BansheeOne Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 They'll probably get away with the excuse they're just "asking" white (it's a social construct, not a skin color, y'know) people to stay out for four hours a week. Otherwise, as a tax-funded public institution, they couldn't even employ the gay wedding cake defense. But you would actually have to have someone being turned away because of being the wrong color to have a case. To my knowledge, that hasn't happened. One of the first media reports about the issue was by a local net radio station founded by an AfD politician, which sorta claimed that. But if you watch the actual video on the Telegram channel of the regional chapter of the neo-Nazi NPD, they just state they're refused entry of the workshop by a sign, then proceed to discuss with various nonplussed staff about why, and under what circumstances they would be ejected, and eventually demand their money back (which they clearly paid for admission to the entire industrial museum site that provides some rooms for this exhibition). Screaming contests aside, it's definitely an interesting fundamental debate; and I think the exihibition makers should thank the critics profusely for producing PR for their obscure project, generating discussion about racism, and making white people think about how it feels to be discriminated against. 😁 To me it has also highlighted another fallacy in transplanting fashionable American terms of cultural warfare into entirely different socio-ethnic settings, as it has been pointed out that in Germany, the "Indigenious" in BIPoC would refer to ... Germans. But in the end, neither political camp seems to feel that the issue is important, or their case solid, enough to actually get their butts out from behind their keyboards. Rightwingers called for protesters to demand admission to the workshop in mass on this last Saturday. However, from what I can find of reports, there were no protesters, no counter-protesters, no BIPoCses, and probably more staff, police and journalists than overall visitors, with all-white people being interviewed and giving different opinions on the matter. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Martin Luther King, the "loony fringenut"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 2 hours ago, BansheeOne said: you would actually have to have someone being turned away because of being the wrong color to have a case ...in court. They are, however, priming the coming public debate with exercises like this. First it's made "impolite" if you ignore their "simple request", followed by social shaming. And once that it meets predictable resistance, they bring "hate speech" laws to bear. Then you also "have a case". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 If noone pushes back, certainly. But experience shows that there typically is a proportional pushback if fringe politics go too far. First from the opposite fringe, as in this case; then, if it doesn't stop there and expands to the point where the 80 percent of non-nutters become affected, by those too. We've seen that in the sea change of public opinion and gradual adoption of stricter immigration rules during the 2015/16 refugee crisis, and currently in the backlash to the ill-thought-out heating plans. Reform of the law on transsexuals hasn't generated broad criticism outside political parties yet, but has some potential if there's an impact on the sauna/changeroom/restroom issue felt by sufficient normalos. If there is no extended pushback on something, it may not be the problem some people think it is. Like trying to operate with terms of American cultural warfare in a country that has charitably maybe five percent of "Black" inhabitants, and where the "Indigenious" are white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Jones Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 5 hours ago, BansheeOne said: ...Like trying to operate with terms of American cultural warfare in a country that has charitably maybe five percent of "Black" inhabitants, and where the "Indigenious" are white. So when will the AFD start getting praised by the left for fighting for indigenous German/European rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) Seems the thread has arrived to the "some native peoples are more native than others" slogan stage. Edited September 4 by sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 30 minutes ago, Harold Jones said: So when will the AFD start getting praised by the left for fighting for indigenous German/European rights? Heh, in 2014-2017 some AfD chapters had social media posts like "The Indians could not stop immigration. Today, they live in reservations", or campaign posters saying "Sitting Bull would vote AfD". For some reason, leftists were not enthusiastic. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Looks like the Catholic Church in Germany has too much money for its own good, so strange elements are driven to intrude... https://www-vaticannews-va.translate.goog/de/kirche/news/2023-09/ausschluss-afd-kirchenaemter.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=es&_x_tr_pto=wapp Quote Stetter-Karp: No AfD supporters in lay church offices Members of the AfD should be excluded from church elective offices. This was announced by the President of the Central Committee of German Catholics (ZdK) Irme Stetter-Karp to the time and the portal "kirche-und-leben.de". The church stands for cohesion instead of division. Representatives of racist positions would not fit into a global church. Quote In contrast to groups within the AfD, debates about family policy, gender identity and the equal treatment of different sexual orientations are conducted in the church in a very transparent manner. Then, the irony: Quote However, the local committees also have to tighten up their own statutes. It must be clear that only those who are committed to the Christian view of humanity can take on an office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 On 9/1/2023 at 9:26 PM, BansheeOne said: Well there's a police statement and an investigation for attempted manslaughter by the local prosecutor's office (Einbeck is broadly in my home region). It seems clear that a boy was hurt. How much of the rest is true ... there is of course a lot of stories and complaints about Russians attacking or provoking Ukrainians and vice versa making the rounds as part of the background propaganda war, some true, some exaggerated, some made up. There are enough nutbags around here who will flip like that regardless of nationality, even without a war going on - cranky old guys shooting air guns at noisy kids, etc. - but I'm applying the same caution as to the recent story of a Ukrainian teen refugee "disfigured by 40 African immigrants" in Italy. Let's wait a couple days to see what the investigation turns up. Aha. Seems like another "I made up the story of being gang-raped by Arabs because I skipped school"-style CYA. By the latest statement of the prosecutor's office, the six casually acquainted kids were playing in the river and throwing around Ukrainian swear words, including against a guy on the bridge who to their misfortune was Russian-speaking and understood them. When one boy climbed onto the bridge via a steel beam, the man grabbed him "by the scruff of the neck", whereupon the former jumped back into the water, all four feet down. The kids allegedly came up with the story of the evil Russian to explain the boy's dirty clothes to his parents; it unraveled when a witness stated she had seen him playing with a bloody foot before the supposed incident, claimed by him to be a result of same. It then turned out the medical report at the hospital was based entirely on his story. The investigation is thus likely to be abated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 #believeallchildren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanoid Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Quote Berlin – Hamburg route paralyzed ++ Left-wing extremists publish letters of responsibilityTriple arson attack on the railway! On Friday night there was a fire on three Deutsche Bahn power lines in the Hamburg city area. ▶︎ A railway spokeswoman: “A resumption of traffic between Hamburg and Berlin will probably only be possible again during Saturday morning.” Unknown people apparently deliberately opened the cable duct on the rails and set fire. The police seized the lid of a bottle directly at one of the fire sites, which is in an area not accessible to the public. The police assume a political motive as the background for the crimes. State security has started the investigation, said police spokesman Sören Zimbal. Left-wing extremists publish letters of responsibility Meanwhile, a letter of responsibility emerged that justified the attack with the “fight against capitalism”! The confessors wrote on the left-wing extremist website “indymedia”: “On the night of September 7th, we sabotaged arteries of the capitalist infrastructure in Hamburg.” They limited themselves to sections of the route that were not used for passenger transport. Absurd: Their motive is that they want to slow down “colonial exploitation” and the destruction of the earth by hindering freight traffic. “Hamburg is a capitalist metropolis,” they continue. “If we want to abolish capitalism, why not start here, with the infrastructure that supports it?” https://www.bild.de/regional/hamburg/hamburg-aktuell/staatsschutz-ermittelt-brandanschlaege-auf-bahnstrecke-85338392.bild.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 4 minutes ago, urbanoid said: https://www.bild.de/regional/hamburg/hamburg-aktuell/staatsschutz-ermittelt-brandanschlaege-auf-bahnstrecke-85338392.bild.html I do not know in deep about DB infrastructure in the Hamburg region, but that kind of square conduit is usually employed to route signalling cables. There could be some auxiliary power for point motors, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokovi Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 World Champions in basketball now! Let us not talk about football.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 There are a couple guys at my office (one an active basketball player) who luckily have next week off, or they would probably show up drunk. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanoid Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Elections in Germany - Prophet, Trump and Marx on the ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 There is no other god but God, and Prophet is his prophet. 😁 Nordhausen is about half an hour from my hometown across the Thuringia state line. Historically most notable for former KZ site Mittelbau-Dora and its underground V2 assembly line; which has some people particularly pissed off at the prospect of getting an AfD mayor, but that's probably an effect of local conditions as much as a political sign of the times. The city used to be long SPD-ruled, more recently had a CDU mayor who quit for health reasons in 2017, succeeded by independent incumbent Buchmann who was temporarily suspended by the supervisory county authority earlier this year over charges including harrassment of his deputy Rieger. With a city hall like that, suddenly an outsider might look pretty good, despite or because being AfD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 vonTrump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 (edited) What remains of the two year old statue of Her w/o Alternative. Collapsed under it's own weight. Fitting as the entire country is collapsing from the results of her policies. Edited September 15 by Markus Becker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 German decline is superior to all others! The sense of decline in Germany is palpable (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 On 9/15/2023 at 2:50 AM, Markus Becker said: What remains of the two year old statue of Her w/o Alternative. Collapsed under it's own weight. Fitting as the entire country is collapsing from the results of her policies. I am disappointed that no Greek sailors came boiling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 These days it would be Syrians from the popular tourist destination known as Tunesia or Algeria or... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 To file under "Things that are not happening here, no sirree..." https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/lou-dobbs-jim-hoft-its-open-season-populist/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=lou-dobbs-jim-hoft-its-open-season-populist Quote Lou Dobbs and Jim Hoft: It’s Open Season on Populist Leaders in the US and Germany – The Radical Left has Even Resorted to Assassination Attempts and Public Beatings in Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sunday Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 No wonder the notion of "active, stupid" person was developed in Germany... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Swedish, but appropriate: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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