Don't Go Being Politically Insane You Climate Change Skeptics

[rmgill]

You will own nothing and you'll eat bugs. 

[lucklucky]

 

Giro d’Italia 2023, stage 20 at risk? Monte Lussari covered with snow

https://news.italy24.press/local/518290.html

[Rick]

Rush Limbaugh was right. They are environmental wackos!

 https://phys.org/news/2023-05-meteorologists-climate-misinfo-surge.html

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

Edited May 20, 2023 by Tim Sielbeck

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

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[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[JWB]

[sunday]

We are doomed. Doomed!

Or not.

Edited June 14, 2023 by sunday

[lucklucky]

They call that science and themselves scientists.

[Ivanhoe]

 

China is getting its tentacles into Africa, seems safe to assume they are working on Bolivia and Argentina. 

Meanwhile, in the US, Big Auto has gone all-in for electric-only vehicles, at the same time that the DOE and EPA are trying to eliminate fossil fuel power generation and the population is growing daily.

 

 

 

 

[lucklucky]

 

[Steven P Allen]

I see a number of headlines today saying that the planet is in the grips of record heat.  The images imply a solid band around the globe.

Ummm, nope. 

 

[lucklucky]

The sun is very active.

[Tim Sielbeck]

1 hour ago, Steven P Allen said:

I see a number of headlines today saying that the planet is in the grips of record heat.  The images imply a solid band around the globe.

Ummm, nope. 

I read/heard somewhere that many temperatures aren't taken physically anymore but rather calculated by climate prediction programs which are most probably greatly in error.

[JWB]

 

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[NickM]

On 7/6/2023 at 8:19 AM, Tim Sielbeck said:

I read/heard somewhere that many temperatures aren't taken physically anymore but rather calculated by climate prediction programs which are most probably greatly in error.

I'm looking at my 'news feed' in my borders; in the a little tab is the word 'near record' (but it doesn't say hot or cold) but it's 57 degrees F. Now the tab says 'near record low'.

Edited July 8, 2023 by NickM

[Ssnake]

On 7/6/2023 at 5:19 PM, Tim Sielbeck said:

I read/heard somewhere that many temperatures aren't taken physically anymore but rather calculated by climate prediction programs

Correct; the number of measuring points in the (continental?) US reached a high some time in the 1980s of about 1200 stations (as far as I remember), of which about 350 are still active (if occasionally moved, but retained their names "for data continuity").  The other ca 800 stations have been removed, but they still feed their "sythesized data" into the system. The "sythetization" comes from climate models, into which the data are then fed back to make further predictions. It's a travesty of science.

This table lists 2139 currently active US weather stations:

https://forecast.weather.gov/stations.php?foo=0

[sunday]

"If reality does not support your fancy theory, then reality must change"

[jmsaari]

10 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Correct; the number of measuring points in the (continental?) US reached a high some time in the 1980s of about 1200 stations (as far as I remember), of which about 350 are still active (if occasionally moved, but retained their names "for data continuity").  The other ca 800 stations have been removed, but they still feed their "sythesized data" into the system. The "sythetization" comes from climate models, into which the data are then fed back to make further predictions. It's a travesty of science.

This table lists 2139 currently active US weather stations:

https://forecast.weather.gov/stations.php?foo=0

I've heard of virtual weather stations with interpolated data and i could buy weather model data as a more accurate substitute for raw interpolation, but climate model outputs replacing weather station data??? That's an extraordinary claim and I would be curious to hear the source for that. 

[sunday]

43 minutes ago, jmsaari said:

I've heard of virtual weather stations with interpolated data and i could buy weather model data as a more accurate substitute for raw interpolation, but climate model outputs replacing weather station data??? That's an extraordinary claim and I would be curious to hear the source for that. 

I remember some studies made about redundant weather stations whose data could be interpolated, or even extrapolated, from the data of neighboring stations.

There are related problems, nevertheless:

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/climate-change/54-of-africa-s-surface-weather-stations-71-of-its-upper-air-weather-stations-unable-to-capture-accurate-data-60685

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/06/laughable-weather-station-maintenance-causes-highest-ever-temperature-record-in-spain/?fbclid=IwAR1G2putAtD0_bid0P4SDUqVCkxIotECNaHhxT0E0FCQp6C6T5EeUt0zSo8

 

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[Tim Sielbeck]