TonyE Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Damn, that was the exact same thing that popped into my mind when i watched the clip a little earlier.
Ssnake Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Sure do ... but then again, do you really want every single tradition be taken away just because "Nazi!"?They ruined so many things. I concede that there may be reason for alarm once that we start marching in formation through the streets (with torches) on a regular basis. The Zapfenstreich, it's done maybe once every other year (whenever a defence minister must resign - it's about time now, come to think of it). So, I guess you're still safe for the moment.
Mr King Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 I guess its because I am an American that the first thing I think of when I think of Germany is tits and beer
Al Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 I guess its because I am an American that the first thing I think of when I think of Germany is tits and beer I'm with you Mr. King. I need to go back to Germany sometime soon.
wendist Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Sure do ... but then again, do you really want every single tradition be taken away just because "Nazi!"?They ruined so many things. I concede that there may be reason for alarm once that we start marching in formation through the streets (with torches) on a regular basis. The Zapfenstreich, it's done maybe once every other year (whenever a defence minister must resign - it's about time now, come to think of it). So, I guess you're still safe for the moment.No I don´t and I`m aware of what a political/emotional minefield this subject is to you guys. Which is why it´s a bit surprising that these ceremonies, that can be emotionally quite powerful, has survived. The key here, I suppose, is context. If one is aware that these traditions are much older than the Nazi-movement and that the Bundeswehr is trying to establish links back to a different Germany then it becomes a lot easier to accept.
Simon Tan Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 The strange reality that is Europa today. I think Bismarck would quite approve.
wendist Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 I guess its because I am an American that the first thing I think of when I think of Germany is tits and beer German tits, beer and for that matter wine as well is all great stuff. Though the tits are off limits to me or i will need a very,very good explanation.
BansheeOne Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Well, German women and alcohol are the subject of the Deutschlandlied's second stanza after all. Which is not sung anymore, but presumably only because after ditching "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles" it would be somewhat awkward to start the national anthem with "German women, German faithfulness, German wine and German song". The Zapfenstreich is not so rare BTW, about any three-star general and civilian equivalent gets one upon retirement, including allied commanders; I've been to one for an outgoing USAFE chief. What is rare are the ones in public squares; the vast majority is literally hidden in the yard of the MoD's Berlin seat at the Bendlerblock, and only the ones for ministers and chancellors are usually televised. At the 2011 Berlin I&I some of us tried to watch one for I believe the outgoing German commander of the NATO Defense College from outside the fence, but could see very little because the adjacent streets were blocked off for security reasons. And yes, with the return of the Fritz helmet shape, there is an even more distinct, uh, historic feel to the event. Personally, I have long decided that if I should ever qualify, I will have the Star Wars Imperial March played as one of the three tunes the recipient gets to select.
Martin M Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) The " Fackelzug " http://polpix.sueddeutsche.com/polopoly_fs/1.1667137.1367918345!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/900x600/image.jpg is still around, http://polpix.sueddeutsche.com/bild/1.1306350.1355393865/900x600/proteste-deutschland.jpg and has been compilmented by the Gutmensch " Lichterkette " http://www.express.de/image/view/2015/0/14/29572038,31207230,highRes,01XBPT22_71-79194807_ori.jpg Edited August 23, 2015 by Martin M
sunday Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Well, German women and alcohol are the subject of the Deutschlandlied's second stanza after all. Which is not sung anymore, but presumably only because after ditching "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles" it would be somewhat awkward to start the national anthem with "German women, German faithfulness, German wine and German song". The Zapfenstreich is not so rare BTW, about any three-star general and civilian equivalent gets one upon retirement, including allied commanders; I've been to one for an outgoing USAFE chief. What is rare are the ones in public squares; the vast majority is literally hidden in the yard of the MoD's Berlin seat at the Bendlerblock, and only the ones for ministers and chancellors are usually televised. At the 2011 Berlin I&I some of us tried to watch one for I believe the outgoing German commander of the NATO Defense College from outside the fence, but could see very little because the adjacent streets were blocked off for security reasons. And yes, with the return of the Fritz helmet shape, there is an even more distinct, uh, historic feel to the event. Personally, I have long decided that if I should ever qualify, I will have the Star Wars Imperial March played as one of the three tunes the recipient gets to select. Yes. I remember that: the sentinels following the music, the torches shining, that socks-and-sandals SJW protesting because he could not ride his bike the usual way... Very German, all in all Edited August 23, 2015 by sunday
Rick Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Well, German women and alcohol are the subject of the Deutschlandlied's second stanza after all. Which is not sung anymore, but presumably only because after ditching "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles" it would be somewhat awkward to start the national anthem with "German women, German faithfulness, German wine and German song". The Zapfenstreich is not so rare BTW, about any three-star general and civilian equivalent gets one upon retirement, including allied commanders; I've been to one for an outgoing USAFE chief. What is rare are the ones in public squares; the vast majority is literally hidden in the yard of the MoD's Berlin seat at the Bendlerblock, and only the ones for ministers and chancellors are usually televised. At the 2011 Berlin I&I some of us tried to watch one for I believe the outgoing German commander of the NATO Defense College from outside the fence, but could see very little because the adjacent streets were blocked off for security reasons. And yes, with the return of the Fritz helmet shape, there is an even more distinct, uh, historic feel to the event. Personally, I have long decided that if I should ever qualify, I will have the Star Wars Imperial March played as one of the three tunes the recipient gets to select. Yes. I remember that: the sentinels following the music, the torches shining, that socks-and-sandals SJW protesting because he could not ride his bike the usual way... Very German, all in all "...socks-and-sandals SJW..." ?
sunday Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 That's a very German type of progressive, the kind that uses Birkenstocks with white socks.
X-Files Posted August 23, 2015 Author Posted August 23, 2015 Germany, you'll always be my Cold War Frontline.
Martin M Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Captain Jack is pretty damn good ! Don´t care much for Nena after the day; she is a Nervbolzen now. Captain Jack reminds me of this one by Mr. President don´t care abozt the big breasted girls, THIS one is HOT ! Wow !!!!!!!!!!!
Mr King Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Falco was Austrian but we wont hold that against him... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMrwcix41sY
bd1 Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) can this one be included in the Zapfenstreich -list, ja? ....this video needs fahrradtruppen Edited August 23, 2015 by bd1
BansheeOne Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Germany, you'll always be my Cold War Frontline. Well, there's Americans going German, and there's Germans going American. We have a quite diverse scene of Western clubs and self-styled Indians which I guess can be mostly explained by Karl May. Then there's German Country, which ranges from the veterans of Truck Stop via the hair-raising entry for the 2006 Eurovision Song Contest by Texas Lightning to The BossHoss, who make rather good Country-tinged Rock. Then there were Mayor's Destiny which seem to have been a one-hit wonder; I liked them. Edited August 24, 2015 by BansheeOne
Ssnake Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 ...and then there's Helge Schneider. Germany's answer to Aki Kaurismäki.
FlyingCanOpener Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 My German professor would always tell students that Austria on a map was just an ostrich laying down after it was shot.
Ivanhoe Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 As difficult as it is to forgive Germany for the Hasselhoff thing, lets give them credit for Doro;
BansheeOne Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 On that note, the German interpretation of Woodstock is to hold the world's biggest annual Heavy Metal festival in the sleepy Schleswig-Holstein village of Wacken. With, you guess it, Bundeswehr support. I saw the live coverage of Sabaton's gig at the recent event, which is worth watching on so many levels ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWeSqEaqVhs
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