Don't Go Being Politically Insane You Climate Change Skeptics

[rmgill]

2 hours ago, R011 said:

I thought the Earth was a big ball of mostly molten rock with an infinitesimally thin layer of organic contamination.

Its a rock that grows people!

 

 

[Tim Sielbeck]

On 8/11/2021 at 9:11 AM, Stuart Galbraith said:

People were burning coal for several hundred years before then. The first major coal extraction effort that im aware of begun under the Tudors, presumably as part of the military industrial effort to build naval guns. But there is an account here, Im not sure how authoriative it is, of coal being extracted in Scotland as early as 1291. Im sure other European nations were doing similar things at the same time.

http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/498.html

Ill grant you it kicked into high gear with the victorians, but we have been modifying the environment one way or another for thousands of years, whether its slash and burn, swamp drainage or even irrigation efforts.

Extracting coal for fuel does not an industrial revolution make.  Do better.

[Tim Sielbeck]

On 8/11/2021 at 1:32 PM, Stuart Galbraith said:

No. But it would be refreshing to hear people  subscribe to the theory of cause and effect. If you keep pissing in the pool, you can't wonder that it goes a little yellow after two or three hundred years doing it.

I don't know what we do about it, but the first stage probably isn't denial.

Correlation does not equal causation.

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[NickM]

On 7/27/2021 at 9:49 PM, Tim Sielbeck said:

I feel for you.

Thanks; what gets me in this series of vids is how it's 'we have to do this' and 'we have to do that'...this vid making group never tells us who this 'we' making all the decisions is going to be. Their 'partnership with another annoying, smug vlog creator doesn't help their case either.

[MiloMorai]

Human activities since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution (around 1750) have increased the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide by almost 50%, from 280 ppm in 1750 to 419 ppm in 2021. The last time the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide was this high was over 3 million years ago. This increase has occurred despite the absorption of more than half of the emissions by various natural carbon sinks in the carbon cycle.

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[sunday]

Yes, that tropospheric heating (lack of it, more precisely) is one of the major failings of that thing the Warmists say it is "settled science".

[Ivanhoe]

14 hours ago, sunday said:

Yes, that tropospheric heating (lack of it, more precisely) is one of the major failings of that thing the Warmists say it is "settled science".

That's enough from you, you anti-tropist.

[lucklucky]

Snow in Greenland currently above mean (1981-2010)

http://polarportal.dk/en/greenland/surface-conditions/

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http://polarportal.dk/fileadmin/polarportal/surface/SMB_curves_LA_EN_20210827.png

[Mikel2]

4 hours ago, lucklucky said:

Snow in Greenland currently above mean (1981-2010)

http://polarportal.dk/en/greenland/surface-conditions/

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http://polarportal.dk/fileadmin/polarportal/surface/SMB_curves_LA_EN_20210827.png

 

Clearly climate change.

[lucklucky]

1 minute ago, Mikel2 said:

 

Clearly climate change.

Of course, since it is not right in the mean 🙂

Edited August 28, 2021 by lucklucky

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[Mikel2]

1 hour ago, lucklucky said:

Of course, since it is not right in the mean 🙂

That would also be a clear sign of climate change.

 

[NickM]

Gang:

 

Given all this climate change talk, I stumbled across a guy who I'm not sure is on the level or not by the name of Dane Wigington, who seems to be right out of tinfoil hat land but...you can never be sure; per his show the powers that be can already control climate and are using it to gain control of society and of course...purge the population of Earth to more 'supportable levels'.

 

[lucklucky]

Well politics is the only religion that says is capable of controlling climate to decimal degrees...

[Ssnake]

1 hour ago, NickM said:

Dane Wigington, who seems to be right out of tinfoil hat land but...you can never be sure; per his show the powers that be can already control climate

I may be going out on a limb (whom am I kidding here, this isn't really a point of centention): Claims that government(s) control the climate are well above the tinfoil hatter threshold, even without the "purge the population" part.

[NickM]

13 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

I may be going out on a limb (whom am I kidding here, this isn't really a point of centention): Claims that government(s) control the climate are well above the tinfoil hatter threshold, even without the "purge the population" part.

The more obvious 'believable' stuff like the collusion of the pressies, entertainment and politics to foist 'garbage' on us probably is the sugar coating for the BS 'pill'.

[Ivanhoe]

22 hours ago, Ssnake said:

I may be going out on a limb (whom am I kidding here, this isn't really a point of centention): Claims that government(s) control the climate are well above the tinfoil hatter threshold, even without the "purge the population" part.

Governments can certainly solve the climate data problem. And really, what else counts?

 

[Ivanhoe]

23 hours ago, lucklucky said:

Well politics is the only religion that says is capable of controlling climate to decimal degrees...

I believe the battle between Hayek and Keynes proved that the government couldn't even exert positive control over the macroeconomy.

However, snake oil usually sells like hotcakes...

[Ssnake]

Governments have enormous control over the economy. It's just that it's largely a negative power, like a chainsaw. Yes, you can make crappy sculptures with chainsaws if you're an expert handler, or destroy a lot of property (and lose a limb) if you just think you know what you're doing.

[DB]

I suppose that this man's reasoning for the lack of reduction in global population is that even though governments have the ability to control climate and could use it to winnow the population, they lack the competence to do so efficiently.

Simultaneous omnipotence and incompetence, at the core of every conspiracy theory ever raised.

[Ssnake]

Well, according to all the infallible projections from since the 1960s, we'd be billions more than we are today on this globe, so who knows. Maybe they are killing people by the scores, wherever the press isn't looking, with the help of sudden and inexplicable weather disasters that devastate regions - without leaving a trace.