DB Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 17 hours ago, Mikel2 said: Maybe they pissed the wrong god. What, again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sielbeck Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Chinese and Indian CO2 do not cause climate change, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sielbeck Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Famine follows political narcissism. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/21/sri-lanka-abandons-drive-become-worlds-first-organic-country/ Quote Sri Lanka has abandoned its attempt to become the world's first entirely organic farming nation amid spiralling food prices and weeks of protest. Colombo in May banned imports of chemical fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides in a shock move hailed by environmentalists. The government said it would make farming in the South Asian nation more sustainable and environmentally friendly. Speaking at the COP 26 climate summit in Glasgow this month, president Gotabaya Rajapaksa defended the policy, saying only "entrenched lobbies" were against a move that would create "opportunities for investment in organic agriculture." But Colombo reversed course amid furious protest from farmers who had been forced to abandon vast tracts of fertile soil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 13 hours ago, lucklucky said: Famine follows political narcissism. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/21/sri-lanka-abandons-drive-become-worlds-first-organic-country/ Wonder(insert sarcasm) if this will make the mainstream news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/22/dozens-ships-stuck-arctic-ice-freezes-early-reverse-recent-warming/ Quote More than two dozen cargo vessels are stuck in Russia’s Arctic ice, waiting for ice-breakers to come to their rescue, after an inaccurate forecast from the country’s Met Office. Maritime traffic in the Northern Sea Route has been on the rise in recent years as rapidly warming winters reduce ice cover, and Russia invests in its Arctic ports in preparation for a further boom. But this year several segments of the Northern Sea Route froze up about a fortnight earlier than usual, catching many ships unawares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 But, the Arctic was supposed to be ice free since 2014! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 What you should believe in? A simulation endorsed by your betters in government, or the patriarchal, Negationist, Fascist, actual reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel2 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Ssnake said: But, the Arctic was supposed to be ice free since 2014! More ice is yet more proof of man-made climate change. Same as less ice. Or about the same amount of ice. Edited November 22, 2021 by Mikel2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Mikel2 said: More ice is yet more proof of man-made climate change. Same as less ice. Or about the same amount of ice. Ice is white, so you can't get any more racist than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Quote The study, published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, found that the expansion of warm Atlantic Ocean water flowing into the Arctic, a phenomenon known as "Atlantification," has caused Arctic water temperature in the region studied to increase by around 2 degrees Celsius since 1900. Francesco Muschitiello, an author on the study and assistant professor of geography at the University of Cambridge, said the findings were worrisome because the early warming suggests there might be a flaw in the models scientists use to predict how the climate will change. British people are more concerned than ever about climate, ahead of Covid and Brexit, poll shows "The Arctic Ocean has been warming up for much longer than we previously thought," Muschitiello told CNN. "And this is something that's a bit unsettling for many reasons, especially because the climate models that we use to cast projections of future climate change do not really simulate these type of changes." CNN appear to be shifting gears, a news like this would never appear if not vetted at highest level there and in cultural space of the management and journalists. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/24/us/arctic-ocean-early-warming-climate/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 19 hours ago, lucklucky said: CNN appear to be shifting gears, a news like this would never appear if not vetted at highest level there and in cultural space of the management and journalists. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/24/us/arctic-ocean-early-warming-climate/index.html But what does it mean??! The Arctic has been warming for longer than the 'Anthro/Genic' theory's been around or something? I recall an Attenborough docco, where the region is SO cold it freezes the water to form the ice and that 'squeezes' the salt out of the water (which sinks to the bottom to form incredibly salty brine 'pools' ), and since we can't have a 'vacuum' in nature, warmer water from the gulf stream flows in to replace it. As a result, the Ocean is substantially warmer than the air temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, NickM said: But what does it mean??! The Arctic has been warming for longer than the 'Anthro/Genic' theory's been around or something? Don't be silly. Of course the answer is that anthropogenic climate change is even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ssnake said: Don't be silly. Of course the answer is that anthropogenic climate change is even worse. So izzat what the story purports to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 That's what CNN makes of it, and of course the researchers say that "this could be big" and "more reasearch is needed". 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Ssnake said: That's what CNN makes of it, and of course the researchers say that "this could be big" and "more reasearch is needed". 🙄 Conclusions and Recommendations The empirical data clearly show support for the ACC theory [after data were massaged with a sledgehammer to fit the narrative]. Further research is needed [I have big whopping mortgage payments]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sielbeck Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sielbeck Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Shenanigans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sielbeck Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Thank God for Russia. Quote Russia vetoes UN security council resolution linking climate crisis to international peace (...) Russian ambassador Vassily Nebenzia complained that Monday’s proposed resolution would turn “a scientific and economic issue into a politicized question”, divert the council’s attention from what he called “genuine” sources of conflict in various places and give the council a pretext to intervene in virtually any country on the planet. “This approach would be a ticking time bomb,” he said. (...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) Thank you Russia. Strange times when it is Russia that saves us from Totalitarian control. Edited December 14, 2021 by lucklucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Yeah, nowadays one wonders which country better defends "Western" values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I think this is grounded in economic development, not values/morality per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R011 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 These are the heirs of the guys that gave us Chernobyl and drained the Aral Sea. It's easier to recover from environmental activism than from being poisoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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