Troubles In Turkey

[BansheeOne]

You mean the government didn't find out that the 15,000 civil servants in education they suspended today and the 24 radio and TV stations which got their licenses revoked, also today, were in cahoots with the putschist since the weekend?

Edited July 19, 2016 by BansheeOne

[Simon Tan]

I am quietly hopeful of all out civil war. Syria writ large. It would only be fitting.

Edited July 19, 2016 by Simon Tan

[glenn239]

Civil war in Turkey could mean war in the Balkans next. These insurgency things have a tendency to become a lifestyle choice...

[JasonJ]

Civil war in Turkey could mean war in the Balkans next. These insurgency things have a tendency to become a lifestyle choice...

 

Cost for the greater good.

[TTK Ciar]

Lakowski tried assembling a think tank of tanknetters once upon a time, but it was like trying to keep cats in a box.

[RETAC21]

We better make a TN's Guide to a Successful Coup book and sell it on Amazon. Will sell like hotcakes.

 

We can further the squeeze the milk cow by making country specific versions. "TN's Guide to a Successful Coup in the UK," "TN's Guide to a Successful Coup in Germany," etc etc.

 

Already done, in 1932

 

https://www.amazon.com/Technique-Coup-DEtat-Revolution/dp/149756784X

[Simon Tan]

I doubt it. Might result in a whole lotta refugees. The Kemalist state is dead and the Ikhwan is on the move. Sultan was supported in all this.

[sunday]

Lakowski tried assembling a think tank of tanknetters once upon a time, but it was like trying to keep cats in a box.

 

With kittens it is possible.

 

With old tomcats, however...

[Josh]

I am quietly hopeful of all out civil war. Syria writ large. It would only be fitting.

That seems a little unlikely given the actual actions of people on the ground and the fact that anyone in the military remotely unsupportive has/will been purged. But you can dream.

[Corinthian]

 

 

We better make a TN's Guide to a Successful Coup book and sell it on Amazon. Will sell like hotcakes.

 

We can further the squeeze the milk cow by making country specific versions. "TN's Guide to a Successful Coup in the UK," "TN's Guide to a Successful Coup in Germany," etc etc.

Already done, in 1932

 

https://www.amazon.com/Technique-Coup-DEtat-Revolution/dp/149756784X

Obviously needs to be updated to include FB, Twitter, Instagram, etc etc

[Corinthian]

As for historical parallels, well, Erdo has some fondness for that...

 

[Colin]

One news article at RT claims 14 ships unaccounted for and now this https://www.rt.com/news/352148-wikileaks-turkey-government-emails/?utm_source=SpotIM&utm_medium=Recommendations&spot_im_comment_id=sp_6phY2k0C_352148_c_u9zgke

[Mr King]

[urbanoid]

Lakowski tried assembling a think tank of tanknetters once upon a time, but it was like trying to keep cats in a box.

 

 

But cats love boxes!

Edited July 20, 2016 by urbanoid

[Simon Tan]

Not dead ones.

[BansheeOne]

You have been recalled to Moscow, tovarich.

 

Turkey coup attempt: Academics banned from going abroad

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Turkey has temporarily banned all academics from travelling abroad, officials say.

The move follows last week's failed coup and comes amid a wide-ranging purge of state employees.

More than 50,000 people have been rounded up, sacked or suspended, including about 21,000 teachers.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is chairing meetings of his national security council and cabinet in the capital, Ankara.

It is the first time since he has returned to the city after the attempted coup on Friday.

The BBC's Nick Thorpe in Ankara says that the meeting will be the president's first chance since the coup attempt to sit and talk in person with all key members of the government and armed forces.

Mr Erdogan's task is to re-impose stability amid the turmoil, our correspondent adds, and to reassure Turkey and its allies abroad that he is not embarking on a witch-hunt against his many critics.

So far about 1,577 university deans (faculty heads) have been asked to resign in addition to 21,000 teachers and 15,000 education ministry officials.

As soon as it became clear that the coup had failed, the purges began - first with the security forces, then spreading to Turkey's entire civilian infrastructure.

Turkey extended the clear-out to the education sector because it says it wants to root out supporters of US-based cleric Fethullah Gulen, who it accuses of organising the attempted putsch.

The Higher Education Council has asked university rectors to "urgently examine the situation of all academic and administrative personnel" linked to what it calls the Fethullah Terrorist Organisation (Feto) and report back by 5 August.

It has also told universities that academics who are already abroad on work or study missions should return home "within the shortest possible time".

A government official told the Reuters news agency that the ban on academics travelling abroad was a temporary measure implemented to stop alleged coup plotters in universities from fleeing abroad.

Turkey is pressing the US to extradite Mr Gulen and the issue was raised during a phone call between US President Barack Obama and President Erdogan on Tuesday, the White House said.

Spokesman Josh Earnest said a decision on whether or not to extradite would be made under a treaty between the two countries.

In a separate development Turkey has barred access to the WikiLeaks website soon after it posted about 300,000 emails sent by President Erdogan's AK Party dating from 2000 to early July 2016.

Wikileaks said that although the documents were obtained before the attempted coup, the date of their publication was brought forward "in response to the government's post-coup purges".

The source of the emails was not linked to the coup plotters or to a rival political party or country, WikiLeaks said.

Turkey's military also announced on Wednesday that it had resumed cross-border strikes against Kurdish rebel targets in northern Iraq, killing about 20 alleged militants. They were the first since the attempted coup.

F-16 jets were reported to have targeted positions of the banned Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) in Iraq's Hakurk region, Anadolu Agency reported.

The Turkish military has regularly targeted suspected PKK bases in Iraq since last year.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36843180

[JasonJ]

Turkey made a similar demand on Japan regarding Mr. Gulen.

 

Turkish Ambassador Ahmet Bulent Meric on Wednesday called for a crackdown in Japan on Turkish businesses he accuses of raising funds for U.S.-based fugitive cleric Fethullah Gulen. Ankara accuses Gulen of orchestrating Friday’s failed coup.

Meric said the global Gulen Movement, a body that espouses liberal Islamic social thought, arrived in Japan in the 1990s. He said the movement engages in “illegal activities” and raises funds through trading and educational businesses in Japan.

Ankara dubs the movement “FETO,” which in Turkish means the Gulenist Terror Organization.

“We have already asked the Japanese government to suspend their activities,” Meric told an audience at the Japan National Press Club. “If Tokyo allows their activities in Japan, it is tolerating and protecting the organization that is trying to change the government system in Turkey.”

He named international schools and language schools in Sendai, Yokohama and Tokyo.

A diplomatic source confirmed that Japan had received such a request from Ankara sometime before Friday’s failed putsch but said the firms it named do not appear to be engaged in illegal activities.

While critics accuse Erdogan of pushing to entrench Islamic values in public life, he has said he is comitted to secularism. Gulenists believe in a secular government. They are particularly active in education.

The movement is said to have a presence in more than 120 countries where it runs a range of tuition facilities. The cleric himself lives in self-imposed exile in Pennsylvania.

The ambassador’s remarks come at a time when the government of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is conducting massive purges. The sackings appear to target suspected Gulen supporters.

While nations condemned the coup attempt, they have expressed concern at the suspensions and arrests of thousands of military officers, police, teachers and journalists. On Monday the European Union’s foreign policy chief urged Turkey to observe the rule of law.

Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim on Tuesday said his administration has filed a formal extradition request for Gulen, supporting it with four dossiers that purport to show his involvement with the coup. U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has said a decision to extradite Gulen would require clear proof of wrongdoing.

 

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/07/20/national/politics-diplomacy/turkish-ambassador-urges-japan-crack-businesses-backing-gulen/#.V49gFqIXWdt

[Simon Tan]

Im very amused by the prosciption for burying coup plotters as Muslims. It just makes a mockery of his Ikhwan. They don't even do that to DAESH.

[Panzermann]

Im very amused by the prosciption for burying coup plotters as Muslims. It just makes a mockery of his Ikhwan. They don't even do that to DAESH.

Gülen is Sufi.

No true scotsman and all that.

[Simon Tan]

Most of tge coup KIA are likely Sunni. I like the idea of the ikhwan crapping on everyone else less believing. There is yet hope for a truly impressive smashing of the Turkish nation state.

[toysoldier]

Turkey made a similar demand on Japan regarding Mr. Gulen.

 

Turkish Ambassador Ahmet Bulent Meric on Wednesday called for a crackdown in Japan on Turkish businesses he accuses of raising funds for U.S.-based fugitive cleric Fethullah Gulen. Ankara accuses Gulen of orchestrating Friday’s failed coup.

 

“We have already asked the Japanese government to suspend their activities,” Meric told an audience at the Japan National Press Club. “If Tokyo allows their activities in Japan, it is tolerating and protecting the organization that is trying to change the government system in Turkey.”

 

He named international schools and language schools in Sendai, Yokohama and Tokyo.

 

A diplomatic source confirmed that Japan had received such a request from Ankara sometime before Friday’s failed putsch but said the firms it named do not appear to be engaged in illegal activities.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/07/20/national/politics-diplomacy/turkish-ambassador-urges-japan-crack-businesses-backing-gulen/#.V49gFqIXWdt

 

Aw but they just made a movie together and sheet

[Panzermann]

for the record:

 

TURKEY ATTEMPTED COUP 18 JULY 2016

Turkey: Coup plotters 'acted early' in fear of arrests

Turkey officials say coup plotters likely to have staged attempt prematurely, after learning they were to be arrested.

By Umut Uras

 

The faction in the Turkish army that tried to stage a coup was under investigation before the actual incident took place, and most likely acted out of a growing fear that it was under investigation, according to two Turkish officials.

 

At least 290 people died and thousands of civilian and military state employees were sacked or detained after rebel soldiers attempted to overthrow the government on Friday, bombing state buildings, including the parliament, and killing civilians and security forces.

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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/turkish-putschists-acted-early-fear-arrests-160718131344577.html

[BansheeOne]

Erdogan just declared a state of emergency for three months.

[Ssnake]

Erdogan just declared a state of emergency for as long as necessary, starting with an initial period of three months.

 

FIFY.

[Mikel2]

Are there going to be show trials before they shoot those enemies of the state?