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You know what would save way more lives? Total ban on unhealthy foods or cigarettes, or alcohol. Let's not even talk about motor vehicles.

And yet...

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29 minutes ago, bojan said:

You know what would save way more lives? Total ban on unhealthy foods or cigarettes, or alcohol. Let's not even talk about motor vehicles.

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You forgot mandatory physical training.

 

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33 minutes ago, bojan said:

You know what would save way more lives? Total ban on unhealthy foods or cigarettes, or alcohol. Let's not even talk about motor vehicles.

And yet...

If a nation wants to improve its longevity stats, step #1 is to stop counting premature infants and those delivered by C-section as humans.

 

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8 hours ago, DougRichards said:

Mostly by people lying about where they had been before they got here, or not quarantining when they arrived as they agreed to, or lying about their vaccination status, yes, that sort of selfish uncaring unthinking behaviour.

A bit like giving a disturbed 15 year old boy a handgun for a Christmas present.

And there is also a certain amount of infection from aircrew, which is how the Delta strain arrived here in June.

 

So stop being selfish and close all your airports. You mustn't be selfish and have airplanes fling in or out. Close your ports too. 

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2 hours ago, bojan said:

You know what would save way more lives? Total ban on unhealthy foods or cigarettes, or alcohol. Let's not even talk about motor vehicles.

And yet...

And guns.

And yet...

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23 hours ago, DougRichards said:

No American actually HAS to come to Australia if they don't want our quarantine conditions.  Just the same as no Australian has to visit the USA with its insane gun 'laws'.

Two weeks in a quarantine facility?  Saves lives. 

Does it?  Agreeing to a two week stay in a concentration camp today, agreeing to board the trains tomorrow?

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2 hours ago, DKTanker said:

Does it?  Agreeing to a two week stay in a concentration camp today, agreeing to board the trains tomorrow?

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/index.html

 

Authority and Scope

CDC has the legal authority to detain any person who may have an infectious disease that is specified by Executive Order to be quarantinable. If necessary, CDC can deny ill persons with these diseases entry to the United States. CDC also can have them admitted to a hospital or confined to a home for a certain amount of time to prevent the spread of disease.

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Pretty much any country has comparable laws. Whether they're implemented at what threshold of infectiousness and lethality is the difference, and the scale on which it is done. That's largely a political choice.

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10 hours ago, DougRichards said:

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/index.html

 

Authority and Scope

CDC has the legal authority to detain any person who may have an infectious disease that is specified by Executive Order to be quarantinable.

Just because they SAY THEY DO doesn't mean they do. 

Here. Let's try this. 

 

Kitsap County Militia. 

The Kitsap County Library Militia has the authority and scope to demand that the Australian Defense Forces send any and all M47 parts it may have to the Kitsap County Library Militia with all speed. This proper and correct power is part of the scope and authority of the Kitsap County Library Militia to perform its duties of securing the libraries of Kitsap County Washington. Failure of any national to accede to these demands and requirement with all due haste will place them in a state of non-compliance and will subject them to a fine, not to exceed 50 Ware Plates per month. 

Doug, Coldsteel, you have 7 days to comply. 😁

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12 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Just because they SAY THEY DO doesn't mean they do. 

Here. Let's try this. 

 

Kitsap County Militia. 

The Kitsap County Library Militia has the authority and scope to demand that the Australian Defense Forces send any and all M47 parts it may have to the Kitsap County Library Militia with all speed. This proper and correct power is part of the scope and authority of the Kitsap County Library Militia to perform its duties of securing the libraries of Kitsap County Washington. Failure of any national to accede to these demands and requirement with all due haste will place them in a state of non-compliance and will subject them to a fine, not to exceed 50 Ware Plates per month. 

Doug, Coldsteel, you have 7 days to comply. 😁

 

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Ahh. Brian Blessed no less!

We expect your fine of 50 Ware Plates to be paid hence! And you better not send any tennis balls. 

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11 hours ago, DB said:

Then perhaps you should stick to Australian plays instead of invoking English ones that are mostly about France?

Probably because we don't have any good Australian Elizabethan plays in modern parlance. 

And hang about, is Blackadder Australian? Pretty sure it was English and funny and the reference to blessed was what I was twigging to, with the tangent to demands under pain of some witty threats all wrapped up in irony. 

11 hours ago, DB said:

And who the fuck made you the FFZ police?

Didn't think I was being that. Did Miranda Wayland appoint you as humor police? 

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“I can no longer, in good conscience, continue to be part of this descent into totalitarian ‘Rule by Law’ in this Territory. Further, the manipulation, coercion, force, and bullying tactics used in the forced standing down of good people and members of the Northern Territory Police, Fire & Emergency Service (sworn & unsworn), medical practitioners, teachers and others in the public service is simply irrational, without thought, logic or common-sense.

In any other time, the actions of our executive and government would be deemed unlawful and as an abuse of office and put simply, would result in multiple counts of unlawful dismissal.”

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What I have witnessed in the past 12-18 months and more specifically within the last few months is the fast degeneration of the Northern Territory Police Force into ‘Rule by Law’.  The use of law as a tool for political repression and enforcing it unequally on parties with a different set of rules favouring a few sections of society. This can become an instrument of oppression and can give legitimacy to the enactment of laws which may grossly violate basic human rights.  In the Northern Territory and Australia in general, and not what it should be, the ‘Rule of Law’ is whereby all laws apply equally to all citizens of the country and no one can be above the law. It also states that no one will be subject to harsh, uncivilised, or discriminatory treatment even for the sake of maintaining law and order.

 

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You misspelled 'concentration camp'. 

Note, Concentration Camps are places for concentrating a civilian population in confinement in an extra legal manner. 

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On 12/9/2021 at 12:52 AM, rmgill said:

As much as you chaps may have it confused. Australia is not the UK. This is the Australia thread not the UK thread. 

You are of course aware that Shakespere is timeless, countryless, and besides,Australia is made up of former Britons and Frenchmen whom doubtless have some cultural awareness?

Stick with Richard III, that has lots of guns (and tanks, and bombers).

 

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