Armenia Azerbaijan Conflict

[Roman Alymov]

On 9/29/2023 at 4:39 PM, Sardaukar said:

Well, Russia was supposed to support Armenia.

What part of Armenia? Armenia itself failed to recognise NK for 30 years, so why should Russia to be more supportive of NK Armenians than Erevan Armenians are? 

[Roman Alymov]

In NK, giant hilltop cross destroyed, supposedly by AZ forces https://t.me/PatrickLancaterNewsToday/4117

[JWB]

3 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

All Empires tend to be "soft hand" when things are good, but sometimes bad times come - see the reasons of attack on Rus Embassy in Teregan in 1829.

How does that compare? Russia was not occupying Iran. Iran was not occupying Russia.

[Markus Becker]

1 hour ago, Roman Alymov said:

What part of Armenia? Armenia itself failed to recognise NK for 30 years, so why should Russia to be more supportive of NK Armenians than Erevan Armenians are? 

When you so busy destroying one Orthodox Christian nation that you can't protect another....

[Perun]

Main problem with NK Armenians was and is Nikol Pashinyan

[Roman Alymov]

4 minutes ago, Perun said:

Main problem with NK Armenians was and is Nikol Pashinyan

Nikol Pashinyan is not problem, but symptom.

[Roman Alymov]

36 minutes ago, Markus Becker said:

When you so busy destroying one Orthodox Christian nation that you can't protect another....

You mean this nation? Are you sure they want to be protected?

Now they could go back to Turkish empire....

[JWB]

13 minutes ago, Perun said:

Main problem with NK Armenians was and is Nikol Pashinyan

What is he supposed to do ?

[Roman Alymov]

1 hour ago, JWB said:

How does that compare? Russia was not occupying Iran. Iran was not occupying Russia.

Actually what is now AZ was historically part of miltiple states, including Great Armenia and Persia, that was later taken by Russian Empire. Still, as far as i remember more Azeris live in Iran than in AZ itself..... That land is very complex in terms of history and ethnic composition (see for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talysh_people )

[Perun]

13 minutes ago, JWB said:

What is he supposed to do ?

First what he should do is to stay in good relations with Russia

[Roman Alymov]

1 minute ago, Perun said:

First what he should do is to stay in good relations with Russia

It was politically impossible for him.

[JWB]

Armenia is riven.

[JWB]

Biggest problem in the region is a century of Moscow manipulations.

[Josh]

On 9/23/2023 at 2:25 PM, glenn239 said:

I can understand why Armenia might want the Americans, but what does Armenia bring to the table for the Americans, other than the usual weak damsel in distress bit?

Probably just a mechanism for annoying the Russians. Pissing in their sphere of influence, if you will.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Kazakhstan is splitting from them as well.

https://praguemonitor.com/world/29/09/2023/kazakhstan-complies-with-sanctions-against-russia/

Looked at from the Americans perspective, anything that causes Putin to believe he is losing more than he gains, is good news for Ukraine.

[bojan]

10 hours ago, JWB said:

Biggest problem in the region is a century of Moscow manipulations.

Idiotically way of thinking, same one that (on other side) blames US/UK for every world's wrong. They did influence current mess more than a little with their meddling, (just like US/UK did other), but are neither root cause of the problem nor are they a key factor preventing solution.

Edited October 2, 2023 by bojan

[JWB]

4 hours ago, bojan said:

............ every ...............

I did not write that word or anything like it.

If Armenia had the oil mob boss Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov would have employed Azeri gangsters to invade Armenia.

[Colin]

We have both a Azerbaijani and a Armenian friend here. The Azerbaijani Uncle was former KGB. But when you ask either about the situation back home, they both shake their head and sigh.  

[AttilaA]

Former “president of Karabakh” (2020-2023) Arayik Harutyunyan, who boasted about giving the order for targeting of Azerbaijani cities with ballistic missiles during 2nd Karabakh war, was detained by Azerbaijan.

https://t.me/caliber_az_official/21746

Also detained are:

- Former “president” Arkadi Ghukasyan (1994-2007)

- Former “president” Bako Sahakyan (2007-2020)

- Former “state minister” Ruben Vardanyan 

- Former “defence minister” Levon Mnatsakanyan 

- Former “foreign minister” Davit Babayan

Edited October 4, 2023 by AttilaA

[AttilaA]

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Edited October 4, 2023 by AttilaA

[sunday]

Someone looks like he is missing the Moscow Trials of the 1930s...

[JWB]

 

[Roman Alymov]

On 10/4/2023 at 8:33 PM, sunday said:

Someone looks like he is missing the Moscow Trials of the 1930s...

Actually it seems like current Armenian leadership (pro-Western NGO gang) is getting rid of their political opponents from "Karabakh clan" by handing them out to AZ, knowing for sure it will be one way trip for them and when they are gone to prizons or coffins, there will be nobody to ask awkward questions on how it happened Karabakh was surrendered to "Turks". 

[sunday]

That too.

[Wouter2]

4 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Actually it seems like current Armenian leadership (pro-Western NGO gang) is getting rid of their political opponents from "Karabakh clan" by handing them out to AZ, knowing for sure it will be one way trip for them and when they are gone to prizons or coffins, there will be nobody to ask awkward questions on how it happened Karabakh was surrendered to "Turks". 

They probably know that, given that is was the "Karabakh clan" who did the surrendering. They also lost the war from 2020, before that. Their Russian weapons failed them, and/or vice-versa...

Whereas the Su-30s of Armenia proper also failed, no wonder if those are exported without any missiles...