Fritz Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 So far absolutely no Islamic connection. In fact after the video with the exchange of insults, it should be quite clear that this was anything but Islamic motivated. There is still the case of a reported muslim witness that said listened to a "Allahu Akbar" , now obviously in a stress moment invention can happen in some persons mind.American jews say "Jesus" at times even. As a formula in a moment of stress it is not unusual to default to something like "oh god" "Alla u akbar" etc. Yeah I've been told for Muslims it's basically the same as "OMG!" for westerners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahawk Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Meet the guy who insulted the attacker: http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Panorama/d/8875684/der-mann--der-den-amoklaeufer-vom-balkon-beschimpfte.html I love the "If I would have had a gun, I would have given the wanker an head shot.. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 So far absolutely no Islamic connection. In fact after the video with the exchange of insults, it should be quite clear that this was anything but Islamic motivated. There is still the case of a reported muslim witness that said listened to a "Allahu Akbar" , now obviously in a stress moment invention can happen in some persons mind.American jews say "Jesus" at times even. As a formula in a moment of stress it is not unusual to default to something like "oh god" "Alla u akbar" etc. Yeah I've been told for Muslims it's basically the same as "OMG!" for westerners. It depends from whom is made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Immigrants discriminating and bullying other immigrants so much that one „snaps“ and kills people, probably even deliberately targeting immigrants. Ok, no terrorism but still a kick in the balls of the standard political narrative we are being told. Fits well with the reports from the refugee centres of Sunni Muslims bullying and threatening all other groups. That is so bad it even gets into MSM. But I was refering to the political article of faith that immigrants are victims of discrimination and that the ones discriminating are ethnic Germans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Meet the guy who insulted the attacker: http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Panorama/d/8875684/der-mann--der-den-amoklaeufer-vom-balkon-beschimpfte.html I love the "If I would have had a gun, I would have given the wanker an head shot.. " So instead he threw a beer bottle at him ... frankly he doesn't sound like the brightest bulb from the article, but he was sure entertaining and may have made an important contribution to resolution of the incident. Seems the father of the guy who was taking the video one floor below was hit in the shoulder by fragments when the shooter fired in their direction. Random info: Perpetrator reportedly shot himself when addressed by a police patrol ca. 2030. His parents came here in the 90s, father runs a taxi company. Three of the dead, aged 13 to 15, are relatives, apparently from a Kosovar family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 So he already committed the murders when that shootout in the roof happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 That's the sequence of events. Shooting at the McDonald's/mall, then the perpetrator went to the garage to the rear of the latter. Residents were drawn out by the sound of the shots which they initially took for fireworks until they saw the armed man on the deck. Shoutout ensued while police arrived; you can hear the residents pointing him out to them, then shots again. As noted previously, there's different video of the initial two officers sprinting into the garage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q94L0n7ug2g Somehow the guy got away though and was addressed by a police patrol about two-and-a-half hours later about a kilometer away, at which point he seems to have unceremoniously pulled the gun and shot himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Thanks. Media like The Telegraph in full manipulative mode linking to Far Right. Edited July 24, 2016 by lucklucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahawk Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Meet the guy who insulted the attacker: http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Panorama/d/8875684/der-mann--der-den-amoklaeufer-vom-balkon-beschimpfte.html I love the "If I would have had a gun, I would have given the wanker an head shot.. " So instead he threw a beer bottle at him ... frankly he doesn't sound like the brightest bulb from the article, but he was sure entertaining and may have made an important contribution to resolution of the incident. Seems the father of the guy who was taking the video one floor below was hit in the shoulder by fragments when the shooter fired in their direction. Random info: Perpetrator reportedly shot himself when addressed by a police patrol ca. 2030. His parents came here in the 90s, father runs a taxi company. Three of the dead, aged 13 to 15, are relatives, apparently from a Kosovar family. Dumb as a brick. Typical AfD supporter featuring the beer belly and the Feinripp shirt. The clip tragically shows one of the biggest problems in Germany. Muslim immigrants that want to integrate themselves are often rejected by the Germans as well as other Muslims. This is becoming increasingly obvious with the Turks. You are still a Turk for the Germans and a traitor for the Turks, if you disagree with the sultan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickard N Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Thanks. Media like The Telegraph in full manipulative mode linking to Far Right.I guess that's what happens if you draw conclutions without knowing the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Thanks. Media like The Telegraph in full manipulative mode linking to Far Right. They still do try a bit in Germany. They prefer to call him by his middle name(David), not his first name(Ali), emphasize that he attacked at the same day Breivik did in 2011 and looked into Breivik's attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Yes i also noticed that they want desperately to call him David, his second name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Something else has just happened. I Reutlingen near Stuttgart a man ran through the streets and attacked passers by with a machete. One dead. A woman. Police confirmed the perp is under arrest. Could be anything. Terrorism, another amok run, an honor killing... Probably not the latter. Yes, the vic is female and the perp under arrest but honor killers leave passers by alone. Edited July 24, 2016 by Markus Becker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzermann Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 Something else has just happened. I Reutlingen near Stuttgart a man ran through the streets and attacked passers by with a machete. One dead. A woman. Police confirmed the perp is under arrest. Could be anything. Terrorism, another amok run, an honor killing... Probably not the latter. Yes, the vic is female and the perp under arrest but honor killers leave passers by alone. For the "family honour" is targeted at a family member or members. Why do it in the street? Finding and murdering at home makes more sense and is not as obvious. Running with a machete and in the streets sounds like amok to me. Great. Is it the weather making people go crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 The perp is a Syrian asylum seeker who was already known to the police because he perviously committed offences. The tabloid BILD has the most detailed information. The vic was 21, Polish, his ex and maybe pregnant. Both of them worked at the fast food restaurant. The perp was stopped by the son of the owner of (another?) fast food restaurant. He ran him over with his BMW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Yep. They fit right in. Edited July 24, 2016 by Simon Tan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickard N Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Yes i also noticed that they want desperately to call him David, his second name. I'm not actually saying that it's right but the name I use is my second name. This gives me a bit of a hassle when I travel to USA I might add since I always write my name without thinking about it and USA consider my first name to be the one I use. I had to pay to change the name on a ticket once.... /R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Well his second name is probably not even David but Davoud. But the German Police made sure that name was presented to the media was "David S." The tragic comic thing is that here most leftists started saying that he was a Extreme Rightist German and now have all red faces. I am also seeing today many in the media changing suddenly his name to Ali Sonoboly and dropping David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 "I am also seeing today many in the media changing suddenly his name to Ali Sonoboly and dropping David." It's probably because they keep getting reminded over and over again in the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Haha Probably they just are afraid to get burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Reports of an explosion in Anspach. Most of the German contingent will be asleep now, This is all I have http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36880758 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Evidently a 27 year old Syrian who, when denied entrance to the music festival, detonated his bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) double. Edited July 25, 2016 by lucklucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Reports of an explosion in Anspach. Most of the German contingent will be asleep now, This is all I have http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36880758Ansbach, the city in which the US 1st Armored Division used to be headquartered. When I first changed duty stations to Germany I spent my first night in country bar hopping in Ansbach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Well seems he only killed himself, not in anyway reassuring i know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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