Don't Go Being Politically Insane You Climate Change Skeptics

[Rick]

Stephen Schneider, environmental scientist and activist and, from what I can tell, probably the father of the now old fashioned Global Warming.

"On the one hand, as scientists we are ethically bound to the scientific method, in effect promising to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but — which means that we must include all the doubts, the caveats, the ifs, ands, and buts. On the other hand, we are not just scientists but human beings as well. And like most people we'd like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climatic change. To do that we need to get some broadbased support, to capture the public's imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have. This 'double ethical bind' we frequently find ourselves in cannot be solved by any formula. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. I hope that means being both. (Quoted in Discover, pp. 45–48, October 1989.)  

The above was taken from Wikipedia.     

 

[sunday]

1 hour ago, Rick said:

Stephen Schneider, environmental scientist and activist and, from what I can tell, probably the father of the now old fashioned Global Warming.

"On the one hand, as scientists we are ethically bound to the scientific method, in effect promising to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but — which means that we must include all the doubts, the caveats, the ifs, ands, and buts. On the other hand, we are not just scientists but human beings as well. And like most people we'd like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climatic change. To do that we need to get some broadbased support, to capture the public's imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have. This 'double ethical bind' we frequently find ourselves in cannot be solved by any formula. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. I hope that means being both. (Quoted in Discover, pp. 45–48, October 1989.)  

The above was taken from Wikipedia.     

 

"For the greater good"

Also to keep the public money flowing.

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[Ivanhoe]

On 1/18/2025 at 6:48 AM, sunday said:

Also to keep the public money flowing.

"Further studies (i.e. grants) are recommended."

Conference chairs and journal editors should prohibit that waste of e-ink.

[Ivanhoe]

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/03/michael-mann-sanctioned-for-false-testimony-bad-faith.php

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Here, the Court finds, by clear and convincing evidence, that Dr. Mann, through Mr. Fontaine and Mr. Williams, acted in bad faith when they presented erroneous evidence and made false representations to the jury and the Court regarding damages stemming from loss of grant funding. Specifically, the Court finds that Mr. Fontaine and Mr. Williams knowingly violated the rules of professional conduct in eliciting testimony and offering evidence related to (1) the post-publication unfunded grant amounts depicted in Exhibit 517A, and as reproduced in Exhibit 117, and (2) the post-publication funded grant amounts in Exhibit 116.

Not exactly surprising that Mann was proven to be a BS artist.

 

[sunday]

The very model of a modern Climate Scientifist!

[rmgill]

The EPA is rolling back a lot of the Diesel regs and other low return high cost regs. 
 

 

[sunday]

More on Michael Mann on the way out, but only after doing considerable damage to the Western World, the real one.

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The bigger question now arises: if Mann cannot even be trusted to tell the truth when he’s under oath and in court on pain of perjury, why on earth should any of us take him seriously on the subject of climate change? And why should a man with a track record of cheating and lying ever have been allowed to play such a pivotal role in everything from the future of the global economy to the kind of scaremongering nonsense our children are forced to learn in science and geography classes?

 

Edited March 21, 2025 by sunday

[rmgill]

I prefer the other Michael Mann.

 

 

[Ivanhoe]

Of movies Caan was in, Thief was his best work IMHO.

 

[Ssnake]

Technically, he was also in The Godfather which was also pretty good. But I guess you mean leading roles; Alien Nation was fun (but not necessarily a "great film". Misery, on the other hand ... but then again, this was pretty much a Cathy Bates film.

[rmgill]

Don't forget El Dorado...
 

John Wayne apparently had some fun with him. 

[Mr King]

5 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Don't forget El Dorado...
 

John Wayne apparently had some fun with him. 

One of my favorite John Wayne films. Better than Rio Bravo.

[Ivanhoe]

56 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

Technically, he was also in The Godfather which was also pretty good. But I guess you mean leading roles; Alien Nation was fun (but not necessarily a "great film". Misery, on the other hand ... but then again, this was pretty much a Cathy Bates film.

No, I'm just not a fan of the Godfather series. Or most other Mafia stories for that matter.

[Stargrunt6]

5 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Of movies Caan was in, Thief was his best work IMHO.

 

I need to rewatch it. Great movie, awesome director.

3 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Technically, he was also in The Godfather which was also pretty good. But I guess you mean leading roles; Alien Nation was fun (but not necessarily a "great film". Misery, on the other hand ... but then again, this was pretty much a Cathy Bates film.

Alien Nation has a special place in my heart, and I reference it often. The miniseries was badass.

[rmgill]

Good scene..
 

Feral Historian on Alien Nation...
 

 

[Tim Sielbeck]

 

[Ivanhoe]

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/22/experiments-to-dim-the-sun-get-green-light/
 

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Experiments to dim sunlight to fight global warming will be given the green light by the Government within weeks.

Outdoor field trials which could include injecting aerosols into the atmosphere, or brightening clouds to reflect sunshine, are being considered by scientists as a way to prevent runaway climate change.

Aria, the Government’s advanced research and invention funding agency, has set aside £50 million for projects, which will be announced in the coming weeks.

Prof Mark Symes, the programme director for Aria (Advanced Research and Invention Agency), said there would be “small controlled outdoor experiments on particular approaches”.

 

 

[Rick]

Haven't thought of this one.

[Ivanhoe]

https://dailysceptic.org/2025/05/20/exclusive-almost-all-extreme-temperature-highs-in-uk-now-being-recorded-at-junk-sites-with-massive-possible-errors/
 

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Over the last few days the UK has experienced balmy spring weather with temperatures often settling in the low 20s Celsius. The Met Office has been out in force colouring the maps orange and declaring ‘extreme’ highs all over the green and pleasant land. Or more accurately, a remarkably few chosen spots across the g&p land. Net Zero promotion demands ever higher temperature recordings so only unnaturally heat-ravaged sites provide most of the daily records. I looked at the last nine days of Met Office records to Sunday May 18th and can reveal that nearly nine out of 10 local ‘extreme’ daily temperature highs were posted in junk Class 4 and super junk Class 5 sites with internationally-recognised ‘uncertainties’ of 2°C and 5°C respectively.

Certain locations crop up constantly in the records. In nine days the Scottish sites at Aboyne and Tyndrum recorded area highs eight and seven times respectively. In England, Coton-in-the-Elms recorded seven daily highs while Kielder Castle posted six. Of course the recording of highs in these corrupted sites didn’t mean the air temperature was representative of the wider surrounding area. It just meant that the sites were poorly located next to unnatural heat sources and were producing a false natural air record, recently re-badged by the Met Office as a so-called ‘extreme” high. Until the Met Office sorts out its largely junk-class 380-plus weather station network, these records and recordings are largely meaningless.

Every day the Met Office posts a daily high temperature for 16 locations around the UK. In the nine consecutive days under review, I initially found that 83.8% of the highs were recorded in Class 4 and 5 sites rated by the World Meteorological Organisation to have the large ‘uncertainties’ up to 5°C. No less than 36.6% of records came from Class 5 sites that have no qualifying criteria for accuracy and can be located anywhere. Quite how any Class 4 and 5 site can be used to calculate a national let alone a global temperature has long been a mystery, and their central use to promote the Net Zero fantasy is a scientific and political scandal. But I looked further into the claimed records and found the overall picture was even worse than it first appeared.

 

The warmists suffer from the overconfidence of the smug.

[Murph]

Anyone here remember the Global Cooling panic?

[rmgill]

38 minutes ago, Murph said:

Anyone here remember the Global Cooling panic?

Yes. I remember being snowed by it. Then when it became global warming I started to realize it there was a catch. 
 

I also remember the population bomb. 
 

Perhaps I think more empirically . 

[Mr King]

1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said:

https://dailysceptic.org/2025/05/20/exclusive-almost-all-extreme-temperature-highs-in-uk-now-being-recorded-at-junk-sites-with-massive-possible-errors/
 

The warmists suffer from the overconfidence of the smug.

[Tim Sielbeck]

1 hour ago, Murph said:

Anyone here remember the Global Cooling panic?

Yes, I do remember Leonard Nimoy talking about the coming ice age.