Don't Go Being Politically Insane You Climate Change Skeptics

[NickM]

1 hour ago, lucklucky said:

Yes. Here in Portugal at least. Also saw in Spain and UK.

Good; it seems the US press is missing that boat. Got any linkys for the UK press jumping on this?

[Leo Niehorster]

On 7/19/2023 at 12:38 AM, sunday said:

I think @Leo Niehorster would be the best person to answer that, as he knows of Bavarians and their beers. It could be that there is not an unique answer that applies to all the country.

When I first came to Germany in 1970, Germans preferred their beer “Trinkkalt”, i.e. the right temperature for drinking = cool. Basically, whether from bottles or barrels, right out of the basement. Obviously, that varied according to the season, but it was cooler than the ambient temperature.

These days, most beer is served cold (~5–6°C) . Restaurants and bars serve draft beer which passes through cooling coils, bottles are stored in refrigerators. Besides changing tastes, the commercial reason is that beer flows faster when cold, and does not foam as much. And, the type of beer consumed depends very much on the region. However, there are still plenty of Germans who prefer a slightly warmer temperature, probably closer to “Trinkkalt” (see above). Particularly the murky brews, such as Weizen, or the strong Bock or dark beers (~10–12°C). Amongst the more popular beer types are:

• Altbier
• Berliner Weisse
• Bock
• Dunkles Bier
• Export
• Gose
• Kölsch
• Märzen
• Lager
• Pils (The Czech version from Pilsner is know here as “Pilsner Urquell”)
• Rauchbier
• Schwarzbier
• Weizen
• Zwickel

Then there are a whole slew of abominations. 🫢
[Beer mixed with soft-drinks/lemonade/sparkling wine/liqueur, etc. .]

 

[sunday]

Thanks!

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

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[Rick]

13 hours ago, Leo Niehorster said:

When I first came to Germany in 1970, Germans preferred their beer “Trinkkalt”, i.e. the right temperature for drinking = cool. Basically, whether from bottles or barrels, right out of the basement. Obviously, that varied according to the season, but it was cooler than the ambient temperature.

These days, most beer is served cold (~5–6°C) . Restaurants and bars serve draft beer which passes through cooling coils, bottles are stored in refrigerators. Besides changing tastes, the commercial reason is that beer flows faster when cold, and does not foam as much. And, the type of beer consumed depends very much on the region. However, there are still plenty of Germans who prefer a slightly warmer temperature, probably closer to “Trinkkalt” (see above). Particularly the murky brews, such as Weizen, or the strong Bock or dark beers (~10–12°C). Amongst the more popular beer types are:

• Altbier
• Berliner Weisse
• Bock
• Dunkles Bier
• Export
• Gose
• Kölsch
• Märzen
• Lager
• Pils (The Czech version from Pilsner is know here as “Pilsner Urquell”)
• Rauchbier
• Schwarzbier
• Weizen
• Zwickel

Then there are a whole slew of abominations. 🫢
[Beer mixed with soft-drinks/lemonade/sparkling wine/liqueur, etc. .]

 

"[Beer mixed with...]" O.M.G.! Now my faith in humanity is at an all time low 

[Ivanhoe]

They just can't help themselves;

 

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[NickM]

Well, what's going on? Everything is hotter than it's ever been according to the pressies

[Tim Sielbeck]

Pressies lie.  Especially when they push an agenda.

 

 

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

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[Ivanhoe]

Doh!

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/500-electric-vehicles-burning-ship-dutch-coast
 

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The massive roll-on, roll-off ship ablaze off the Dutch coast is transporting 500 electric vehicles. The ship's total cargo is around 3,800 vehicles, some of which are BMWs and Mercedes.

Shipping blog TradeWinds reported Japan's K Line is the operator of "Fremantle Highway." According to K Line's figures, there are 3,783 vehicles, of which 489 are EVs. Earlier estimates had the number of EVs at 25. 

"The figure is far higher than first estimated and appears to raise the likelihood that a lithium-ion battery in an EV either caused the blaze in the 6,210-ceu Fremantle Highway (built 2013) or added to its severity," TradeWinds said. 

 

Kind of an interesting technical challenge. Not only how to extinguish, but how to prevent all that lithium and heavy metals from a major fish kill.

 

[Ssnake]

One obvious first step would be to allow batteries to be charged at no more than 20% of their capacity when loaded on a freighter. But hey, EVs good for the environment!

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[sunday]

 

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[JWB]

Winner of Nobel Prize for Physics gets disinvited from a prestigious event for denying “Climate Crisis” (msn.com)

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[Ssnake]

On 7/8/2023 at 8:01 PM, jmsaari said:

I've heard of virtual weather stations with interpolated data and i could buy weather model data as a more accurate substitute for raw interpolation, but climate model outputs replacing weather station data??? That's an extraordinary claim and I would be curious to hear the source for that. 

See above.

[jmsaari]

On 8/4/2023 at 9:39 AM, Ssnake said:

See above.

You mean Tim's last link to Tony Heller video ? First Tony Heller is not someone I would take at face value. I would strongly  suggest taking a couple of videos of his, and go through what he claims equally skeptically as one might take Al Gore or Greta Thunberg and check if it holds, and equally importantly what he's omitting. Odds are there is at least one or the other, if not both. I bothered to do it only a couple of times a few years back, once someone comes out as liar (both omissions and outright BS) there's no point to take anything coming out from such source seriously anymore, especially when he sometimes seems to make it intentionally difficult to find the original sources what exactly a plot he's showing is & where it's from. Some of the stuff he's spouting is such that an honest mistake is very hard to believe. 

Re: the specific points he makes there, firstly he's not claiming climate models are used to create the virtual weather station data, just that some date is "fabricated and fake" and the corrections applied are for the purpose of creating an artificial warming where in reality there's none. 

The reality is that the locations and types of weather stations have changed, urban heat island effect is a thing, and you can estimate the effect if a measuring station moves, likewise for the time of observation, and type of instrument and it's immediate environment, and the combined effects of all these. Unsurprisingly, Heller only mentions the time of observation adjustment, and makes it seem as if all else is for the sole purpose of introducing apparent warming when in reality there's none. That assuming the data he's showing even is what he claims it to be, he's posted enough flat-out lies that I won't take the raw data as 100% factual is-what-is-claimed-to-be without double-checking.  

[sunday]

If one does not accept the testimony of past liars, then one should not pay heed to the summaries for policymakers of the periodic IPCC reports.

[Tim Sielbeck]

7 hours ago, jmsaari said:

I bothered to do it only a couple of times a few years back, once someone comes out as liar (both omissions and outright BS) there's no point to take anything coming out from such source seriously anymore, especially when he sometimes seems to make it intentionally difficult to find the original sources what exactly a plot he's showing is & where it's from. Some of the stuff he's spouting is such that an honest mistake is very hard to believe. 

Without a specific citation you are being just as dishonest as you claim Tony Heller is.  If you want people to believe your assertions cite your reasons.