rmgill Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 You will own nothing and you'll eat bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Giro d’Italia 2023, stage 20 at risk? Monte Lussari covered with snow https://news.italy24.press/local/518290.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Rush Limbaugh was right. They are environmental wackos! https://phys.org/news/2023-05-meteorologists-climate-misinfo-surge.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sunday Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) We are doomed. Doomed! Or not. Edited June 14 by sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 They call that science and themselves scientists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 China is getting its tentacles into Africa, seems safe to assume they are working on Bolivia and Argentina. Meanwhile, in the US, Big Auto has gone all-in for electric-only vehicles, at the same time that the DOE and EPA are trying to eliminate fossil fuel power generation and the population is growing daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steven P Allen Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 I see a number of headlines today saying that the planet is in the grips of record heat. The images imply a solid band around the globe. Ummm, nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 The sun is very active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sielbeck Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 hour ago, Steven P Allen said: I see a number of headlines today saying that the planet is in the grips of record heat. The images imply a solid band around the globe. Ummm, nope. I read/heard somewhere that many temperatures aren't taken physically anymore but rather calculated by climate prediction programs which are most probably greatly in error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NickM Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) On 7/6/2023 at 8:19 AM, Tim Sielbeck said: I read/heard somewhere that many temperatures aren't taken physically anymore but rather calculated by climate prediction programs which are most probably greatly in error. I'm looking at my 'news feed' in my borders; in the a little tab is the word 'near record' (but it doesn't say hot or cold) but it's 57 degrees F. Now the tab says 'near record low'. Edited July 8 by NickM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 On 7/6/2023 at 5:19 PM, Tim Sielbeck said: I read/heard somewhere that many temperatures aren't taken physically anymore but rather calculated by climate prediction programs Correct; the number of measuring points in the (continental?) US reached a high some time in the 1980s of about 1200 stations (as far as I remember), of which about 350 are still active (if occasionally moved, but retained their names "for data continuity"). The other ca 800 stations have been removed, but they still feed their "sythesized data" into the system. The "sythetization" comes from climate models, into which the data are then fed back to make further predictions. It's a travesty of science. This table lists 2139 currently active US weather stations: https://forecast.weather.gov/stations.php?foo=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 "If reality does not support your fancy theory, then reality must change" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmsaari Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 10 hours ago, Ssnake said: Correct; the number of measuring points in the (continental?) US reached a high some time in the 1980s of about 1200 stations (as far as I remember), of which about 350 are still active (if occasionally moved, but retained their names "for data continuity"). The other ca 800 stations have been removed, but they still feed their "sythesized data" into the system. The "sythetization" comes from climate models, into which the data are then fed back to make further predictions. It's a travesty of science. This table lists 2139 currently active US weather stations: https://forecast.weather.gov/stations.php?foo=0 I've heard of virtual weather stations with interpolated data and i could buy weather model data as a more accurate substitute for raw interpolation, but climate model outputs replacing weather station data??? That's an extraordinary claim and I would be curious to hear the source for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 43 minutes ago, jmsaari said: I've heard of virtual weather stations with interpolated data and i could buy weather model data as a more accurate substitute for raw interpolation, but climate model outputs replacing weather station data??? That's an extraordinary claim and I would be curious to hear the source for that. I remember some studies made about redundant weather stations whose data could be interpolated, or even extrapolated, from the data of neighboring stations. There are related problems, nevertheless: https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/climate-change/54-of-africa-s-surface-weather-stations-71-of-its-upper-air-weather-stations-unable-to-capture-accurate-data-60685 https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/06/laughable-weather-station-maintenance-causes-highest-ever-temperature-record-in-spain/?fbclid=IwAR1G2putAtD0_bid0P4SDUqVCkxIotECNaHhxT0E0FCQp6C6T5EeUt0zSo8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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