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https://www.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au/wa-officer-reaction/

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This is my story…My name is Chantal, I’m a 37 year old Police Officer from Western Australia and I had a severe reaction after receiving the Pfizer vaccine.

To the people who threatened me with defamation charges and disciplinary action for telling my story, I am disappointed. I’m disappointed that your priority is to silence me for your own ego and agenda rather than ask if I’m ok and offer me any help! At no time have you asked if I’m ok or cared for a second about my health or welfare. You decided that putting me under more stress, when that stress can cause further risk to my life is your priority. It makes me question humanity and how any person can have such a lack of empathy towards another.

 

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Now, this could reach 1936 pre-SCW Spain's levels of parliamentary manipulation, especially if the balance of voting members has been altered.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-18/questions-over-mp-quilty-suspension/100547504

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An advocate for constitutional reform in Australia warns a northern Victorian MP has potentially had his political freedoms impeded, after he was suspended from parliament for refusing to show proof of vaccination. 

Liberal Democrats Member for Northern Victoria Tim Quilty will be suspended until the second sitting day of the 2022 Parliamentary year.

Victoria has become the first Australian state to require all MPs to be vaccinated against COVID-19 or be barred from parliament.

Last week, the Victorian parliament's Upper House voted to pass a bill requiring MPs and their staff to show proof of their vaccination status or be excluded from the building.

 

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1507803/brexit-news-australia-visa-rules-brits-latest-trade-deal-dan-tehan-european-union

 

Brexit deal bonanza! Australia to relax working holiday visa rules for older Brits

AUSTRALIA is set to relax its working holiday visa system and allow older British citizens to stay longer in an attempt to combat labour shortages caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

As part of a free trade agreement with the UK, the working holiday visa age limit could be raised from 30 to at least 35. The length of stay under the proposed plans would be extended from one year to at least three years.

Dan Tehan, the trade and tourism minister, promised Canberra would be "willing to do more" than the current terms in the trade deal.

He said: “If we can’t have free exchange and movement of people between ourselves [Australia and Britain], then who can we have it with?”

The post-Brexit free trade agreement is set to be finalised this week and is expected to make it easier for people to live and work in both Britain and Australia.

However, according to The Times, Mr Tehan is looking to make additional visa changes over the coming months in a bid to lure more older British workers.

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I hope some Australian approaches to incentivize vaccination stay in Australia.

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Workers who fail to comply will get a $20,000 fine if they turn up to work without a jab, while employers will cop a $100,000 penalty if they knowingly let them - making keeping on those who refuse to be immunised a huge financial risk. 

The new mandate affects about 75 per cent of WA's workforce - which means even if the state achieves very high vaccination rates, the small percentage of those unvaccinated still amounts to thousands of workers. 

Even if almost everyone is vaccinated at 99 per cent of the population, about 11,000 people would be still sacked. 

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Could easily have done though. I used to sit on a park Bench 20 feet away from where they found the Skripals. Didn't I tell you that? So it has a certain immediacy for me. Besides, you poison one Brit, you poison any of us.

I've always been open, I loathe Putin but I don't loathe Russia. Something of a distinction many of you don't seem to grasp, where you assume a national leader is the personification of a country. it's not true with Trump, not true with Scomo either. God have mercy on the French if it was true of De Gaulle. :D

 

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3 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Could easily have done though. I used to sit on a park Bench 20 feet away from where they found the Skripals. Didn't I tell you that? So it has a certain immediacy for me. Besides, you poison one Brit, you poison any of us.

So principles and ethics only matter if it's significantly proximate to your own direct well being? 

Good to know. This makes so much more clear. 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, rmgill said:

So principles and ethics only matter if it's significantly proximate to your own direct well being? 

Good to know. This makes so much more clear. 

 

 

Wait till they murder an American and we will see if you remain so indifferent. They are microwaving a state department official nearly every month, so it can't be long now.

So basically, in your world, you conflate Putin's Russia, that murders political opponents and locks up political prisoners for criticising the great leader, and Scomo's Australia, which does not. The most offensive thing Aussie ever did was best us at cricket. Oh, and export lager. 

You guys are priceless. You will be comparing the PRC with Switzerland next. 

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5 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Wait till they murder an American and we will see if you remain so indifferent.

Yes. I'll be indifferent because it doesn't affect me, oh wait, no, that's you. 

You were chastising the others above because they DID have an issue with an injustice. 

5 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

They are microwaving a state department official nearly every month, so it can't be long now.

It's ok. Slow Joe will set them straight by having his son sell them some art work. Or maybe engage them in some fisticuffs in front of some media. 

Let's remember, you wanted Slow Joe. You also wanted Labour in charge. So, I'm having a hard time figuring out how your preferred path would have yielded ANY productive effects. 

5 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

So basically, in your world, you conflate Putin's Russia, that murders political opponents and locks up political prisoners for criticising the great leader, and Scomo's Australia, which does not.

Your own country locks people up because of offensive jokes. Not so far from Putin's Russia. Australia is apparently locking people up for political dissent too. 

At this point though, the difference is that the authoritarians in the western world are making our own countries MORE like Putin's Russia. That they're not there YET is beside the point. That they're moving that direction is the point. 

Such comparisons are warranted becuse they point to a path that is decidedly NOT good. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, MiloMorai said:

LOL!!! If you want to see how democracy and rule of lie dies, take a look at Trump and his cult followers.


 

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"I think we need to put more lifeboats aboard the SS Titanic, Sir"

"Nonsense. Let us focus on the important matters. Like the colour for the hull: Coal black, Tar black, or Jet black?"

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7 hours ago, rmgill said:

Yes. I'll be indifferent because it doesn't affect me, oh wait, no, that's you. 

You were chastising the others above because they DID have an issue with an injustice. 

It's ok. Slow Joe will set them straight by having his son sell them some art work. Or maybe engage them in some fisticuffs in front of some media. 

Let's remember, you wanted Slow Joe. You also wanted Labour in charge. So, I'm having a hard time figuring out how your preferred path would have yielded ANY productive effects. 

Your own country locks people up because of offensive jokes. Not so far from Putin's Russia. Australia is apparently locking people up for political dissent too. 

At this point though, the difference is that the authoritarians in the western world are making our own countries MORE like Putin's Russia. That they're not there YET is beside the point. That they're moving that direction is the point. 

Such comparisons are warranted becuse they point to a path that is decidedly NOT good. 

 

 

You are wholly indifferent when Russia murders political opponents in the UK, in Russia, and even on one occasion in your country. Were you interested when they shot someone to death in a Berlin park? Apparently not. Navalny being poisoned? Nah, he is Russian, who cares.

. You post angrilly about anything, but when it comes to Putin and his coterie of thugs, there is complete silence, even when they attack your best ally using battlefield weapons. Or even blow up ammunition dumps in the Czech Republic. You arent even interested in China, except when they are competing with US workers. No, you have absolutely no position to lecture others on indifference.

Just pointing out Sunday is dropping on Australia, for pages actually, because its apparently an easy target and makes him feel better about himself. Get this, they are actually getting out of lockdown, and they are getting Covid down. Isnt that what Government are supposed to do? I might not like the way they have done it, but to take that and somehow pretend Australia is the 4th Reich, you guys really must be indulging in a serious substance abuse to make that connection.

You are pushing 3 quarters of a million dead, and STILL you keep preaching like you know what you doing. You are even making some of the mistakes you learned not to do 100 years ago in the Spanish flu, and refuse to learn any lessons. Are you  experts here? Have you any right to lecture Australia whom seem, finally, to be getting a grip on it?

We dont poison political opponents with WMD, we dont assassinate people in public. We dont jail political oponents. We dont beat up Gays for protesting in public. We repect the rule of law and the independence of the judicial system. All of these you still find in European countries, in Australia and New Zealand. Yes, funnily enough, even the US still mostly respects them.

None of those privilages are respected in Russia, and in truth, never have been respected. Why? Because utter shits like Putin, and im sorry to say, well meaning folk like yourself  clear a nice path for them by pretending we are all the same.We have an example, an imperfect example its true. But dont kid yourself its not streets ahead of what those poor bastards have enjoyed.

So please, dont go dragging your drumpf arguments in here, they stank like a polecat when Trump was in office, and they are no sweeter now.

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

You are wholly indifferent when Russia murders political opponents in the UK, in Russia, and even on one occasion in your country. Were you interested when they shot someone to death in a Berlin park? Apparently not. Navalny being poisoned? Nah, he is Russian, who cares.

I don't figure that we on Tank net have ANY thing we can do to stop it in the Russian Duma. However, given how many of the Grate Site are in the commonwealth countries, it bears more discussion because the Commonwealth has not historically been a hotbed of authoritarian 1984 style over bearing thought policing. That it is becoming that is what is alarming. 

FULL STOP. 

 

3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Just pointing out Sunday is dropping on Australia, for pages actually, because its apparently an easy target and makes him feel better about himself.

It's an EASY target because it should not be that way. Policing going around and checking to see if folks were at protests is NOT what you want to see in the free world. When it is, then it's a big problem. 

Why does this seem so hard for your to understand? Oh, right, you were soft pedaling the same crap when it came to the Scottish Police going round and arresting a chap for making an off colour joke on Youtube with a pug. 

 

3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Get this, they are actually getting out of lockdown, and they are getting Covid down.

They're getting covid down EVERYWHERE. IT runs it's course and then that's it. 
 

3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

You are pushing 3 quarters of a million dead, and STILL you keep preaching like you know what you doing. You are even making some of the mistakes you learned not to do 100 years ago in the Spanish flu, and refuse to learn any lessons.

Once again, you are conflating everything. The State of New York is making the same claims. They got it down. They had the highest death rates in the US. New Jersey too. What did they do right Stuart? Can you name it? They were behind the curve from the start. Now they're firing all the health care workers who worked through the panedemic. 

 

3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Are you  experts here? Have you any right to lecture Australia whom seem, finally, to be getting a grip on it?

So we can look forward to you shutting up about the US and Trump and everything else...right? RIGHT? 

 

 

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2 hours ago, rmgill said:

Once again, you are conflating everything. The State of New York is making the same claims. They got it down. They had the highest death rates in the US. New Jersey too. What did they do right Stuart? Can you name it? 

For one, they sacked Cuomo.  Not for Covid, and his replacement is worse, but still...

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