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bwahahahaha what a "nationalist" holding a second citizenship :lol:

and endangerng the current government coalition.

 

 

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Australia's deputy PM Barnaby Joyce revealed to be a New Zealander

NZ confirms that the Nationals leader is a citizen – threatening Malcolm Turnbull’s one-seat majority

 

 

 

Christopher Knaus in Sydney and Eleanor Ainge Roy in Dunedin

 

Monday 14 August 2017 09.25 BST Last modified on Monday 14 August 2017 15.45 BST

Australia’s deputy prime minister, Barnaby Joyce, may be ineligible to sit in the country’s parliament after it emerged he is a New Zealand citizen.

Joyce is potentially the fifth politician in recent weeks to fall foul of constitutional rules barring dual citizens from Australia’s parliament.

The laws, designed to ensure loyalty to Australia from elected representatives, have already caught out four senators since mid-July, forcing two to quit parliament.

 

Joyce’s case is by far the most significant for the Australian prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, and his rightwing Coalition government. Turnbull leads the Liberal party and Joyce leads its junior partner, the National party.

If Joyce is forced out of parliament, the Turnbull government would lose its one-seat majority in the House of Representatives. Joyce is the first lower house member and the most senior minister to face questions about his eligibility.

The matter will now go before the high court, the highest court in Australia’s judicial system, to determine whether Joyce’s New Zealand citizenship made him ineligible for office.

Section 44(i) of the Australian constitution says anyone who holds the citizenship of another country is barred from holding public office – unless they can show they have taken “reasonable steps” to renounce their second citizenship.

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/14/australias-deputy-pm-barnaby-joyce-revealed-to-be-a-new-zealander

 

seems to be a disease that is psreading in current australian politics.

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bwahahahaha what a "nationalist" holding a second citizenship :lol:

 

and endangerng the current government coalition.

 

 

Australian citizenship
Australia's deputy PM Barnaby Joyce revealed to be a New Zealander

NZ confirms that the Nationals leader is a citizen – threatening Malcolm Turnbull’s one-seat majority

 

 

 

Christopher Knaus in Sydney and Eleanor Ainge Roy in Dunedin

 

Monday 14 August 2017 09.25 BST Last modified on Monday 14 August 2017 15.45 BST

Australia’s deputy prime minister, Barnaby Joyce, may be ineligible to sit in the country’s parliament after it emerged he is a New Zealand citizen.

Joyce is potentially the fifth politician in recent weeks to fall foul of constitutional rules barring dual citizens from Australia’s parliament.

The laws, designed to ensure loyalty to Australia from elected representatives, have already caught out four senators since mid-July, forcing two to quit parliament.

 

Joyce’s case is by far the most significant for the Australian prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, and his rightwing Coalition government. Turnbull leads the Liberal party and Joyce leads its junior partner, the National party.

If Joyce is forced out of parliament, the Turnbull government would lose its one-seat majority in the House of Representatives. Joyce is the first lower house member and the most senior minister to face questions about his eligibility.

The matter will now go before the high court, the highest court in Australia’s judicial system, to determine whether Joyce’s New Zealand citizenship made him ineligible for office.

Section 44(i) of the Australian constitution says anyone who holds the citizenship of another country is barred from holding public office – unless they can show they have taken “reasonable steps” to renounce their second citizenship.

 

(...)

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/14/australias-deputy-pm-barnaby-joyce-revealed-to-be-a-new-zealander

 

seems to be a disease that is psreading in current australian politics.

 

And one reason why I am absolutely against the idea of dual citizenship.

 

It you are a dual citizen and things go pear shaped in the country in which you reside, then you can always run somewhere else.

 

If you have just one citizenship you may be inclined to stay and make things better in the state of that citizenship.

 

Loyalty is important. Western democracies ask little of their citizens. Being loyal may be one of the most important things being asked.

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And one reason why I am absolutely against the idea of dual citizenship.

 

It you are a dual citizen and things go pear shaped in the country in which you reside, then you can always run somewhere else.

 

If you have just one citizenship you may be inclined to stay and make things better in the state of that citizenship.

 

Loyalty is important. Western democracies ask little of their citizens. Being loyal may be one of the most important things being asked.

 

 

Yes of course the question of divided loyalties arises. But then there are people living in two or more countries and being citizens of them each makes it easier for them to travel and go about their bsiness for example. then there are states that will not let you leave their citizenship behind. Even your children are automatically considered citzens. e.g. turkey and Iran handle it like that. So they are citizens of several states unknowingly. There are others too. It seems NZ is one of them.

 

 

Though in this case it seems that because of his family's history with his father being from Kiwiland he himself is also considered a Kiwi by New Zealand government. And he knew nothing of it. And well, if he never went to a NZ consulate or embassy and claimed his passport nor voted in an NZ election, can he really be considered a citizen of New Zealand? But it sure makes a good headline that a nationalist is also a citizen of a different state. Well he can claim that both are under the same queen. ;)

 

 

 

I could be citizen of several states looking at my family history and not know it. :wacko:

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And one reason why I am absolutely against the idea of dual citizenship.

 

It you are a dual citizen and things go pear shaped in the country in which you reside, then you can always run somewhere else.

 

If you have just one citizenship you may be inclined to stay and make things better in the state of that citizenship.

 

Loyalty is important. Western democracies ask little of their citizens. Being loyal may be one of the most important things being asked.

 

 

Yes of course the question of divided loyalties arises. But then there are people living in two or more countries and being citizens of them each makes it easier for them to travel and go about their bsiness for example. then there are states that will not let you leave their citizenship behind. Even your children are automatically considered citzens. e.g. turkey and Iran handle it like that. So they are citizens of several states unknowingly. There are others too. It seems NZ is one of them.

 

 

Though in this case it seems that because of his family's history with his father being from Kiwiland he himself is also considered a Kiwi by New Zealand government. And he knew nothing of it. And well, if he never went to a NZ consulate or embassy and claimed his passport nor voted in an NZ election, can he really be considered a citizen of New Zealand? But it sure makes a good headline that a nationalist is also a citizen of a different state. Well he can claim that both are under the same queen. ;)

 

 

 

I could be citizen of several states looking at my family history and not know it. :wacko:

 

 

And that´s accounting for a post-Bismarck, unified Germany :D

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In Corocodile Dundee Australia, woman bite shark! ^_^

 

Woman picks up shark, throws it out of Cronulla ocean pool

 

Murray Trembath

Published: October 11 2017 - 2:12PM

A woman has been captured on film picking up a one-metre shark in a Cronulla rock pool and throwing it back into the ocean.

The video of real estate agent Melissa Hatheier was posted on the Cronulla Real Estate Facebook page on Tuesday.

"Our in-house Shark Wrangler Melissa Hatheier wrestling a shark out of Oak Park Rock Pool yesterday morning! Nice work Mel!" the post read.

Ms Hatheier's daughter Shannon, 19, a law student at the University of Sydney, filmed the encounter from the side of the pool, while her sister Lani, a year 8 student, watched on.

The film has since been shared thousands of times, but Ms Hatheier told Fairfax Media she was surprised by the attention.

"I was just trying to catch a little shark," she said.

"If it had big teeth I wouldn't have done it."

Ms Hatheier said she wasn't sure whether the shark was a Port Jackson or wobbegong.

"My Mum, who swims at Oak Park every morning, called me just after 7am on Monday and said, 'There's a shark in the rock pool,' " she said.

"I rounded up the kids and we headed to the pool.

"The water was very clear and it was easy to see the shark swimming around.

"He was only about a metre long.

"I started to swim around him and he became a bit stressed and started to knock his head on the rocks.

"I was feeling sorry for him.

"Everyone was saying, 'What do we do?'

"Mum even rang triple zero and the police came.

"I herded the shark into the shallows and then I just sort of jumped on him and put my knees on his fins.

"I then grabbed him around the neck so he couldn't swing around and bite me.

"He wasn't that heavy but his skin was very rough, like sandpaper.

"I just threw him over the edge of the pool into the water and watched him swim away."

Ms Hatheier said her son Nathan, 20, was at the pool too, but had to leave to attend TAFE while her husband Peter was on his way to work and "missed all the action".

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/animals/woman-picks-up-shark-throws-it-out-of-cronulla-ocean-pool-20171010-gyyct7.html

 

with video

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In Corocodile Dundee Australia, woman bite shark! ^_^

 

Woman picks up shark, throws it out of Cronulla ocean pool

 

Murray Trembath

Published: October 11 2017 - 2:12PM

A woman has been captured on film picking up a one-metre shark in a Cronulla rock pool and throwing it back into the ocean.

The video of real estate agent Melissa Hatheier was posted on the Cronulla Real Estate Facebook page on Tuesday.

"Our in-house Shark Wrangler Melissa Hatheier wrestling a shark out of Oak Park Rock Pool yesterday morning! Nice work Mel!" the post read.

Ms Hatheier's daughter Shannon, 19, a law student at the University of Sydney, filmed the encounter from the side of the pool, while her sister Lani, a year 8 student, watched on.

The film has since been shared thousands of times, but Ms Hatheier told Fairfax Media she was surprised by the attention.

"I was just trying to catch a little shark," she said.

"If it had big teeth I wouldn't have done it."

Ms Hatheier said she wasn't sure whether the shark was a Port Jackson or wobbegong.

"My Mum, who swims at Oak Park every morning, called me just after 7am on Monday and said, 'There's a shark in the rock pool,' " she said.

"I rounded up the kids and we headed to the pool.

"The water was very clear and it was easy to see the shark swimming around.

"He was only about a metre long.

"I started to swim around him and he became a bit stressed and started to knock his head on the rocks.

"I was feeling sorry for him.

"Everyone was saying, 'What do we do?'

"Mum even rang triple zero and the police came.

"I herded the shark into the shallows and then I just sort of jumped on him and put my knees on his fins.

"I then grabbed him around the neck so he couldn't swing around and bite me.

"He wasn't that heavy but his skin was very rough, like sandpaper.

"I just threw him over the edge of the pool into the water and watched him swim away."

Ms Hatheier said her son Nathan, 20, was at the pool too, but had to leave to attend TAFE while her husband Peter was on his way to work and "missed all the action".

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/animals/woman-picks-up-shark-throws-it-out-of-cronulla-ocean-pool-20171010-gyyct7.html

 

with video

 

 

Nothing to see here: just an Australian mum (that is mum, not 'mom') doing what needed to be done.

 

"Played strong, done good."

 

Jack Gibson

 

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Waiting for Cronulla to win a premiership is like leaving the porch lamp on for Harold Holt.

 

That guy is so quick, he can switch off the light and get into bed before the room is dark.

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In Corocodile Dundee Australia, woman bite shark! ^_^

 

Woman picks up shark, throws it out of Cronulla ocean pool

 

Murray Trembath

Published: October 11 2017 - 2:12PM

A woman has been captured on film picking up a one-metre shark in a Cronulla rock pool and throwing it back into the ocean.

The video of real estate agent Melissa Hatheier was posted on the Cronulla Real Estate Facebook page on Tuesday.

"Our in-house Shark Wrangler Melissa Hatheier wrestling a shark out of Oak Park Rock Pool yesterday morning! Nice work Mel!" the post read.

Ms Hatheier's daughter Shannon, 19, a law student at the University of Sydney, filmed the encounter from the side of the pool, while her sister Lani, a year 8 student, watched on.

The film has since been shared thousands of times, but Ms Hatheier told Fairfax Media she was surprised by the attention.

"I was just trying to catch a little shark," she said.

"If it had big teeth I wouldn't have done it."

Ms Hatheier said she wasn't sure whether the shark was a Port Jackson or wobbegong.

"My Mum, who swims at Oak Park every morning, called me just after 7am on Monday and said, 'There's a shark in the rock pool,' " she said.

"I rounded up the kids and we headed to the pool.

"The water was very clear and it was easy to see the shark swimming around.

"He was only about a metre long.

"I started to swim around him and he became a bit stressed and started to knock his head on the rocks.

"I was feeling sorry for him.

"Everyone was saying, 'What do we do?'

"Mum even rang triple zero and the police came.

"I herded the shark into the shallows and then I just sort of jumped on him and put my knees on his fins.

"I then grabbed him around the neck so he couldn't swing around and bite me.

"He wasn't that heavy but his skin was very rough, like sandpaper.

"I just threw him over the edge of the pool into the water and watched him swim away."

Ms Hatheier said her son Nathan, 20, was at the pool too, but had to leave to attend TAFE while her husband Peter was on his way to work and "missed all the action".

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/animals/woman-picks-up-shark-throws-it-out-of-cronulla-ocean-pool-20171010-gyyct7.html

 

with video

 

 

Nothing to see here: just an Australian mum (that is mum, not 'mom') doing what needed to be done.

 

"Played strong, done good."

 

Jack Gibson

 

other quotes

 

Waiting for Cronulla to win a premiership is like leaving the porch lamp on for Harold Holt.

 

That guy is so quick, he can switch off the light and get into bed before the room is dark.

 

 

By the way: Harold Hold: major Australian politician back in the 1970s: Drowned swimming at Portsea. Body never recocovered. Still, there is a 'Harold Holt Memorial Swimming Pool' dedicated to him, no, I am not kidding.

 

Further comment: Billy McMahon (father of one time actor Julian McMahon) was the Prime Minister of Australia back when.

 

Meanwhile: Billy Snedden, who succeeded Billy McMahon as leader of the party (a bit like the Republicans) supposedly died of a heart attack whilst 'on the job' with the wife of a former Australian Prime Minister (who could not easily get out from under him.....) I won't give the name of the former prime minister........

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