/2022 at 6:21 PM, glenn239 said:

I don't think the North Koreans give a fuck what Biden thinks of their missile test.   I think what they actually care about is whether the thing worked properly or not.

What is sure is that they don't care what you think. 

[futon]

US put some sanctions on DPRK on Jan 12th.

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WASHINGTON – The Biden administration announced Wednesday that it was imposing sanctions on eight people and entities for their work in developing weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missile-related programs for Pyongyang.

The sanctions come on the heels of at least two known North Korean ballistic missile tests. The Treasury Department first announced sanctions on five North Koreans, then the State Department followed with measures targeting one North Korean, one Russian and a Russian entity.

The most recent test came Monday, the second launch in a week. It originated from the northern province of Jagang and traveled some 430 miles before plunging into the East Sea, according to South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff.

"Today's actions, part of the United States' ongoing efforts to counter the DPRK's weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missile programs, target its continued use of overseas representatives to illegally procure goods for weapons," Under Secretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence Brian Nelson said in a statement Wednesday.

"The DPRK's latest missile launches are further evidence that it continues to advance prohibited programs despite the international community's calls for diplomacy and denuclearization," he added.

The designated individuals are:

Choe Myong Hyon, a Russia-based DPRK national

Sim Kwang Sok, a China-based chief representative who has worked to procure steel alloys

Kim Song Hun, a China-based representative who has worked to procure software and chemicals

Kang Chol Hak, a China-based representative who has procured goods from Chinese companies

Pyon Kwang Chol, the deputy representative of a suspected cover company for a Second Academy of Natural Sciences-subordinate organization located in China, where he was first assigned to work in 2014

O Yong Ho, a Russia-based DPRK national

Roman Anatolyevich Alar, a Russian national

The Russian firm target is Parsek LLC.

Last week, Pyongyang said it successfully conducted a test of a sophisticated hypersonic missile.

Meanwhile, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said Monday that the U.S. was still assessing whether that test was of a hypersonic missile with a maneuverable warhead.

Under U.N. Security Council resolutions all ballistic missile tests by North Korea are banned.

The missile tests, which follow a series of weapons tests in 2021, underscore third-generation North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's ambition to expand military capabilities amid stalled nuclear talks with the United States.

Under his rule, the reclusive state has conducted its most powerful nuclear test, launched its first-ever intercontinental ballistic missile and threatened to send missiles into the waters near the U.S. territory of Guam.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/01/12/us-sanctions-5-north-koreans-over-weapons-programs-following-missile-launches.html

 

DPRK launch a couple more on Jan 17th.

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SEOUL, Jan. 18 (Yonhap) -- North Korea said Tuesday it conducted the test-firing of a tactical guided missile a day earlier to confirm the accuracy of the weapons system under production.

On Monday, South Korea's military said the North fired two suspected short-range ballistic missiles eastward from the Sunan airfield in Pyongyang, marking its fourth show of force this month.

"The test-fire was aimed to selectively evaluate tactical guided missiles being produced and deployed and to verify the accuracy of the weapon system," the North's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un did not attend the firing.

Monday's test-launch appears to have involved the North's version of the U.S.' Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS), called the KN-24, according to a photo released by state media.

"The two tactical guided missiles launched in the western area of the DPRK precisely hit an island target in the East Sea of Korea," the KCNA said. DPRK stands for the North's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

The Academy of Defense Science which conducted the test-fire "confirmed the accuracy, security and efficiency of the operation of the weapon system under production," it added.

It marks the North's fourth test-launch of the KN-24 missile following two tests in August 2019 and another in March 2020.

Launched from a transporter erector launcher (TEL), the missile is known to fly on a complicated trajectory to evade interception.

It is one of the new ballistic missiles the North began testing in 2019 along with its apparent variant of Russia's Iskander, or KN-23, which it tested-fired again on Friday, and the super-large caliber multiple rocket launcher, which the U.S. military labels as the KN-25.

Regarding the North's series of missile launches, Boo Seung-chan, spokesperson of Seoul's defense ministry, said they pose a "direct and serious" military threat to the South.

But in a reassuring message, the South Korean military said it possesses capabilities to both detect and intercept the North's short-range missiles and has continuously been reinforcing its system to counter the security threats.

Watchers say the North will likely continue with the saber-rattling for the time being, now possibly involving the KN-25, which was last fired in March 2020.

Hours before the North launched two missiles from a train-based platform Friday, Pyongyang had warned in public of a "stronger and certain reaction" to new U.S. sanctions.

The Joe Biden administration announced fresh sanctions on six North Koreans involved in the regime's weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missile programs on Wednesday following the North's consecutive launch of what it claims to be a hypersonic missile on Jan. 5 and 11.

Nuclear negotiations between Washington and Pyongyang remain stalled since the Hanoi summit collapsed without a deal in February 2019.

The latest missiles flew about 380 kilometers at an altitude of 42 km within a four-minute interval, according to the South's Joint Chiefs of Staff.

 

https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220118000554325?section=nk/nk

 

Another UNSC meeting tomorrow.

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UNSC to hold emergency meeting on N.Korea

The UN Security Council is planning an emergency meeting on Thursday to discuss North Korea's repeated test-firings of missiles in recent weeks.

North Korea has fired a total of six missiles toward the Sea of Japan on four occasions since the beginning of this year. Pyongyang says the projectiles launched on Monday were tactical guided missiles.

The United States, Japan and other countries have condemned the launches as violations of UN Security Council resolutions. They insist North Korea employed ballistic missile technology in the test-firings.

UN diplomatic sources said on Tuesday that countries including the US, Britain and France have requested an emergency Security Council meeting.

The sources say arrangements are underway for the meeting to take place on Thursday.

The council held an emergency meeting after North Korea's missile launch on January 5. But member nations merely stated their views and failed to agree on a united response.

US ambassador to the UN, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, tweeted last week that the US is proposing UN sanctions against Pyongyang for its missile launches.

Diplomatic observers say it may be difficult for the UN to take a consolidated stance on the matter at the next meeting, as China and Russia are calling for an easing of sanctions against North Korea.

 

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20220119_16/amp.html

[futon]

North Korea on Thursday fired an intercontinental ballistic missile after more than a four-year hiatus, breaking its self-imposed moratorium on ICBM and nuclear tests.

Pyongyang launched an ICBM-class projectile that flew more than one hour and 10 minutes toward the East Sea at 2:34 p.m. from the Sunan area of the capital city Pyongyang.

The ICBM flew around 1,080 kilometers at an altitude of 6200 km or higher, the Joint Chiefs of Staff said, adding that the missile is presumed to have been fired at a high angle and with a lofted trajectory.

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http://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20220324000713

[BansheeOne]

Oppan Pyongyang style!

[Stuart Galbraith]

'Anyone for Gay Volleyball?'

[futon]

Japan's prime minister said the Group of Seven leaders confirmed they will jointly address North Korea's nuclear and missile programs following its launch of what appeared to be a new type of intercontinental ballistic missile.

Kishida Fumio spoke on Thursday in Belgium, where he attended the G7 summit. He had earlier condemned the launch, calling it unforgivable and outrageous.

Japanese government officials said they think the level of the threat posed by North Korea is now greater due to an apparent advance in its missile technology.

They also said they plan to work more closely with officials from the United States, South Korea and other relevant nations to study ways to respond, such as imposing additional sanctions on Pyongyang.

North Korea fired the missile on Thursday on a so-called lofted trajectory, which has a steeper launch angle than usual.

The missile is estimated to have fallen into the Sea of Japan about 150 kilometers west of the Oshima Peninsula on Japan's northernmost prefecture of Hokkaido. The landing area is within Japan's exclusive economic zone.

It flew about 71 minutes and reached an altitude of more than 6,000 kilometers. Both figures are records for North Korea's missile technology.

The Japanese government believes the missile may be capable of reaching the US mainland, as it was estimated to be able to travel more than 10,000 kilometers on a normal trajectory.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20220325_06/amp.html

[Ssnake]

Four years old, but still valid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2DtWz0yEOY

[Roman Alymov]

Not sure if it was allready posted: nice video of new semi-mobile ICBM launch in clip-style (skip to about 3:55 as enthisiastic narrator is all in Korean)

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/36236

I wonder if TEL could be used again after this exhaust flame under it....

[RETAC21]

13 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

Not sure if it was allready posted: nice video of new semi-mobile ICBM launch in clip-style (skip to about 3:55 as enthisiastic narrator is all in Korean)

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/36236

I wonder if TEL could be used again after this exhaust flame under it....

It better be, they had a limited number of TELs

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

[futon]

ROK F-35A elephant walk.

 

[glenn239]

Uptick in sabre rattling between North and South Korea,

North Korea would ‘annihilate’ South if provoked, warns Kim Jong-un’s sister (msn.com)

[Josh]

Seems a normal exchange between the Koreas to me. If anything it was notable that a ROK official actually mentioned a pre-emptive strike; that's unusual for them. I suspect Moon gave that guy a nasty phone call.

[Nobu]

Kim Jong-un's sister is going to be a problem.

[Josh]

1 hour ago, Nobu said:

Kim Jong-un's sister is going to be a problem.

I can’t imagine she we be any more or less problematic then the rest of her family.

[Nobu]

On 4/5/2022 at 10:10 PM, Josh said:

I can’t imagine she we be any more or less problematic then the rest of her family.

Call it a hunch, but in her case, the NYT poll of  "would it be ethical to kill an infant Hitler" is something the Korea Branch of the PSIA might be considering.

[BansheeOne]

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Date 19.08.2022

Author Julian Ryall

Will US and South Korea military drills increase tension in Asia?

Seoul and Washington turn away from a policy of detente with Pyongyang with the largest joint exercises in four years as China and Russia engage in their own displays of force.

This coming Monday the United States and South Korea will commence their largest joint military training exercises in four years, as Washington seeks to revitalize its strategic partnership with one of its closet Asian allies.

The US-South Korean "Ulchi Freedom Shield" drills will involve tens of thousands of troops in live-fire exercises combining land, sea and air forces.

The maneuvers are set to include joint mock attacks, reinforcement of frontline units and simulations involving the securing of weapons of mass destruction. 

Units will also practice using drones for surveillance and a number of new developments in warfare that have emerged as a result of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, a South Korean Defense Ministry official told reporters in Seoul.

'Recalibrating' defensive posture 

The exercises mark a departure from the policy of detente with North Korea pursued by the previous South Korean presidency of Moon Jae-in.

Regular US-South Korea drills were suspended under former US President Donald Trump, as Trump and Moon held talks with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un and drew down military cooperation as a sign of goodwill toward Pyongyang.

However, talks on signing a treaty to officially end the Korean War and the North committing to abolishing its nuclear weapons in return for security guarantees ultimately floundered.

Trump was reluctant to resume the exercises, arguing that they were expensive and unnecessary, while their resumption was further delayed by the coronavirus pandemic.

The relaunch has been planned for several months and have taken on added significance over growing concerns that North Korea is planning to carry out a seventh underground nuclear test.

Tensions between the US and China remain high, as Beijing continues to exert pressure on Taiwan in the aftermath of the visit to Taipei by US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi earlier this month. 

Russia also recently announced that it will host military units from China, Belarus, Mongolia, India and Tajikistan for the seven-day "Vostok" military exercises starting on August 30. 

[...]

https://www.dw.com/en/will-us-and-south-korea-military-drills-increase-tension-in-asia/a-62864987

[Rick]

On 3/24/2022 at 7:43 PM, Ssnake said:

Four years old, but still valid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2DtWz0yEOY

Brilliant! Also the underlying truth of Capitalism vs Communism. To bad way to many voters do not understand!

[BansheeOne]

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North Korea shoots missile over Japan in 'barbaric' act

6h ago

Japanese authorities urged residents in Hokkaido and Aomori to take shelter. The missile is believed to have landed in the Pacific Ocean, with Tokyo, Seoul and Washington strongly condemning the launch.

North Korea launched a suspected intermediate-range ballistic missile over Japan on Tuesday, authorities in Tokyo and Seoul said.

Although the launch was likely just a test, officials in the Japanese regions of Hokkaido and Aomori urged residents to take cover early on Tuesday morning.

"North Korea appears to have launched a missile," the Japanese government said in a rare activation of its J-Alert system. "Please evacuate into buildings or underground."

South Korean President Yoon Suk-yeol condemned Pyongyang's "reckless provocations" while Japan's prime minister, Fumio Kishida, called the missile launch "barbaric." No damage or injuries were reported.

Later on Tuesday, the South Korean Ministry of Unification said Pyongyang was unresponsive on the inter-Korea hotline used for negotiations between the two countries.

Missile launch 'threatened security of Japan'

The missile flew over Japan and landed in the Pacific Ocean some 3,000 kilometers (1900 miles) away from the archipelago, Japan's chief cabinet secretary, Hirokazu Matsuno, said.

Japanese and South Korean authorities said the missile traveled around 4,500 kilometers in total, and reached a speed of Mach 17.

[...]

https://m.dw.com/en/north-korea-shoots-missile-over-japan-in-barbaric-act/a-63324156

[futon]

The series of DPRK launches in 2017 were provocative and escalative in nature. They probably wanted to demonstrate/test new BM capabilities as well as test the lateObama/earlyTrump administration in a ROK President Moon enrironment in which Moon had soft/dialogue approach towards DPRK and was elected president on that platform. DPRK seemingly couldn't help itself to take advantage of it. Moon had also stimulated issues with Japan and refrained from trilateral US-Jpn-ROK joint training while both the US urged it and Japan said it was ready to do it. So the US ended up doing bilaterals with ROK and Japan separately through 2017. Through 2018 and until early this year, ROK-US bilateral training had also resided.

This time around, DPRK launches seems more responsive than yhe 2017 series. The new ROK president, Yoon, won the presidential election on a stronger stance against DPRK although barely won the election and his support rating soon fell into the 30s. However, US-ROK bilateral training resumed. Early in Yoon's administration, improving relations with Japan was given urgency but it was stated that trateral would still be kept off. However recently, trilateral US-Jpn-ROK joint training has happened. That's why this time DPRK launches seem more as a response than in the 2017 series. The trilateral training has ended and the US carrier that led the bilateral training with ROK has also departed the area IIRC. So maybe no more launches. Although US-Jpn-ROK made statement inline with trilateral partnership condemning the launch. It's to be seen if that is backed up with more joint military demonstrations. If so, DPRK will likely respond in kind with more launches over Japan that may include something with Continental US range. Maybe the trilateral seems the escalatory action although the trilateral helps in balancing China and Russia as well since those two have joint air force flights around the Korean Peninsula and joint naval voyages around the Japanese Achepolego. ＜edited in＞ although looking back even just ok this page, DPRK has been busy again launching various BMs including those bigger than short range BMs. With all the Ukraine going on and other causes for reduced event tracking, even an ICBM got over looked. It was launched in late May, so two months after the previous ICBM, although the May one didn't go its full range. https://www.mofa.go.jp/press/release/press3e_000399.html https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220525000755325

Due to that, its harder to place the recent trilateral joint training as a sort of out of place escalation but rather as it itself being more like a response to the ICBM launches.＜/end edit in＞

What's interesting this time around is that Russia is somewhat tied down with the situation in Ukraine. The US/ROK/Japan side might be tempted to see if a little pushing opens up some holes in DPRK. In the long term, I wonder if there might be interest to knock out DPRK so as it cannot stack on top of any future Taiwan contingency. Well even if not, the trilateral still serves as a response to joint China/Russia in which maybe the DPRK shouldn't have felt it necessry to launch something bigger than short range BMs.

Edited October 4, 2022 by futon