RETAC21 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 10 hours ago, rmgill said: Oh no, they're all diplomacy and kind words. 😉 You were saying the US cannot be consistent because it has a 4 year political cycle, I pointed out that didn't keep other democracies from having vast empires, and France isn't the epitome of political stability, so what does your answer have to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim the Tank Nut Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 on the subject of French diplomacy: is there a shrine or memorial to M. Delcasse? If there isn't there certainly should be as be put the United Kingdom and France on terms in a time when many would've though it impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 8 hours ago, RETAC21 said: You were saying the US cannot be consistent because it has a 4 year political cycle, I pointed out that didn't keep other democracies from having vast empires, and France isn't the epitome of political stability, so what does your answer have to do with anything? I was speaking on the 4 year cycle being why things are sometimes wildly inconsistent. They are for many folks who work in the government sector and even private as policies change. Look at Keystone XXL. As to there being empire or hegemony or what not, lacking an an emperor makes it harder for the US to be an Empire. That the Queen in the UK is actually NAMED in as sovereign over other kings who swore fealty and the nation and orders of merit themselves reference Empire, it's clear that the UK IS or was an Empire. It's a shadow of it's former self but it certainly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, rmgill said: I was speaking on the 4 year cycle being why things are sometimes wildly inconsistent. They are for many folks who work in the government sector and even private as policies change. Look at Keystone XXL. As to there being empire or hegemony or what not, lacking an an emperor makes it harder for the US to be an Empire. That the Queen in the UK is actually NAMED in as sovereign over other kings who swore fealty and the nation and orders of merit themselves reference Empire, it's clear that the UK IS or was an Empire. It's a shadow of it's former self but it certainly is. That's non sense, as I pointed out the UK worked in that 4 year cycle and they didn't pull out of places on a whim. The King/Queen may have influence but no real power, which was firmly in the hands of elected politicians who, irrespective of parties, suscribed to the imperial idea, and worked as one for the empire. In the US, this overriding vision has existed only insofar as enlarging the country up to Pacific coast, not ever since despite the acquisition of the odd colony. Certainly not after WW2 until now, when the US reached peak power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 12/23/2016 at 1:50 PM, BansheeOne said: Citizens from Finland, Hungary, Israel, Lebanon, Spain and the UK among the injured, twelve of which remain in critical condition at last count. A 49-year-old man who attempted to come to the aid of victims on Breitscheidplatz but was apparently hit in the head by a falling beam has died five years after the 2016 Christmas market truck attack. He had required constant care and finally succumbed to a related infection. Some of the relatives of other victims have petitioned the Berlin administration to have his name added to those of the twelve who died in the attack and are commemorated on the steps of Memorial Church at the square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Same procedure as last time. Young Arab male stabs three, is already declared to have had psychological issues. https://m.bild.de/regional/nuernberg/nuernberg-news/ice-bei-nuernberg-3-verletzte-bei-messer-attacke-taeter-gefasst-78166796.bildMobile.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Quote Germany: Several injured in knife attack on train 6h ago The attack took place on an Intercity Express (ICE) train between the southern German cities of Regensburg and Nuremberg. Police have reported several injuries. German Federal Police on Saturday said there was a knife attack on a train in the southern German state of Bavaria, resulting in several injuries. The train was traveling near Neumarkt between the cities of Regensburg and Nuremberg at the time of the incident. The Bavarian Red Cross said three people were seriously injured. None of the injuries are thought to be life-threatening. A police spokesman told BR24 public broadcaster that the details of the attack were unclear, but that police had received a call around 9:20 a.m. local time (0820 UTC). The attacker has been arrested, police said later, and the threat is over. [...] Germany's Bild newspaper said investigators are currently ruling out a terrorist background to the incident. Police gave no information about the arrested suspect. But German media reports said the attacker is a 27-year-old man of "Arab origin" who is believed to be suffering from psychiatric problems and had called for help on the train. [...] https://m.dw.com/en/germany-several-injured-in-knife-attack-on-train/a-59740302 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 At what point do train guards get stab vests as standard issue, I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sielbeck Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 When they make their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 hours ago, DB said: At what point do train guards get stab vests as standard issue, I wonder? The singular, unconnected wankers seem to be in the habit to go for the neck. Not much point in using a vest. Also no idea where his victims got stabbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, Markus Becker said: The singular, unconnected wankers seem to be in the habit to go for the neck. Not much point in using a vest. Also no idea where his victims got stabbed. Time to memorize the location of all the fire extinguishers aboard a train, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 The story goes that they removed all the fire extinguishers from London Underground trains when they realised more people were hurt by others misusing them than had ever been saved in a fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Seems to be some sort of Bavarian zombie virus. Quote Child seriously injured in Munich: Man stabs ten-year-olds with a knife 07.11.2021 A man attacked a ten-year-old boy with a kitchen knife in a clothing store in Munich. The child was injured in the neck and shoulder, the police said. Witnesses provided first aid to the child while other customers overpowered the 57-year-old perpetrator. Police forces who came with more than ten patrols arrested the suspect shortly afterwards. The man is therefore a stateless person residing in Munich. He is being investigated for an attempted homicide. He is to be brought before the judge during the course of the day. The boy is in the hospital. His injuries are reportedly severe but not life-threatening. The background to the crime was initially unclear. https://detv.us/2021/11/07/child-seriously-injured-in-munich-man-stabs-ten-year-olds-with-a-knife/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 News from the allegedly* mentally ill train attacker. After going through his electronic devices they found Islamic State terror propaganda. *Apparently he was aware of his state of mental illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Another apparent car rampager in Berlin: 29-year-old German-Armenian drives his older sister's Renault Clio compact onto the sidewalk twice, plowing through a crowd reportedly including a school class from Hesse, and ending up in a cosmetics store. One dead (reportedly a teacher), six critically, three severely and several lightly injured. Driver suffered a head injury and was detained by bystanders before taken into police custody. He was previously known to police, but not as an extremist, and a note found in the car is allegedly not political. The scene is close to the site of the Christmas market truck attack from a couple years ago though, and some sort of copycat effect may be suspected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) The "note" in the car turned out to be a placard referencing the Armenian genocide, but unsurprisingly the guy appears to be mostly another mental case, making random crazy statements in Armenian. Total of 29 injured, including 14 tenth-graders and another teacher. I would suspect some inspiration by the Uvalde shooting, except that driving around the site of an earlier ramming attack looking for a school class happening to walk by seems an unlikely proposition even by the relaxed sanity standards of rampagers. Mind, Berlin is always full of school trippers, particularly in the warm season, which argues as much for a random as a targeted attack. Edited to fix casualty numbers. Edited June 9, 2022 by BansheeOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Also: Quote Date 10.06.2022 Germany: Knife attack at university in Hamm leaves several wounded Four people were wounded after an assailant attacked them with a knife at a university campus in the western German city of Hamm. The students reportedly overpowered the attacker. A suspect injured four people with a knife at the Hamm-Lippstadt University of Applied Sciences in the western German city of Hamm on Friday. The alleged perpetrator was apprehended by students in a lecture hall, who then held him until the police arrived. The suspect is a 34-year-old man, said a police spokesman. What do we know about the attack? Three women and one man were wounded in the attack. According to authorities, one victim's injuries were so serious that they were flown to a hospital by helicopter. It is still unclear whether an attacker is or was a student at the university. The possible motive for the attack is also not yet clear. According to initial reports, the suspect entered a university building around 3:30 p.m. and attacked people in the corridors. Then he went into a large lecture hall where he was apprehended. The emergency services warned on Twitter: "We are on site with strong police forces and ask you to avoid this area." [...] https://www.dw.com/en/germany-knife-attack-at-university-in-hamm-leaves-several-wounded/a-62095242 The woman airlifted to hospital is still reported critical. The suspect lived in a uni dorm, so is likely a student. He is undergoing psychiatric evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 The hospitalized victim in the Hamm stabbing, a 30-year-old lecturer, has died. The suspect has been admitted to a psychiatric institution; re-admitted, really, because he had already been there after a suicide attempt two days before the attack, but released himself on the day itself. Reportedly he suffered from paranoia and took the victims which he appears to have attacked at random - also two female and a male student all aged 22 - for members of some group out to kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 6/27/2021 at 10:15 AM, BansheeOne said: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-police-puzzle-over-motive-of-würzburg-knife-attacker/a-58056501 Per one report, this guy also told police that the attack was his jihad; then again, after his spell in psychiatry over threatening a fellow inhabitant and administrator of the homeless shelter in January, he was admitted again after a traffic altercation this month, but discharged after a day for lack of necessity. As the good minister says, probably a little bit out of column A and a little out of column B, as so often. Quote Date 22.07.2022 Author Nik Martin Germany: Würzburg attacker still highly dangerous, says doctor A psychiatrist has told a German court that the man accused of carrying out multiple fatal stabbings in June 2021 suffers from paranoid schizophrenia. Three people were killed and nine others were injured in the attack. A German court on Friday heard that the man who allegedly killed three people and injured nine others in the southern central city of Würzburg last summer is mentally ill and still very dangerous if he does not undergo successful treatment. Somali national Jibril A., who was first registered in Germany at the height of the 2015 migrant crisis, was arrested shortly after the stabbings on June 25, 2021. The attacks, which started in a department store, continued on one of the main shopping streets in the city center. Attacker thought secret services were on his trail "There is no doubt that the accused suffers from paranoid schizophrenia," psychiatrist Hans-Peter Volz told the court in Estenfeld near Würzburg. Volz said on the day of the attacks that June, Jibril A. was "acutely delusional." He was hearing voices and believed he was being followed by secret services. "There is a high probability that we have a person in front of us [...] who felt controlled," Volz said. "He was sure he was doing the right thing [by carrying out the attacks] and had no choice but to do it." Volz spoke of a low likelihood that the accused will recover from his illness. "Even with very good treatment, the risk that the subject will become psychotic again is not zero," added the medical director of the Werneck Castle Hospital for Psychiatry, Psychotherapy and Psychosomatic Medicine. Suspect not criminally liable Prosecutors have agreed that the accused was not criminally liable in the case due to his psychiatric illness. That means the court is following a special legal procedure for such cases and that the man is set to be transferred to a hospital after the proceedings are concluded. His guilt in the case is considered to have been proven. [...] https://www.dw.com/en/germany-würzburg-attacker-still-highly-dangerous-says-doctor/a-62565174 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 14 hours ago, BansheeOne said: A German court on Friday heard that the man who allegedly killed three people ... His guilt in the case is considered to have been proven. With all due respect, DW, this attempt at "objectivity" obfuscates more than it helps. If the guilt is proven, it's no longer an alleged killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Quote Germany: Würzburg knife attacker ordered to psychiatric clinic 3h ago The man, a Somali refugee, is mentally ill and should be placed in a psychiatric ward, his attorney argued. In June of last year, he was responsible for the deaths of three women in an attack in the center of Würzburg. Judge Thomas Schuster of the Würzburg Regional Court Tuesday ordered a Somali refugee responsible for slaying three women and injuring nine others in a knife attack last year be sent to a psychiatric ward indefinitely following a jury's verdict in the case. On June 25, 2021, the man used a kitchen knife to attack pedestrians in Barbarossaplatz in the center of the southern German city of Würzburg. The killings were carried out in response to voices he was hearing at the time, experts testified at the trial. The Munich Prosecutor General's office charged the man with three counts of murder and six counts of attempted murder. The verdict is not yet legally binding as the Somali man has the chance to appeal. The man's lawyer, Tilman Michler, argued in court Monday when the plea was submitted that his client be remanded to a psychiatric facility due to mental illness. The Chief Public Prosecutor, Judith Henkel, agreed with the assessment in court Monday, asking for the accused to be sent to a psychiatric hospital for an undefined period. [...] https://m.dw.com/en/germany-würzburg-knife-attacker-ordered-to-psychiatric-clinic/a-62597056 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 On 12/2/2020 at 6:00 PM, BansheeOne said: Yet another car rampager. 51-year-old German named as Bernd W. with a BAC of 0.14, (quite) likely mental issues and no fixed abode who seems to have lived in the Range Rover of an acquaintance (reported as unconnected to the attack) for several days before driving it into a Trier pedestrian zone yesterday. He was detained by police within four minutes after the first emergency call, resisting arrest, but not before killing five, including a father and nine-week-old baby, and injuring 14 others, including the mother and one-and-a-half-year-old son of the same family. Unlike in previous years at this time, there were no barriers emplaced to prevent such attacks since the local Christmas market has been cancelled due to COVID. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-crime/five-killed-including-baby-as-car-ploughs-into-pedestrian-zone-in-germany-idUKKBN28B51K Quote Germany: Trier rampage driver gets life in prison 59m ago The attacker was convicted of five counts of murder and 18 counts of attempted murder for driving into a crowd of people in Germany's Trier in 2020. He will also be placed in a high-security psychiatric hospital. The driver of a car which rammed into pedestrians in the German city of Trier in December 2020 was sentenced to life in prison on Tuesday. Five people were killed — including a nine-week-old baby and the baby's father — when the 52-year-old male drove through a pedestrian zone in his SUV in the western German city that lies in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate. He was convicted of five counts of murder and 18 counts of attempted murder. A sixth victim died nearly a year after the attack. The Trier Regional Court also ordered him to be placed in a high-security psychiatric hospital. Prosecutors argued during the year-long trial that the driver had planned the attack with the intention of "killing or injuring as many as possible" with the court accepting this argument. No recollection of events According to a psychiatrist's report, the accused suffered from paranoid schizophrenia and had no recollection of the events of December 1, 2020. The psychiatrist explained that the 52-year-old saw himself as the victim of "a large-scale state conspiracy" and felt he was persecuted, bugged and even being monitored. The trained electrician remained silent throughout the trial. According to the prosecution, the accused was single, unemployed, without a permanent residence and embittered by his personal circumstances. [...] https://m.dw.com/en/germany-trier-rampage-driver-gets-life-in-prison/a-62823049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 4:36 PM, BansheeOne said: Another apparent car rampager in Berlin: 29-year-old German-Armenian drives his older sister's Renault Clio compact onto the sidewalk twice, plowing through a crowd reportedly including a school class from Hesse, and ending up in a cosmetics store. One dead (reportedly a teacher), six critically, three severely and several lightly injured. Driver suffered a head injury and was detained by bystanders before taken into police custody. He was previously known to police, but not as an extremist, and a note found in the car is allegedly not political. The scene is close to the site of the Christmas market truck attack from a couple years ago though, and some sort of copycat effect may be suspected. For the trial against this guy, prosecution has moved to have him perma-institutionalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 11/6/2021 at 12:17 PM, Markus Becker said: Same procedure as last time. Young Arab male stabs three, is already declared to have had psychological issues. https://m.bild.de/regional/nuernberg/nuernberg-news/ice-bei-nuernberg-3-verletzte-bei-messer-attacke-taeter-gefasst-78166796.bildMobile.html Quote Germany: Bavaria train attacker handed 14-year jail sentence 14 minutes ago The 28-year-old pulled a knife on four passengers on a high-speed train in the southern state of Bavaria last November. The trial focused on whether his attack was motivated by Islamic extremism or schizophrenia. The man who carried out a knife attack on a German high-speed train was sentenced to 14 years in prison on Friday. A court in Munich found that Abdalrahman A. was culpable despite claims he was mentally ill at the time. The 28-year-old was found guilty of attempted murder and dangerous bodily harm. What happened during the attack? On November 6, 2021, Abdalrahman A. was traveling on an Intercity Express (ICE) train from Passau to Nuremberg when he pulled a knife on four other passengers, seriously injuring three of them. A folding knife with an 8-centimeter (3.1-inch) blade was found on the suspect. According to media reports at the time, more than 200 people were on the train and several stepped in to prevent the attacker from injuring other people. Why is this case important? At the time of the attack, investigators were doubtful of a terrorist motive for the incident and said the attacker appeared to be suffering from psychiatric problems and had called for help on the train. The defendant was initially taken to a psychiatric unit, but two months later he was remanded in custody where he has remained until now. During the two-month trial, the federal prosecutor's office pushed an Islamist motive for the crime and demanded a life sentence for alleged attempted murder and dangerous bodily harm. According to German intelligence, Abdalrahman A. visited a Salafist mosque and allegedly tried to do his part in the jihad by killing non-Muslims. The defense, meanwhile, argued that the attack was a result of delusion caused by their client's paranoid schizophrenia. Several witnesses, including the prison psychiatrist, stated that the defendant was schizophrenic. The violence was not preceded by an argument, Germany's DPA news agency reported at the time. However, the court heard from a total of seven psychiatrists and a psychiatric report found full culpability. As a result, the chamber could rule out several mental health issues. Abdalrahman A., a Palestinian, has lived in Germany since 2014 as a refugee, having arrived from war-torn Syria. He has been living in Passau and had recently lost his job, police said. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-bavaria-train-attacker-handed-14-year-jail-sentence/a-64194275 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, BansheeOne said: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-bavaria-train-attacker-handed-14-year-jail-sentence/a-64194275 That he wasn't clinically insane was determined some time ago after investigation and examination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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