Armenia Azerbaijan Conflict

[seahawk]

Unlikely, they would just hold the Azeri army back. 

[Adam Peter]

On 10/9/2020 at 3:56 PM, Daan said:

More TB2 drone footage, slowly picking off vehicles of defenseless Armenian columns:

 

What these videos lack is people. No one drives away, no one runs away.

[Daan]

I agree that many videos of strikes on tanks seem rather devoid of troops. However, many drone videos actually do show Armenian personnel, such as those showing the strike on the S-300 site. There is also quite a bit of footage of strikes on foot soldiers in trenches, gathering along a road etc., but I have not posted those. In some videos, troops start to run away as soon as they detect (hear) the drone overhead.

[JasonJ]

Maybe crew survability is less when hit from an air attack or top down attack munition than if hit by a low level ATGM like TOW. Or perhaps the air munitions used by these drones make a bigger boom inside a penetrated tank than ATGM.

Edited October 11, 2020 by JasonJ

[DavidDCM]

1 hour ago, seahawk said:

Unlikely, they would just hold the Azeri army back. 

While it is not a proof that this video was filmed in Karabakh, nor that these guys are indeed Syrian mercenaries (although they do speak Arabic, not Azeri), it should be noted that the olive drab military vehicles are armoured AIL Storm Mk. 3, an Israeli-made vehicle known to be in Azerbaijan's arsenal (e.g. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Military_parade_in_Baku_on_an_Army_Day20.jpg).

[rohala]

A more extended version of the video showing Arabs fighting against the Armenians. At first I was unsure but from the comments it seems that they indeed talk about killing Armenian "pigs"

 

[bojan]

21st century bachibouzouk.

[Daan]

They really seem scum.

Azeri loitering munition taking out SA-6:

 

[Roman Alymov]

3 hours ago, bojan said:

21st century bachibouzouk.

Yes it is stunning how history books coming live again

[Adam Peter]

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Armenian 2K12 Kub Air Defence system has been destroyed by Azerbaijani loitering munition

Data transfer stopped while flying a bit high compared to other videos.

[Simon Tan]

So this will result in the occupation of Constantinople and the Bosporus with massive population transfers. Great!

[Roman Alymov]

Old Soviet school anti-nuclear lessons in action - note old Azeri gentlemen taking shelter while Arm strike on Gyanja (AZ second largest city with old Soviet AB now occupied by Turkish F-16s)  

 

[Corinthian]

19 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

Old Soviet school anti-nuclear lessons in action - note old Azeri gentlemen taking shelter while Arm strike on Gyanja (AZ second largest city with old Soviet AB now occupied by Turkish F-16s)  

 

 

High value military target right there. *slow clap*

[Ssnake]

He is being liberated, dontchaknow.

 

[seahawk]

They area needs to be ethnic cleansed anyway.

[KV7]

Tochka  strike ?

[Roman Alymov]

1 hour ago, KV7 said:

Tochka  strike ?

No, old Soviet-era Scud. Not surprising Armenians are failing to hit the airfield again and again - 30+ year old equipment and fuel, combined with lack of training provide the same results as pro-Ukrainians got with their Tochka strikes. Still, ptesence of Turks and their F-16s is no more denied by AZ side (now they are declared to be present, but not taking part in combat) - so probably we eill see more AM strikes on Turk bases.

    By the way - in early days of the conflict Turkish servicemen standing on the site of another AM strike in Gyanja was present on official photo from AZ MoD ( later this photo was removed)

[Roman Alymov]

Strfange to see smartphone mountain war video without traditional "Snackbar"

 

 

[Daan]

The remains of a Nagorno Karabach S-300 site after the radars were taken out. The TELs have already vacated the site.

Location: https://goo.gl/maps/T4YDG3XsyqwcAU6a8

The attack by Harop drone should have take place on Sep. 29th.

 

Edited October 12, 2020 by Daan

[RETAC21]

3 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Strfange to see smartphone mountain war video without traditional "Snackbar"

 

 

Armenia can into space

[Ssnake]

...well, into suborbital, FWIW.

[Wouter2]

4 hours ago, Daan said:

The remains of a Nagorno Karabach S-300 site after the radars were taken out. The TELs have already vacated the site.

Location: https://goo.gl/maps/T4YDG3XsyqwcAU6a8

The attack by Harop drone should have take place on Sep. 29th.

 

So the Azeri's - or rather, their Israeli or Turkish weaponry - did take out an S300 site (or at least significant parts of it).

The reputation of the system may be damaged by this, as is the reputation of Russian/Soviet SAMs in general. The Armenians are losing only because the drones and loitering munitions seem to be able to attack with near impunity.

The presence of Turkish F16 in Azerbeidjan, at first denied, lends credence to the Armenian claim that their lost Su-25 was shot down by one of those. I doubt it came down by itself, or that the Azeri's wouldn't take credit for it if they did it.

Does the ceasefire mean the frontline isn't moving anymore, or does fighting on the ground continue? The Armenians now need to count on the Russians to avoid being "cleansed" entirely out of Karabak, but to what extent will Putin protect an ally he is apparently dissatified with?

OTOH, if Putin allows the Azeri's and their Syrian allies to commit atrocities on Armeni civilians, his reputation may suffer in some respects.

 

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

I think Putin would regard a general worsening of his reputation as taking him closer to Stalin. I honestly dont think he gives a shit, as long as he keeps in power.

[carrierlost]

Iran shot down an Azeri suicide drone

 

 

[Daan]

Apparently, there has also been fighting in the alpine regions. Video of a journalist's visit to a Armenian position, contains footage of corpses.