120 Dead In Paris

[Mr King]

 

The basic problem of prisons. You put bad people to even worse people and expect them to become better people. Maybe only solitary confinement in the future. How else to keep them away from each other and radicalizing?

 

 

An extremly successful example is this prison in Iraq where all the insurgency and later daesh leaders have met and influenced each other and formed connections.

 

 

There is a real simple way to deal with it.

 

[Simon Tan]

Not at all...... but the French are too cheap to send them to Reunion.

[Panzermann]

France owns so many nice islands in far away places...

[JasonJ]

Hanging? Far away islands? I would have first thought the guillotine

[swerve]

Not at all...... but the French are too cheap to send them to Reunion.

Reunion? What did the locals do to deserve that? What's wrong with Kerguelen (aka the Îles de la Désolation)? More space to house them.

[rmgill]

wrong thread...

Edited June 17, 2016 by rmgill

[Marek Tucan]

Kinda surprised both that the death toll is so high... And that such attack did not happen yet before today.

 

 

Truck attacker kills dozens in Nice, driver shot dead

PARIS | BY MICHEL ROSE

At least 30 people were killed and 100 injured in the French Riviera city of Nice late on Thursday when a truck ploughed into crowds watching a fireworks display on France's Bastille Day national holiday in a criminal attack, a local official said.

The driver, who drove at high speed for over 100 meters (yards) along the famed Promenade des Anglais seafront before hitting the mass of spectators, was shot dead, sub-prefect Sebastien Humbert told France Infos radio.

Humbert described it as a clear criminal attack, although the driver was not yet identified. Residents of the Mediterranean city close to the Italian border were advised to stay indoors. There was no sign of any other attack.

Almost exactly eight months ago Islamic State militants killed 130 people in Paris. On Sunday, France had breathed a sigh of relief as the month-long Euro 2016 soccer tournament ended without a feared attack.

"Dear Nicois," local mayor Christian Estrosi tweeted, "The driver of a truck appears to have killed dozens of people. Stay at home for the time being. More news to follow."

Regional newspaper Nice Matin quoted its reporter at the scene saying there were many injured people and blood on the street. It published a photograph of a damaged, long-distance delivery truck, which it said was riddled with bullets and images of emergency services treating the injured.

Damien Allemand, the paper's correspondent, was quoted as saying: "People are running. It's panic. He rode up onto the Prom and piled into the crowd ... There are people covered in blood. There must be many injured."

Social media carried images of people lying apparently lifeless in pools of blood.

U.S. government agencies have received constant reports of Islamic State threats to attack France and those threats are regarded as current, a U.S. security official said. However, two U.S. officials said they had no information at this point about whether militants were involved in the Nice incident.

CNN said it has spoken to a witness, identified as an American pilot, who saw the truck ramming the crowd. The witness said the driver mowed people down, accelerating as he hit them. The witness said there was only one person in the truck.

Local mayor Estrosi has warned in the past of the risk of Islamist attacks in the region, following Islamic State bloodshed in Paris and Brussels over the past 18 months.

French President Francois Hollande, who was in the south of France at the time, had hours earlier said a state of emergency put in place after the Paris attacks in November would not be extended when it was due to expire on July 26.

"We can't extend the state of emergency indefinitely, it would make no sense. That would mean we're no longer a republic with the rule of law applied in all circumstances," Hollande told journalists in a traditional Bastille Day interview.

(Writing by Alastair Macdonald; Editing by James Dalgleish)

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[lucklucky]

Number goes to 73 dead now... surprised by the number but i suppose many people tripped each other...

Edited July 14, 2016 by lucklucky

[Marek Tucan]

Just saw the victim count update. Bloody hell, this is on the level of a jet fighter crashing into a crowd...

[BP]

Just saw the victim count update. Bloody hell, this is on the level of a jet fighter crashing into a crowd...

 

Nobody needs an Assault Truck.

 

As great a tragedy as this was, it would be a shame if the diversity of our truck stops became a casualty as well.

 

Pilot Strong.

[LT Ducky]

A large vehicle at speed into a tightly packed crowd has a tremendous amount of energy to dissipate.

 

On a slightly similar note - Interstate 95 runs near the convention center in Philadelphia Pennsylvania where the Democrat Nation Convention is being held. For 6 days no commercial vehicles will be allowed on I-95 near the center while the convention is in progress. I don't know all the details on re-routing but I-95 is a MAJOR highway.

 

I wonder what/if any intell the locals had to make that call?

[shep854]

A large vehicle at speed into a tightly packed crowd has a tremendous amount of energy to dissipate.

 

On a slightly similar note - Interstate 95 runs near the convention center in Philadelphia Pennsylvania where the Democrat Nation Convention is being held. For 6 days no commercial vehicles will be allowed on I-95 near the center while the convention is in progress. I don't know all the details on re-routing but I-95 is a MAJOR highway.

 

I wonder what/if any intell the locals had to make that call?

My first thought is to deter possible truck bombs. After Oklahoma City, that has to be a continual concern

[Arawa]

A large vehicle at speed into a tightly packed crowd has a tremendous amount of energy to dissipate.

 

On a slightly similar note - Interstate 95 runs near the convention center in Philadelphia Pennsylvania where the Democrat Nation Convention is being held. For 6 days no commercial vehicles will be allowed on I-95 near the center while the convention is in progress. I don't know all the details on re-routing but I-95 is a MAJOR highway.

 

I wonder what/if any intell the locals had to make that call?

True, Israel has suffered a series of "run over" attacks in the recent past. I think including an attack with a bucket loader vs pedestrians. Low tech - high concept has become a hallmark of jihadists.

[JasonJ]

I guess the sounds of fireworks reduced awareness of the truck charging in....

[crazyinsane105]

Truck ban anybody?

[Olof Larsson]

Luckily enough, the EU is at the top of the game,

by banning all semi-auto hunting rifles to stop similar activties from happening again...

[Olof Larsson]

Double-tap

Edited July 15, 2016 by Olof Larsson

[Mr King]

Welcome to the future, embrace the suck.

[rmgill]

Apparently this strip of water front is miles long. One account had this guy having driven up the route at 25kph and just not stopping.

[Simon Tan]

Plus ca change. Tragically we shall see more of this until there is a mobilization against the elements generating the terror. It will not come under Mr. Hollande but perhaps Mdm. Le Pen is the end state.

[Cinaruco]

The body count is insane for a truck. This has to be the high score, its just petrifying. This maybe the checkmate arguments against the "this could been prevented if not assault-"

[Burncycle360]

You never needed guns to cause mass casualties. Crazy finds a way, and for some reason they can't seem to legislate out extremism.

Prayers out for the victims, I hope this starts shifting the mindset of the average person because as someone said before, we're simply not serious.

Edited July 15, 2016 by Burncycle360

[Corinthian]

I hope this starts shifting the mindset of the average person because as someone said before, we're simply not serious.

 

But... but... but...

 

But to strike hard on these people would be no different from being like them. Also, it is obvious that there is simply not enough move towards diversity, thus there is a further need to allow their kind to enter so that none of them will have that sense of isolation and alienation they get from the original citizens of their host country.

 

...............

 

I still remember after the last Paris attacks all those stuff saying that war has been declared and all that. And all we got from that is much handwringing, a long debate in UK's parliament on whether to hit targets in Syria, and the occasional airstrikes by the French. Yay. Good stuff.

 

[Corinthian]

I'm sorry if my previous post was unsympathetic and politicized the tragedy. I'm just tired seeing these things happen over and over and over again and the usual script happens - people marching in unity, officials making pretty speeches and all that, on and on, and nothing substantial really happens.

 

Yes, it is sad that this happened again, to France. But there comes a point that one has to ask: when exactly are they going to do something really substantial to end this sort of nonsense.

[Cinaruco]

Just horrible...

 

 

He was coasting...