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Sure do ... but then again, do you really want every single tradition be taken away just because "Nazi!"?

They ruined so many things. I concede that there may be reason for alarm once that we start marching in formation through the streets (with torches) on a regular basis. The Zapfenstreich, it's done maybe once every other year (whenever a defence minister must resign - it's about time now, come to think of it). So, I guess you're still safe for the moment.

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I guess its because I am an American that the first thing I think of when I think of Germany is tits and beer

 

 

I'm with you Mr. King. I need to go back to Germany sometime soon.

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Sure do ... but then again, do you really want every single tradition be taken away just because "Nazi!"?

They ruined so many things. I concede that there may be reason for alarm once that we start marching in formation through the streets (with torches) on a regular basis. The Zapfenstreich, it's done maybe once every other year (whenever a defence minister must resign - it's about time now, come to think of it). So, I guess you're still safe for the moment.

No I don´t and I`m aware of what a political/emotional minefield this subject is to you guys. Which is why it´s a bit surprising that these ceremonies, that can be emotionally quite powerful, has survived. The key here, I suppose, is context. If one is aware that these traditions are much older than the Nazi-movement and that the Bundeswehr is trying to establish links back to a different Germany then it becomes a lot easier to accept.

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I guess its because I am an American that the first thing I think of when I think of Germany is tits and beer

 

German tits, beer and for that matter wine as well is all great stuff. :D Though the tits are off limits to me or i will need a very,very good explanation. ^_^

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Well, German women and alcohol are the subject of the Deutschlandlied's second stanza after all. Which is not sung anymore, but presumably only because after ditching "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles" it would be somewhat awkward to start the national anthem with "German women, German faithfulness, German wine and German song". :)

 

The Zapfenstreich is not so rare BTW, about any three-star general and civilian equivalent gets one upon retirement, including allied commanders; I've been to one for an outgoing USAFE chief. What is rare are the ones in public squares; the vast majority is literally hidden in the yard of the MoD's Berlin seat at the Bendlerblock, and only the ones for ministers and chancellors are usually televised. At the 2011 Berlin I&I some of us tried to watch one for I believe the outgoing German commander of the NATO Defense College from outside the fence, but could see very little because the adjacent streets were blocked off for security reasons.

 

And yes, with the return of the Fritz helmet shape, there is an even more distinct, uh, historic feel to the event. Personally, I have long decided that if I should ever qualify, I will have the Star Wars Imperial March played as one of the three tunes the recipient gets to select. :D

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Well, German women and alcohol are the subject of the Deutschlandlied's second stanza after all. Which is not sung anymore, but presumably only because after ditching "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles" it would be somewhat awkward to start the national anthem with "German women, German faithfulness, German wine and German song". :)

 

The Zapfenstreich is not so rare BTW, about any three-star general and civilian equivalent gets one upon retirement, including allied commanders; I've been to one for an outgoing USAFE chief. What is rare are the ones in public squares; the vast majority is literally hidden in the yard of the MoD's Berlin seat at the Bendlerblock, and only the ones for ministers and chancellors are usually televised. At the 2011 Berlin I&I some of us tried to watch one for I believe the outgoing German commander of the NATO Defense College from outside the fence, but could see very little because the adjacent streets were blocked off for security reasons.

 

And yes, with the return of the Fritz helmet shape, there is an even more distinct, uh, historic feel to the event. Personally, I have long decided that if I should ever qualify, I will have the Star Wars Imperial March played as one of the three tunes the recipient gets to select. :D

 

Yes. I remember that: the sentinels following the music, the torches shining, that socks-and-sandals SJW protesting because he could not ride his bike the usual way...

 

Very German, all in all :)

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Well, German women and alcohol are the subject of the Deutschlandlied's second stanza after all. Which is not sung anymore, but presumably only because after ditching "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles" it would be somewhat awkward to start the national anthem with "German women, German faithfulness, German wine and German song". :)

 

The Zapfenstreich is not so rare BTW, about any three-star general and civilian equivalent gets one upon retirement, including allied commanders; I've been to one for an outgoing USAFE chief. What is rare are the ones in public squares; the vast majority is literally hidden in the yard of the MoD's Berlin seat at the Bendlerblock, and only the ones for ministers and chancellors are usually televised. At the 2011 Berlin I&I some of us tried to watch one for I believe the outgoing German commander of the NATO Defense College from outside the fence, but could see very little because the adjacent streets were blocked off for security reasons.

 

And yes, with the return of the Fritz helmet shape, there is an even more distinct, uh, historic feel to the event. Personally, I have long decided that if I should ever qualify, I will have the Star Wars Imperial March played as one of the three tunes the recipient gets to select. :D

 

Yes. I remember that: the sentinels following the music, the torches shining, that socks-and-sandals SJW protesting because he could not ride his bike the usual way...

 

Very German, all in all :)

 

"...socks-and-sandals SJW..." ?

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Germany, you'll always be my Cold War Frontline.

Well, there's Americans going German, and there's Germans going American. We have a quite diverse scene of Western clubs and self-styled Indians which I guess can be mostly explained by Karl May. Then there's German Country, which ranges from the veterans of Truck Stop via the hair-raising entry for the 2006 Eurovision Song Contest by Texas Lightning to The BossHoss, who make rather good Country-tinged Rock. Then there were Mayor's Destiny which seem to have been a one-hit wonder; I liked them.

 

 

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On that note, the German interpretation of Woodstock is to hold the world's biggest annual Heavy Metal festival in the sleepy Schleswig-Holstein village of Wacken. With, you guess it, Bundeswehr support.

 

 

I saw the live coverage of Sabaton's gig at the recent event, which is worth watching on so many levels ...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWeSqEaqVhs

 

 

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