2017 Islamic Terror Attacks

[Marek Tucan]

 

 

On a side note like the way French make a distinction between the policeman (tué = killed) and the perp (abattu... abated).

 

abattu = slaughtered. A slaughterhouse is an abattoir in perfectly correct English. Yes, I approve of this writer's usage.

 

Well it is not just the writer, it is the usual wording in past cases too. Though... Slaughtered bears a negative connotation (as in, animal just slaughtered for meat, who did nothing to get killed). Slain is... Too noble, legends and stuff.

 

Maybe culled?

 

In any case it neatly solves the issue English speaking media often have, merging attackers with victims in "killed" or "Casualties".

[klahtinen]

Someone has reminded us about this speech of former French Froreign Minister Fabius et les islamistes d’Al-Qaïda “qui font du bon boulot sur le terrain”.

 

Google translation of the most interesting part:

On the other hand, the decision of the United States to place Jabhat Al-Nosra, a jihadist group fighting alongside the rebels, on their list of terrorist organizations has been strongly criticized by opposition supporters. Fabius said on Wednesday that "all the Arabs were standing upright" against the American position, "because they do a good job on the ground . " "It was very clear, and the president of the Coalition was also on this line ," added the minister.

 

 

[GARGEAN]

 

Someone has reminded us about this speech of former French Froreign Minister Fabius et les islamistes dAl-Qaïda qui font du bon boulot sur le terrain.

 

Google translation of the most interesting part:

On the other hand, the decision of the United States to place Jabhat Al-Nosra, a jihadist group fighting alongside the rebels, on their list of terrorist organizations has been strongly criticized by opposition supporters. Fabius said on Wednesday that "all the Arabs were standing upright" against the American position, "because they do a good job on the ground . " "It was very clear, and the president of the Coalition was also on this line ," added the minister.

 

 

 

Good Al-Qaeda, our Al-Qaeda...

[bojan]

Not a first or the last time France government sides with terrorists

Edited April 25, 2017 by bojan

[GARGEAN]

Not a first or the last time France government sides with terrorists

That's somewhat... Strange. Especially when taking into consideration last events in France.

[bojan]

What is good for France and what French government considers good for France might not be same things?

[GARGEAN]

What is good for France and what French government considers good for France might not be same things?

Definitely. But still, when shots fired in couple hundreds meters from Hollande, just outside stadium where he was... Just human egoism can consider that terrorists are bad in such situation.

[bojan]

"My shit does not stink and my rabid dog would not dare to bite me" aka suicidal ignorance of the reality.

[Roman Alymov]

According to Rus media, man behind SpB metro bombing was Sirojin Mukhtarov (aka field commander Abu Saleh al-Uzbeki), ethnic Uighur from Kirgizia. In Kirgizia he is wanted for attack on Chinese embassy in Bishkek, when suicide driver rammed embassy gates. For some time Abu Saleh was driver in SpB, then left for Syria (he was sponsored by local businessmen of Central Asian origin to study in Damascus madrassa) https://www.bfm.ru/news/352885

So, as I predicted in another thread, anti-China Uighur terrorism is spreading into other regions, merging with other terrorist branches - and Western support of Uighurs is not going to do any good.

[Dark_Falcon]

There has been an explosion at the Manchester Arena in the UK, with confirmed fatalities. It happened a the end of an Ariana Grande concert and is being treated as a terrorist attack. Reports suggest double digit fatalities.

 

Update:

 

Edited May 23, 2017 by Dark_Falcon

[Dark_Falcon]

The UK authorities don't like that it leaked, but this New York Times article on the bomb used by the Manchester splodydope is quite detailed and gives some insight into how these terrorist bombs are made:

 

 

Investigation Photos Show Bomb Materials Used in Manchester Attack

[break]

 

12-volt battery that was possible power source

The apparent detonator, which British law enforcement officials said was carried in the bomber’s left hand, is also unusual for a manual detonator in a suicide device, in that it appears to have contained a small circuit board soldered inside one end.

It is not clear from the law enforcement images if the object was a simple plunger switch, or included a timer or a receiver that could be operated remotely via radio signal – or some combination.

Such redundancy could give the bomber or a cell more than one option for deploying the device, and further suggests that the bomb was not as simple in design as many terrorist devices, which often are crude and prone to failure or haphazard effect.

Western bomb disposal technicians who reviewed the images for The New York Times said that a more thorough analysis of the device is difficult without more information, and that assessments of the bomb could change as the authorities analyze it further and if they collect more evidence. But its apparent overdesign, including the more powerful than usual battery, could flow from a bomb-maker’s difficulty in building a reliable detonator.

[Roman Alymov]

Another ISIS cell uncovered in Moscow – FSB raided flat where four men from Central Asia were living. Automatic weapons, hand grenades, explosives making laboratory and one ready OED with ready made fragments found. Interesting that also Hesb-u-Tahrir literature found (they are supposed to be competitive to IS?) https://www.bfm.ru/news/355373

[Markus Becker]

http://m.jpost.com/app/article/496118

 

The Islamic State has just attacked the Islamic Republic of Iran.

[shep854]

http://m.jpost.com/app/article/496118

 

The Islamic State has just attacked the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Serpents fanging their own??? Boo hoo...

[Panzermann]

 

http://m.jpost.com/app/article/496118

 

The Islamic State has just attacked the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Serpents fanging their own??? Boo hoo...

 

 

They have never been their own, because of Shia <-> Sunni divide. The mullahs are apostates in daesh opinion.

[Josh]

I was going to say, perhaps those of Sam don't like Iran, but lumping them in with IS is show total religious/political ignorance. Plus, I suspect that the actual civilians killed were in no way Shia extremists, just bystanders.

[Marek Tucan]

Brussels. Another fail, luckily. Can all wannabe suicide bombers adapt this policy of getting killed without causing harm to others? Though the narrative is a bit messy. Did he blow up himself, did he get shot after blowing up something...?

 

 

 

Man shot in Brussels rail station amid bomb belt claims

5 minutes ago

A man has triggered a small explosion in Brussels Central Station, a spokesman for the Belgian federal police told the BBC.

The man was shot by soldiers inside the station and no-one else is believed to have been injured.

Police say the situation is under control. The station and the city's Grand Place were evacuated.

In March 2016, 32 people died in attacks on Brussels claimed by the Islamic State (IS) group.

According to Belgian newspaper La Libre, quoting prosecutors, the man who was shot was wearing a rucksack and a bomb belt.

He detonated a device when he attracted the attention of soldiers in the station, the paper says.

Brussels Central Station is one of three main terminals in the city.

 

Linkie: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40349654

[Dark_Falcon]

Brussels. Another fail, luckily. Can all wannabe suicide bombers adapt this policy of getting killed without causing harm to others? Though the narrative is a bit messy. Did he blow up himself, did he get shot after blowing up something...?

 

 

 

Man shot in Brussels rail station amid bomb belt claims

5 minutes ago

A man has triggered a small explosion in Brussels Central Station, a spokesman for the Belgian federal police told the BBC.

The man was shot by soldiers inside the station and no-one else is believed to have been injured.

Police say the situation is under control. The station and the city's Grand Place were evacuated.

In March 2016, 32 people died in attacks on Brussels claimed by the Islamic State (IS) group.

According to Belgian newspaper La Libre, quoting prosecutors, the man who was shot was wearing a rucksack and a bomb belt.

He detonated a device when he attracted the attention of soldiers in the station, the paper says.

Brussels Central Station is one of three main terminals in the city.

 

Linkie: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40349654

 

Sounds like a case of "Premature Detonation", or as a site I used to post on calls it "Darwin Akbar!"

[T-44]

Failed detonation apparently (with two deflagrations or small explosions of primers only).

 

Attacker thenseemed somewhat indecisive, but finally decided to charge towards a couple of soldiers shouting the usual slogans of the religion of peace, which led to his quick demise...

 

He was apparently unarmed at that point, but electrical wires were visible on his body (suspected remote control detinator), and quite reasonably the soldiers took no chances

[Tim the Tank Nut]

Apparently there was an attack with a knife at a small airport up north. The assailant was quoted as saying "allah ackbar" or some such. It seems the FBI is not aware of a motive in the attack

[rmgill]

The motive will probably never be known....

[Wouter2]

Brussels. Another fail, luckily. Can all wannabe suicide bombers adapt this policy of getting killed without causing harm to others? Though the narrative is a bit messy. Did he blow up himself, did he get shot after blowing up something...?

 

 

 

Man shot in Brussels rail station amid bomb belt claims

5 minutes ago

A man has triggered a small explosion in Brussels Central Station, a spokesman for the Belgian federal police told the BBC.

The man was shot by soldiers inside the station and no-one else is believed to have been injured.

Police say the situation is under control. The station and the city's Grand Place were evacuated.

In March 2016, 32 people died in attacks on Brussels claimed by the Islamic State (IS) group.

According to Belgian newspaper La Libre, quoting prosecutors, the man who was shot was wearing a rucksack and a bomb belt.

He detonated a device when he attracted the attention of soldiers in the station, the paper says.

Brussels Central Station is one of three main terminals in the city.

 

Linkie: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40349654

He attempted to blow up a suitcase bomb, but while there were two separate explosions (the first one probably only the detonator) the main part of the bomb didn't go off.

 

The bomber had left his bomb at that point and was going after the few passengers and personnel that were around, not actually able to attack anyone until he charged a soldier wich unceremoneously shot him. He probably bled to death as nobody dared to approach him because of the possibility of a suicide vest. Good riddance.

[Wouter2]

The motive will probably never be known....

European press tends to use the euphemism "confused men". Most Jihadi's are confused, so there's that.

Edited June 24, 2017 by Wouter2

[Panzermann]

 

The motive will probably never be known....

European press tends to use the euphemism "confused men". Most Jihadi's are confused, so there's that.

 

I do not think that they are confused. They know exactly what and why they do it with great clarity and purpose. Which makes them so dedicated and dangerous.

[Ivanhoe]

Even the "confused" ones, who missed the rocket surgeon training day, still aren't operating in a vacuum. The messaging they get from their religious clergy at home and abroad, and the messaging from western governments and press, are obviously giving them a perceived justification for violent actions.